RAM is so expensive that stores are selling it at market prices

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• zebidiah@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Bitch, are you surge pricing ram? Cuz it looks like you’re surge pricing ram…

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• kurodriel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨41⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  This is crazy, not displaying the price of an item in a shelf or display is against consumer laws where I live. And if the price on display is not updated the store is required to sell by the price on display.

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• chunes@lemmy.world ⁨31⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  There should be laws capping how much of something you can sell to a single greedy person/purpose. It’s common fucking sense.

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• Vandals_handle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Lived in the Silicon Valley in the 1990’s, when the price of RAM exploded with the web, armed robberies of manufacturing plants and warehouses for RAM became a thing for a few years.

  Insert <Aw shit, here we go again . meme>

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• markz@suppo.fi ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I swear there’s a new gold rush every time I want to upgrade my pc.

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  • notabot@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It wouldn’t be quite so bad if the previous gold rush ended first, but they seem to just be stacking up.

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    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨36⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      There was a nice window from about a year or two ago to about 3 months ago where no individual components were noticably inflated. Monitors took the longest to recover since the pandemic shortages so that was arguably around the beginning of this year that they seemed to fully normalize

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    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Speak for your self - scored a nice GPU upgrade during the crypto crash, maybe something similar will be achievable after this insanity hits the brakes.

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    • bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This AI bubble needs to explode yesterday, Wall Street be damned.

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  • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is why I’m still running ddr4. Every time I think about upgrading a generation, there’s a run on some integral component.

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    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      AM4 is gonna last until the 2030s at this rate…

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    • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Did I tell you about using arch?

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    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I dki so too - just upgraded my X2600 with a shiny X5950, the nicest cpu my aging mainboard can run. with 16 cores and 64 gigs of ram i see a future when i simply replace the entire machine for daily use and make this one a very nice server.

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  • mack@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    because there’s always a gold rush for a specific thing, upgrades have slowed down considerably in the past 10 years, my laptop is 4 years old and still kicks like the first day, I still game on my 8 year old laptop which is permanently attached to the TV and running as a steam machine.

    this wasn’t even thinkable in the 00’s

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s why I started treating computers as commodities — I rarely upgrade anymore; just wait the 5 years and by an entirely new system.

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    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Same except for me it’s 10 years.

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  • Hubi@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel like the luckiest person because I built my last PC right before the crypto hype and my current one right before the AI bubble.

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So it’s your fault…

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• U7826391786239@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨53⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    That’s insane. I literally just got that same kit of memory free in a NewEgg bundle just 2 months ago! And the 32GB kits I was looking at were all priced at around $75-125 for 32GB

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  • wabasso@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Love Keepa!

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    • lyn@lemmy.zip ⁨51⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Isn’t this the new first party price chart Amazon is testing out?

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• Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  First they came for the hard drives, and I did not speak out because I didn’t need a hard drive. Then they came for the GPUs and I did not speak out because I had a pretty dope GPU. Then they came for my 8gb of ram and there was nobody left to speak out for me.

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• SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Im still running off DDR3

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• demizerone@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I have 128gb of corsair ddr5 in my closet. IM RICH!

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  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I also have 128gb of ddr5 ram

    And 64gb of ddr5 ram

    And some laptop ddr5 ram

    I’m going to wrap them all in Saran Wrap and stick them up my ass so my brain works faster

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    • Technikus5@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ah, but you see, if you wrap it in Saran wrap, they won’t be able to make contact. You’d be better off using contact grease for that easy insertion

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  • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is it sitting on top of a pile of beanie babies?

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  • RepleteLocum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If it’s new it genuinely might be worth 2k. Looked at the prices yesterday and corsair had 64gb for ~1k.

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• SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think that in the long run, the RAM shortage will turn into a glut of much faster and larger DDR5 RAM sticks. Provided if you can wait for the transition to AM6, an AM5 endgame system will have pretty good RAM.

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  • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They are going to pivot all that processing to the next snale oil scheme. Do you think its a coincidence that rhe AI hype came immediately after crypto crashed?

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    • SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I view AI to be like the printing press: It is good for the everyman…if that everyman was willing to own and make use of it. By ceding AI to oligarchs, society would be allowing the 1% to have more tools to do stuff, while denying the public from making effective use of them.

      The answer isn’t to reject AI, but to fund publicly developed and owned AI. Every minority who has 95% of Disney’s legal acumen in their pocket, will be able to more effectively resist Kavenaugh Stops in court. An AI can scour the web and spot discounted goods that a person actually wants, and create a shopping list that is cheap and convenient. People can have a competent teacher, if their rural household lacks a school. All these things lend a little extra agency to ordinary people.

      My point, is that we shouldn’t refuse tools. Instead, we should adopt them on OUR terms, not the techbro’s.

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• hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Finally set up my proxmox server, been procrastinating for a year. Thought on a whim, “I’m only using 2 of my 4 slots, and I could benefit from a bit more RAM. It’s DDR4, can’t be that expensive”.

  Yeah… It was that expensive. More expensive than when I bought the stuff originally when this computer was new.

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• moonburster@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  As someone buying load of secondhand tech, you don’t need the latest and greatest

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  • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I can never get people to understand this. I’ve got servers running on i7 8th gens, with stock 16GB ram. I could upgrade, but no need. People thinking they need 128GB to plays games are delusional.

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    • Ashiette@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      To run games, you might need at least 32Gb. 64 Gb is sufficient in most cases. Still expensive af

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  • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah but even second hand drives are stupid-priced today. No, I dont want to buy your 2014 1TB drive for 25€ + shipping.

    I can’t wait for this to pop, I mean if it does in a way that produces selloffs.

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, I dont want to buy your 2014 1TB drive for 25€ + shipping.

      well damn that’s a steal. I’d buy it.

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• BD89@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Lol pricing computer parts like they do fish in an expensive restaurant.

  What a time to be alive.

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  • SatyrSack@quokk.au ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • comador@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Thing is, this isn’t new in the slightest.

    I remember calling around to different PC stores in the 90s and early 00s to find the cheapest RAM and hard drive prices.

    Before that, I remember my grandfather, an IBM employee in the 60s-90s calling places looking for best pricing on 64k-128k SIPP memory for an ibm pizzabox 286.

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    • 3abas@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That was the norm before it was so easy to buy online from across the country, local stores set their own prices and a few minutes of calling to find the best deal is like searching on Google for a few minutes to find the best deal… But they weren’t doubling in price in a couple months, that I can recall anyway.

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    • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ll never forget the time someone in my neighborhood found out one of the local PC shops had a deal on 8MB of RAM for like 100 bucks. That’s not a typo kiddies 8 Megabytes. We were so excited, a bunch of us piled into one car and rushed over there before they sold out!

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  • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In paris there was this street “rue Montgallet” selling computer stuff like that around y2000, the prices for the most sold things were printed on a cheap paper daily or you had to ask. Guarantee? Yes, but it stops when you leave the shop, or so was the saying.

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• Dogiedog64@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If you want to see a good set of graphs on pricing over time, PC Parts Picker does some good ones. It’s absolutely INSANE how bad it’s getting. The graphs in question.

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• ulterno@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Guess I should have bought the 128GB 3600 kit earlier.
  Are DDR4 also affected?

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  • Geologist@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ddr4 is apparently out of manufacturing at a lot of places now, so it’s even more affected (at least in my market, prices rose more then ddr5)

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, just checked the 2 sites I use for computer components.
      1 had no RAM listed.
      The other had 32GB DDR4 at 2x the price and no 128GB kit (96 was the highest, 64 for DDR4)

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  • SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Speaking as someone with 128gb DDR4 3600 RAM and uses mid-size AI like GLM Air, it is too slow to have much fun with. I suspect that a lot of hobbyists will adopt and discard DDR4 in short order, so you can probably get a good deal if you buy used.

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Sadly I am not in a location where people just discard useful parts.
      If I were to try buying 2nd hand here, I would most probably end up with stuff that has some or the other kind of of damage.

      For instance, in one of the companies I worked at, their policy for getting rid of stuff was:

      1. If unneeded but working, then send to another department
      2. If malfunctioning but fixable, get it fixed
      3. If not worth fixing, then auction it off
      4. HDDs? repurpose or shred

      And the auctions occurred years later after much red tape…
      Mostly bought by other companies, who get to do more red-tape stuff to buy it.

      While on one hand, this is a good thing, reducing wastage, it also means that I have no way to get 2nd hand stuff for hobbyist usage.
      In case we do get 2nd hand stuff, it is usually through a 2nd hand dealer, who then ends up with a higher asking price than what it’s worth.

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• TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If this bubble doesn’t pop soon, I expect a memory card thefts to start making the headlines. Small and easier to carry off while being more expensive than some jewelry of the same size.

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• artyom@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Multiple stores are tired of adjusting the prices day to day, and won’t even display them. You find out how much it costs at checkout.

  Someone should tell them about those e-paper price tags…

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  • roserose56@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How else they gonna bait you to buy?

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Huh?

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• vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  RAM is not really expensive. You get enough RAM for most tasks the use of which you can understand, as a fraction of the normal amount for any machine.

  You can load a can’t stress how good planetary map into RAM wholly, without paging it.

  Many text editors today just load the whole file into RAM.

  That there’s much demand from some other side - oh yes.

  BTW, I just got a thought that this might be aimed at hurting China and East Asia in general, when the bubble pops, in the west it’ll be just investors losing what they deserve to lose, but in East Asia it’ll be actual production rebuilt for the bubble dying in pains.

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  • HereIAm@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What? You might want to proof read that. The only thing I got from your text is that text editors load an entire file into memory, which has been the case for decades unless you go with a special purpose editor.

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    • tal@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      for decades

      One data point: emacs normally loads the whole file, unless you’re using the vlf package or similar.

      teco and ed might not.

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    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The only thing I got from your text is that text editors load an entire file into memory, which has been the case for decades unless you go with a special purpose editor.

      Holy crap, and these people think they have right to talk about computers.

      You can have a 12G text file, logs, suppose, you are going to load the entire file into memory? And you think it’s normal?

      You might want to proof read that.

      I think you might want to put more effort into reading. This seems to be your weak side.

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• shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So? Don’t fucking buy it! Has that never occurred to some y’all? If the rest of the world had my purchasing habits we’d already be looking at Depression 2.0.

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  • thatonecoder@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Some peopne may need RAM, however.

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    • Hupf@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just pirate it then

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• pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s not a fucking lobster. Base pricing per unit based on whatever profit margin you need on that item.

  Nope, let’s get as much as we can at all times, like it’s silver bullion.

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  • osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No, they have to base the price on what it costs to order the next shipment, unless they want to just stop carrying ram or you expect them to take on a loan for that. The wholesale market for ram must be fucking wild for a retail store to think they have to post something like that.

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• flubba86@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is nothing new. I worked at a small computer shop in a small town between 2005-2007. The owner treated memory as a commodity. He checked national ram module prices daily. Buying low, and selling high. He sometimes adjusted the module price on a per-customer basis.

  I get that it’s much harder to do that with online stores, where prices are published to multiple places, and for chain stores where the price needs to be consistent between locations.

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• Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  (I know it’s not the point, but a reminder that data center climate impact, including heat, is nowhere near flight, agricultural waste, or construction. Hate it for its own reasons, not for fake ones.)

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  • scintilla@crust.piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hi I can explain the difference. The three other things you listed are necessary for a multitude of reasons. The current boom in data centers is for a solution in search of a problem wasting shit for no gain to humanity as a whole.

    Hope that helps :3

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    • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Growing inefficient cattle crops in a desert to preserve water rights: not necessary.

      Flying Coast to coast for a business meeting that could be an email: not necessary.

      Manufacturing those cheap scissors that break after 2 uses: should be a crime (not necessary).

      All of these subcases have comparable emissions and externalities to the data centers (at least by my fermin estimates).

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  • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, the main problems right now, seem to be electricity consumption, causing price hikes in surrounding areas.

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    • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Which feels to me like terrible policies still. Make big projects pay their costs please!

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  • Engywuck@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, but the average Lemme/Redditor is not going to waste an opportunity to pretend caring, pointing his/her finger and accumulate fake internet points.

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    • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I do feel obligated to at least expose folks to numeracy, even if they won’t listen. Hope it’s not giving them a repeated trauma somehow.

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• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  As a result there’s a capacity crunch on memory production, shooting the prices for RAM sky high, over 100 percent in the last few months alone

  They said “market price”… What market are you shopping at?!

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KXrQYWbbIs

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  • zqwzzle@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    youtube.com/shorts/UC3gEXZJKMM

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• cv_octavio@piefed.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I only use Alaska King RAM.

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Another user in the BlueSky thread showed a photo that appears to be a Best Buy case of RAM, showing a 32GB set of two DDR5 DIMMs going for over $400 USD, a 64GB kit for over $900.

  If I hit Google Shopping, which indexes a ton of retailer sites, I can find 2x16GB DDR5 DIMMs for far less than that at various retailers that haven’t jacked up prices yet.

  www.google.com/shopping?udm=28

  My first hit for “2x16gb 32gb ddr5” sorted by price is this:

  pcpartshawaii.com/…/kingston-fury-ddr5-32gb-2x16g…

  Kingston Fury DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 5600MHz CL40 RAM KF556C40BBK2-32

  $100.00

  These guys have some:

  barcodediscount.com/…/part-kcp548us8k2-32.htm

  Price: $103.06

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  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Who goes to best buy for ram? Like the physical store… Everything small is marked up anyways.

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    • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And what’s not marked up is sold out. Fuck that place.

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