Scheduling is hard

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• LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yep, and we could solve traffic and a lot of other problems as well as making things better for workers by making WFH standard. I remember around covid I could zip downtown no problem, now the roads are fucking parking lots. I have to spend hours a week doing the most dangerous activity at my own expense. I think it’s mostly because of old fashioned thinking that jobs should suck.

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  • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s even hassle to cross the road with all these cars tbh and i almost risked life 2 times because of too much cars but whatever, capitalism must continue

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    • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The busier it is the more likely there’s this one idiota who thinks their time is worth more than yours so they forget every rule in the book and almost run people over to get somewhere “faster”.

      Faster is in quotes because YOU ARE RACING TO THE NEXT RED LIGHT PAL every car you jumped over is gonna meet you there…

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  • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    More like enjoying something is a sin. Sexual pleasure? Straight to hell. Food pleasure? Straight to hell. Get enough sleep so you don’t feel like shit? Believe it or not, straight to hell. Enjoy your work? Turbo hell.

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  • balsoft@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most jobs on the planet can’t be done with WFH, because they require doing stuff with your hands.

    The actual solution to traffic is: viable alternatives to driving, such as rapid, comfortable, accessible transit and cycling infrastructure. (once that’s done, let’s ban private cars in cities altogether, they’re the worst thing to ever happen to cities).

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• MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The company I used to work for switched to 4-day weeks during COVID and everyone was much happier, especially those with children or other caring responsibilities. Productivity was the same or better.

  But, predictably, 2021 rolled around and they forced everyone back to 5-day weeks. The justification given was ‘some’ people weren’t always taking the extra day off. No figures given, no other reasons.

  I, and everyone else, strongly suspect it was just C-suite not liking the idea of people getting the same pay for one day less.

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• WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A lot of what happens in business is performance theater, not actually being productive. It’s one of the reasons bosses like AI do much, because if gives a magnificent impression of doing lots of work, even if in some cases you have to hire more people to correct that slop afterwards.

  It’s the same for going back to the office. They want to see the worker show being performed in the building even though working from home is usually more productive.

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• LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My boss give us shit if we call off for being sick. It’s such a toxic environment and I hate it

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  • Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was the exact opposite kind of boss and got great results.

    “I don’t care why I care how often”

    At least I would get advanced notice when people weren’t afraid to call me.

    Also when I called around to fill shifts I wouldn’t guilt trip people “can you cover for bill? No? Okay thanks for answering “

    The other bosses would call me to call their employees because they would answer me. One of my favorites was calling another boss and saying “Claire’s going to come in”. “What? She told me she couldn’t make it!!!”

    “If I were you I wouldn’t mention that when she comes in. Just be happy the shift is filled”

    Respect goes both ways at work. I got more work out of my team than anybody because I had their back as much as they had mine.

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  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Literally toxic if everyone has to show up sick

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    • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I am immunocompromised and started wfh full time because everyone was coming in sick. I sacrificed advancing my career here so I wouldn’t get sick all the time. Full time wfh folks don’t get to advance and get demoted to the lowest position in the company. I was already at the lowest position so I had nothing to lose.

      Yes, I’m looking for a new job already. The market is abysmal right now, so I don’t see me getting out of this job any time soon.

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  • yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I had a disciplinary for calling in sick, the most recent time I was “nearly dying” from the flu.

    Ive got it in writing somewhere from the meeting report “I had the flu the other week and still made it in, just take 2 paracetamol and get on with it” and “the flu isnt contagious so you didnt have to worry about infecting other staff”

    Next time that piece of paper surfaces im getting it framed.

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  • Fredselfish@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The new Oklahoma Superintendent first goal was to cut off late start that students have been enjoying for fucking years. Asshole said that it was limiting their learning.

    I didn’t think anyone could be worse then Ryan Walter’s but they found a way.

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  • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Next time come into office and cough all over your boss and their desk.

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    • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wfh full time so I don’t get sick from my coworkers coming in ill. I’m immunocompromised, so if I get sick enough, I could just die. The whole company, except me, has been dealing with covid for the past two weeks. Last time I had covid, I was almost hospitalized, and that was before I was put on immunosuppressants. I could very well die from covid now

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• rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Unfortunately they turned schools into glorified daycares so they always say it “endanger” students to let them off early or get to school after parents go to work.

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Maybe sync school and work schedules? Why does this sound so crazy? It’s hugely disruptive that these schedules are different.

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    • gdog05@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A lot of GOP politicians are trying to get kids back to work and out of school, so I guess they’re technically doing their part.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      here they staggered all the school start times so parents with lots of kids can spend their entire day dropping off and picking up kids. we’d just have them walk or bike (and i’m fine biking there, there’s a bike lane), but some idiot decided to build these schools on their own little complex a mile down the highway (speed limit: 65mph/105kph)

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    • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because you can’t sync all work schedules. It would create crazy traffic, even more than it is now.

      That and a lot of jobs in the service sector would mean you can’t go shopping after work, can’t bring your car to the garage, or even get medical care at the hospital.

      Schedules should be staggered instead.

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    • yeather@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Highschools get out first in a lot of the country to allow older students to go to afterschool jobs, participate in afterschool sports, or to be home when the younger kids return home. If every student and worker was on the same schedule you would have scenarios where sports wouldn’t get out until very late and younger kids could be at home alone.

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• myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  She ain’t wrong. But think about the shareholders.

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  • Obi@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s the thing though, even for shareholders it would be better.

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    • P1k1e@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But they don’t THINK it would be better, so it won’t short term. Which is what truly matters

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• AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Millennia of evolution have shown that humans thrive when they’re just sitting around and vibing with each other. As long as you don’t need anything that requires an economic surplus or specialised work force, like, say, infrastructure.

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  • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That environment of our evolution, like the_ Garden of Eden_, no longer exists. We’ve created a new environment in which sitting around and vibing is no longer sufficient to thrive. Without the economic output we all die. See this first episode of Connections for details.

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    • greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How much work do we actually need to do to maintain our lifestyle? I’d say a lot less than we’re currently doing. Just think about all the waste that goes into Bitcoin. What about insurance, or any number of jobs. Humans create systems (or that’s what I got out of that episode of connections) but those systems are not necessarily efficient at benefiting equally.

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    • greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How much work do we actually need to do to maintain our lifestyle? I’d say a lot less than we’re currently doing. Just think about all the waste that goes into Bitcoin. What about insurance, or any number of jobs. Humans create systems (or that’s what I got out of that episode of connections) but those systems are not necessarily efficient at benefiting equally.

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    • mirshafie@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hell yeah Connections is incredible.

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• neutronbumblebee@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Definitely students need more sleep, right through to university. According to this study humans are still adolescent from 9 till 32. Scientists identify five ages of the human brain over a lifetime Want to protect human potential ? That would be a good starting point. It’s sensible even from a purely utilitarian profit focused view of study and work.

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  • NinePeedles@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Shoot, I’m definitely still a child, and I’m in my 40s!

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  • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Rich ppl only care about their own potential.

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• shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  At my last job HR announced that they had found studies showing increased productivity and employee satisfaction when people had one 3-day weekend a month. From there on we were given a choice of any Monday or Friday off, but we had to take one.

  My friend: “Yeah, that’s fucked up not paying you.”

  “It’s PTO.”

  “That’s fucked forcing you to use your PTO.”

  “It’s on top of our PTO. We get an extra 12-days a year now.”

  I’m sure someone will find a cynical take on this story.

  Lemmy: CaPitALisM!

  Gosh! I left out a really important part! That business wasn’t part of a monopoly or cartel. Well, ironically, we did have a basic monopoly, no one else did what we did, but we weren’t a subsidiary of a megacorp, if you get my drift.

  LOL, two years in a row our CEO told the board we would lose money on purpose to build our people and products. They applauded him. We fucked around and made a profit anyway. Got FAT Christmas bonuses!

  If you think that’s a one-off company, you should hear how Quik Trip stores operate. Imagine people dedicating a career to working in a convenience store. That’s another story. (And an amazing one.)

  Work hard, get experience, stack resume, move on until you land at a solid employer.

  When my two friends and I moved to NW Florida, we knew no one, had no family. One guy started at an oil change place, way below his skill set and experience. Kept quitting and moving to better jobs. Within a decade he was the top service manager for the top car dealer in the area, clocking 6 digits, treated with utmost respect, seat at the table.

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  • Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t get the take about “CaPitALism”. If your employer did what you say then they did so in spite of the system of capitalism, not thanks to it. A good employer will set their sights long-term, aiming to keep their employees happy in order to build a stable future, but that’s not what the system rewards, the system rewards short-term profits.

    Also, the last story kind of reminds me of “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”-rhetoric (the term also drives me insane because it’s literally against the laws of physics). Are there people who work hard, take steps to advance their careers and achieve success because of their efforts? Absolutely! Are there also other people who try just as hard and don’t achieve the same successes, either due to other struggles or just due to random chance? Most definitely.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      set their sights long-term, aiming to keep their employees happy in order to build a stable future

      Funny, that’s how it worked at my last job. And then there’s Quik Trip, an untold story.

      As to the working hard part, I think you’re missing the “move on” part. Gain experience, QUIT. Lemmy in general, if not you, has this victim take on employment. As an old supervisor used to say, “Fuck me? No, no, no, fuck YOU!”

      “They’re getting rich on our labor!”

      “What if I told you, you can withhold that labor?”

      If one’s job is that shitty, they can easily move on for the same pay at another shitty job. The least we can do is punish bad behavior.

      Anyway, capitalism was pretty OK when we had unions (back to the punishing bad behavior bit) and didn’t allow megacorps to monopolize every sector of the economy. Most here are probably too young to remember those days. :(

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• LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  THEY are terrified of what the masses would do if we had any free time.

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  • GladiusB@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Funny way to spell exploitation

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unironically. Watch what happens when unemployment gets over 6%. Occupy in 2008. BLM in 2014. J6 in 2021.

    Left, right, and center, shit pops off when work drops off.

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    • laranis@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t have the research ability to prove it, but I think there was absolutely causation between the closing/cancelling of sporting events during COVID and a rise in violence. At least until they completely locked down and everyone stayed inside.

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• atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My countries gouvernment has recently proposed a set of laws that would limit the maximum length of homework to 1 hour a day for 0-IV and 2 hours for V-XII
  It would also make all homework for vacations optional

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  • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That is still 2 hours a day extra work on top of going 8 hours to school.

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    • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are including transport

      A school day in my country takes between 5 to 7 hours

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  • Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Damn thats good

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    • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hope it will be actually enforced if it becomes law

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  • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In the age of AI I don’t even see how homework should even be a thing anymore.

    Or if there is homework, it needs to be tailored in a way that it can’t be fed into a machine and solved, it needs to be projects that lead to personal engagement and reports on what the experience was like, or group activities or something.

    Or tests designed in ways that you need to have understanding of the topic to pass while in class. Basically we need a LOT more teacher involvement, but I’m speaking from a country that hates our own teachers so much that I can’t blame them for sending schoolwork home and trying to be done with the day.

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    • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Project style homework would be so much better, it’s more creative and enjoyable and if you use AI it’s not like you had zero input yourself like what’d happen with a worksheet for example.

      Takes more time to plan this type of homework tho and idk how it’d work generally and it’d probs need to be done in small chunks idk wait am i dumb

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    • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People still do homework even if text generating AI could replace that

      My countries gouvernment hates teachers too

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• qwestjest78@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  When I finished school and had my Bachelors, the only thing I thought was, “Glad I am done with that bullshit.”

  I was lucky to do college debt free by going back years later and having a nest egg from years of working to pay off my costs, but so many kids go at 17 because that is what they are told to do and have debt for life from a degree that that they likely won’t use because they have never worked and don’t know where they want a career.

  Now with AI taking away white collar jobs, I think it will be harder for kids to justify. Why would they put themselves through all that stress and work for no guarantee of a career?

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There needs to be a correction in college attendance. Too many go and get a degree at an expensive school for a profession that has shitty wages or wide pay gaps, and poor upward mobility. Unless you’re going for a profession that needs a certification or degree, like engineer, finance, or doctor, a degree should require some serious thought. Also, for the vast majority of people, nobody cares where you got your degree after your first “real” job. Don’t go spend big bucks at a school “known” (read: we charge a lot) for whatever degree if you can find one cheaper that will do.

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• barkingspiders@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  advocating “hustle culture” is often virtue signalling right? “I iz very hard worker and people should appreciate me” or something?

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  • Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I can only speak for myself, but used to be like that because of poor mental health as hard physical work, and alcohol, kept me from facing my problems.

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• minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We don’t output more and aren’t as easily controlled with more free time and better schedules. Nothing I do with puritanical anything at this point. It’s just business being cruel and selfish.

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• altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  To an extent. Like the workers that are now the only members of a project’s team yeah they can’t go on vacation until that project is done unless you want delays. But learn from your mistakes. Have more people in the project to begin with. Train more than one person in key areas. Your project will happen faster with similar resources and the people involved will be happy since they can take a vacation.

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  • fishos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just so you know, this is often referred to as the “Bus Factor”, aka “how many employees would need to get hit by a bus for us to suffer a catastrophic loss of knowledge/manpower?” Way too many places have a bus factor of 1, meaning if that single employee isn’t available for whatever reason, everything around them grinds to a halt. You usually want that number to be BIG as often as possible.

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• tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because they dont want us learning

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• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The huge corporate companies don’t want the workers to do better, they want them to make the company more money.

  However, there are companies that are trying to benefit their employees, customers, and community, they just tend not to pay high wages or be on the stock market, and are usually much smaller in their areas of operation.

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