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Death of beloved neighborhood cat sparks outrage against robotaxis in San Francisco

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/05/san-francisco-waymo-kitkat-cat-death

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  • Not_mikey@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Before anyone starts to think there’s a good guy in this story:

    some have taken upon themselves to honor KitKat in distinctly Silicon Valley-style ways. Zeidan (part of cats family) has released a memecoin honoring KitKat’s legacy, and also said that he was disappointed to see others launch their own imitation tokens in an attempt to profit off KitKat’s death.

    He says he’s going to use the money to support local vets, but why don’t you just share some links to spca to donate directly, you’re providing nothing but a way for you to grift by taking the money through meme coins.

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    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yes, this is the extra cherry on top that makes San Francisco look like a parody of itself here lol

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    • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Or even better: Be the “good guy” by giving your cat a happy, healthy, secure, and longer life by keeping them indoors. People hate to be told what to do, and some cats love it outside, but guess what? My dog would love to eat 10lbs of chocolate. We have to look out for their best interests. This obviously doesn’t mean don’t ever take them outside leashed or supervised, but the fact remains: indoor cats have a better, less stressful life, and didn’t decimate local bird populations…

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      • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I always ask people how they would think about my Dog coming into their garden unsupervised, shitting and pissing all over the place, digging out flowers and fighting with other Dogs. I’m sure they would be less than thrilled and yet the same is okay for cats.

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    • bcgm3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s not just a memecoin, it’s a movement!

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  • suchwin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Seen a lot of half baked arguments.

    I’ve been in the area and met this cat. First off, this cat started as a stray, and found its way to the corner store that took it in and adopted it for all intents and purposes. Its lived in the same spot for many years, and had always been an exceptionally chill cat. Painting him as a typical outdoor cat is disingenuous and uninformed.

    KitKat has been safe and sound for so long without any issues. There’s gotta be literally millions of cars that have driven past in his residency on 16th in the Mission district of SF. And the only time he gets hit is by a waymo? All these human drivers, so many of them absolute shit, and never an occurrence? This cat isn’t sprinting the neighborhood, crossing streets, or hunting for prey; its docile, loves pets, and knows there’s endless food at the liquor store that provides all his needs. He wasn’t your typical outdoor cat that runs from everyone and twitches at unknown sounds; this was an urban dwelling cat that’s been prospering for years.

    Waymo promotes and brags to riders how many cameras are inside and out of the car. But it so easily hit something that could fuck the car up if it wasn’t soft squishy flesh. Were animals and small children not in any of its test scenarios? Is it infeasble to install cameras where a typical driver couldn’t usually see?

    Not to mention the absolutely rude response waymo has had to this event. Instead of apologizing and pledging improvements and retribution to killing a valued community member; they victim-blamed the dead cat, said they didn’t do anything wrong, and said nothing of mitigating future scenarios.

    There’s more I can say about the company and its typical ownership, but I want to keep this to the slaughter at hand and their complete lack of consciousness. Waymo doesn’t care about you or anything that it kills. Once again, its about the bottom line and whatever it can do to turn profit.

    Obviously accidents happen, but its the reaction that can truly matter in those cases. They’ve shown that causing great harm in a community means nothing to them. And this is in obvious and outspoken situations. What about the less obvious ways? Whether that be job loss, economic factors, environmental concerns, or blatant safety on our streets. If they’re forced, they’ll make a bullshit apology (aka recognition of events) and then focus on moving forward without addressing people’s grief and anger.

    Fuck waymo, fuck their response especially, and fuck anyone saying this cat deserved it by being a lazy sidewalk-laying pillar of joy in the neighborhood.

    Rest in Peace KitKat. The community will always love you and remember you for always brightening our days in this endlessly threatening world. The only thing that killed you was the ruthless drive for profit. Your memory will live on in the hearts of many. And as a focal point that citizens must stop allowing corporations from plowing down their neighbors, their voice, and their sunshine in a day’s walk to the store.

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    • 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      when the LA riots happened a few months ago and they were torching waymo cars i was confused why they would do that, now im ok with thoese cars being torched. fuck waymo

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      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Waymo/Google has aligned itself with Trump and there are a lot of cameras on those cars. I suspect that was a reason back then. Now there’s more.

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    • funnyBunny@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I had a cat who went outside every day, never once got hit by a human driver until it happened.

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      • _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        nonsense, that your cat was missed by millions of drivers every day that drive down your streets, to think it would be hit by a human boggles the mind. and you don’t even seem to be broken up about the slaughter!

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      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        My neighbor has had three cats killed by cars, they even ran over their own cat in the driveway.

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    • EtherWhack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What I’ve learned working at a startup in stealth mode and having larger projects in the back lot behind the building, is that those cars also do not respect ‘no trespassing’ signs and waymo will wait until it gets to the litigious point to bother to fix their routing.

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    • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Don’t want your cat to get hit by a car keep it inside.

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      • badgermurphy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That wasn’t anyone’s cat, though. It was a denizen of the neighborhood with no owner. The point you’re trying to make has no target.

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  • MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “While our vehicle was stopped to pick up passengers, a nearby cat darted under our vehicle as it was pulling away”

    I mean, it sucks, but it could’ve happened with a human driver as well… and likely has happened.

    I have rode in a Waymo and it shows you all the things it detects on a screen… which includes humans and small animals. It’s not a perfect machine, but it probably is a better driver than a lot of people already and it’s learning every day.

    I suppose this incident could get Waymo to put cameras/sensors beneath the car… something that regular car makers won’t think about.

    But yeah, it should’ve detected the cat beforehand and waited for it to leave before driving off. Then again, the human passengers didn’t see it either.

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    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Then again, the human passengers didn’t see it either.

      The human passengers weren’t responsible for driving the vehicle, their lack of awareness is a feature of getting a taxi ride?

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      • MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I meant that the Waymo didn’t see it, neither did the passengers, so the cat could’ve been difficult to detect.

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    • Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I mean, it sucks for the cat and the neighborhood, I’m glad that where I live there are a few very friendly outdoor cats and I’ve always seen people nail the brakes to avoid them the few times they cross the road.

      I also understand that autonomous cars kind of need more work, but real drivers also really suck at driving. I wonder if the ire here is more at “who do we blame if no driver”

      Also also, I wonder if electric cars are going to cause a lot more issues for outdoor animals who to some extend get trained to listen for a Hrududu which the electric motors don’t make.

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    • ruuster13@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Under- car sensors is a great idea and the kind of innovation required for this tech to reach universal adoption. Waymo is already safer than human drivers IMO but let’s keep going until it’s significantly safer with verifiable data and capabilities humans cannot have. And we have to address its connection to big tech for “safety under fascism” purposes.

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    • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah this is the kind of thing where you really need statistics. This sticks out because it’s a prominent example of something new, an autonomous vehicle, doing something notable - killing an animal for the first time (or at least one of the very first well-publicized times on record).

      For people’s reaction to this to be that this is because it’s an autonomous vehicle is the same sort of cognitive bias that causes things like, " The first person to get a math problem wrong in class was a girl so it seems like girls are bad at math". When of course it could be that the probability of boys and girls getting problems wrong is equal, and that the girl was simply the first one to get a unlucky roll on the dice of the universe. It could even be that boys are more likely to get problems wrong, and the girl was especially unlucky. It could in fact be that girls are more likely to get problems wrong, too, but this single instance doesn’t give us enough evidence for that. It could be that boys actually have gotten more problems wrong, but we only hear about the girl getting the problem wrong due to sociological biases, or vice versa. Etc.

      I get that we shouldn’t trust corporations, and it’s not fun to defend a corporation, but it is important to defend rational thinking. And the rational way to approach this is to employ statistical methods to judge whether a vehicle being autonomous truly makes it a bigger risk to animals in the road or not. Any other line of reasoning is not right for this kind of problem.

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      • Ascense@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Not exactly the first time, given the incident a few years ago where a dog ran into the street and was struck by a Waymo. It got some publicity at the time but was forgotten relatively quickly, presumably since it was quite clear there wasn’t much any driver could have done in that situation. I expect this case will go over similarly, although maybe it will generate a bit more discussion since there are at least some imaginable ways this could have been prevented.

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  • VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yet another reason to despise AI. Animals deserve to be safe too. We’ve already taken so much from them as it is.

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    • reddifuge@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Ai has a proven track record of causing less accidents, and killing far fewer animals per km traveled than the average driver.

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      • majster@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        link from the article latimes.com/…/woman-gets-millions-after-getting-d…

        People get jail time, what do we do with machines?

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      • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        here you dropped this

        per capita

        your figures (though I doubt them) don’t include the skew of driver vs driverless vehicles. of course driverless cars are 92% less likely to have an accident involving animals. that’s because driverless cars account for less than 1% of the entire vehicle population.

        Ai doesn’t drink, get distracted, or smoke meth like the ml mods.

        but it does randomly hallucinate.

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      • magguzu@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Public transportation does this too and isn’t controlled by some company trying to make graphs go up

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      • ContriteErudite@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There are also a lot of people out there that will intentionally swerve to hit an animal. Mark Rober made a video a long time ago where 6% of drivers went out of their way to hit animals that were just chilling on the shoulder.

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Fp7flAWMA

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      • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And have a nice habit of being turned off before the accident so the AI didn’t cause the accident. Numbers are bullshit.

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      • sobchak@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I believe these cars drive on the same roads all day, whereas people are likely to be driving in and out of areas these systems are not familiar with. I suppose a good comparison would be of a taxi driver that only operates in the same area as the driverless cars, if that exists.

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    • 5gruel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      as the comment chain below highlights, autonomous driving AI is completely different from LLMs. Computer vision and control theory have made big improvements because of machine learning, do you despise this too?

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      • deathbird@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It is a bit frustrating how these different technologies are bunched under the same inaccurate moniker.

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    • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Then keep the car inside. Outdoor cats are not safe and get killed by cars animals.

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      • EtherWhack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yes, keep the car inside.

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    People who keep their kids inside but let their pets play in traffic are psychopaths.

    I know what I said.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Who told you that cat was someone’s pet?

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      • pulsewidth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The linked article, like the person claimed.

        “We send our deepest sympathies to the cat’s owner and the community who knew and loved him"

        Picture of cat shows a collar, tag, and bell. It’s a pet.

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      • Malfeasant@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The linked article…

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  • Macallan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Cat

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  • credo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    While our vehicle was stopped to pick up passengers, a nearby cat darted under our vehicle as it was pulling away,

    There are plenty of assholes who will aim for cats while driving. This, at least, can likely be remedied fleet-wide and permanently with a software fix. These people are just looking for an excuse to rail against automation— as if a human driver would have definitely seen the cat.

    Also, keep cats inside.

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    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This, at least, can likely be remedied fleet-wide and permanently with a software fix.

      You have so much misplaced faith in these massive corporations…

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      • credo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I have faith that if they keep making errors like this, people won’t give them business. I have faith that they will fix socially unacceptable issues in the name of money.

        Kindly fuck off with your misplaced judgement.

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      • Not_mikey@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        IDK they’ve been pretty on top of this. I remember earlier this year there was a story about them honking all night at there depot and they released a patch to fix it in a couple days. They are trying to get approval to drive to the airport so they’re very sensitive to public opinion and the politicians in charge of approving that.

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    • Chulk@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This, at least, can likely be remedied fleet-wide and permanently with a software fix.

      Oh? That seems like a pretty big assumption. Even if the company themselves said that a software update could fix running over a living creature, I would be skeptical.

      These people are just looking for an excuse to rail against automation

      Excuse or valid criticism from a negatively affected community? I personally don’t like the idea of driverless cars. I don’t think they are at all necessary to society. I don’t see them as inevitable infrastructure or even a good path forward. I don’t think my stance is unreasonable.

      as if a human driver would have definitely seen the cat.

      There are plenty of cats in my neighborhood and I’ve never hit one. I’d expect an automated vehicle to drive better than a human, not worse.

      You talk about people “railing against automation” but is it more productive to make reflexive excuses for its failures? The fact of the matter (IMO) is that we shouldn’t be beta test subjects for these companies and this new technology.

      Also, keep cats inside.

      This I can agree with.

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      • credo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Holy shit, its logical fallacy over and over with you.

        I didn’t make any assumptions. If they can avoid animals now (which they can, and do), they can improve that detection and/or logic for cats that have disappeared under the car and not reappeared. That’s not even an assumption, much less a “big” one.

        And you’ve never hit a cat that was hiding under your car? Are you sure? How can you prove it? Have you gotten out each time you drove away to make sure there wasn’t a cat left behind?

        And you’ve driven 93m miles, so you can compare your extensive history and record of driving with waymo’s?

        I personally don’t like the idea of driverless cars.

        And there is your bias.

        No one argues self-driving cars are “needed.” The point is, they are a significant improvement over humans when developed correctly.

        How are people this fucking stupid? Really?

        I don’t want you to answer that. I would need some rational and intelligent discussion on the subject.

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    • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I can’t wait to see your take when automation takes the largest blue collar workforce in the country and renders them as relics of a bygone era. Truckers are going to be displaced when long-haul truck shipping is fully replaced by automated vehicles. After that, they’ll be making huge trouble - rightfully so.

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      • credo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Perhaps we should force cars out so wagon makers can have their jobs back?

        Perhaps we should force out wagons and horses to bring in a new age of rickshaws?

        My take is, your take is pretty simple-minded.

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  • OldChicoAle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    So glad I live far away from the tech bros. Must be so annoying living in the bay area.

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    • MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Used to go to SF for work events.

      It felt like a town that once had culture that still wants to peek out, but it almost entirely covered with silicon valley monotony and misanthropic policies. It feels like a city where the people living there are the after thought, and the tablet where you order your coffee while you sit around a room where nobody makes eye contact or speaks to you is the product.

      I’m sure there’s a part of the city where humanity still thrives, but it should be a cultural warning to those who are adopting silicon valley cures as anything other than snake oil.

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      • Draces@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You were probably downtown for a work event. The culture is in the neighborhoods

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    • shplane@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s not, but everyone has their preferences so live where you wanna live

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    • tyranical_typhon@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’ve been to San Francisco and they live like sardines.

      It’s not as bad as LA, but they’re trying.

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  • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Human drivers have probably killed dozens of cats since this singular incident and not a peep. People are so fuckin stupid

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    • Sunflier@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Why are you limiting that just to cats? Many dogs have been hit. People too. I know they’re making a point about how human safety is prioritized over animal safety but, speaking as a human who has been hit by a car (responding officer actually had to do CPR on me while waiting for emergency services), humans are horrendous drivers and taking the responsibility of transportation out of human hands would be a good thing. People suck as drivers and getting hit really hurts ALOT!!!

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      • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Agreed. The vast majority of people have no business operating automobiles.

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    reader beware.

    1000002269

    lots of muskrats and thielologists shitting in this post.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I wish people were as outraged about people getting killed by human drivers. The safety record of these cars has been no less than stellar until now.

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    • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Im gonna be real with you. In the lords year 2025 I dont give a flying fuck about more than most people but I do care about every cat. I’d imagine this is a common sentiment.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        not every human is down with kissing the homies, but every cat i’ve met is

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    • SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The safety record of these cars has been no less than stellar until now.

      Typo?

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      • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        No.

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      • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Parent is saying self driving cars have had a stellar record up until now.

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  • dan1101@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m against robotaxis but in this particular case the taxi was stopped and the cat darted under it as it started to move. A human driver would have likely hit it too.

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    • nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      cats don’t dart under moving vehicles. i reckon the statement is partially bullshit

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      • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’ve had several times a cat has run out in the road in front of my car, and would have gone under if I hadn’t stopped quickly. Happily I’ve not hit one, few close calls though.

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      • _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        cats, the animal most notorious for being contrary and doing dangerous things often enough that they were given the mythos of having"nine lives”, never dart under quiet electric moving vehicles?

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        we had one do it once. broke the poor baby’s hips. survived tho

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    • majster@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Cats darting under a car are almost daily occurence where I live. There are numerous situations and we humans adapt quiet well.

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    • PlanterTree@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I wonder how often this scenario happens in the car AIs training data?

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  • Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Highlighting individual cases like this is a good way to capture human emotions but the focus should be on the big picture. The moment a self driving car is statistically safer than a human driver it becomes the objectively better alternative. The fact that accidents will still keep happening nevertheless isn’t a reason to revert back to human drivers.

    This same “trick” is used in charity advertisements: starving kid will capture the attention of people but a starving village will not despite the fact that it contains that same kid.

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    • tomatolung@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Good call out of the identifiable victim effect and the affect heuristic, where decisions are driven by emotional responses rather than objective analysis of risks or benefits.

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    • sleen@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I agree, it’s not a trick however. It’s a deliberate and strategic method of persuasion - a type of call-to-action; or manipulation.

      The case of autonomous driving should technically result in safer and more efficient road environment. That is the result of a fully automated system - a user will not be able to misuse or excessively degrade the machine. The same comparison can be applied to manual vs auto transmission where the advantages are quite clear.

      Such situation is attributed to the fact that most of it is exacerbated and facts are manipulated. Statistical evidence and comparison of pets killed per 100 vehicles is also missing - because emotions is all it takes for masses to listen.

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      • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You can hold someone accountable when a person runs over a child or a pet. Who is the responsible party when a waymo kills someone?

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  • snoons@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Cat’s shouldn’t be left outside in the first place, because of situations like this.

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    • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Fully agree, this not only highlights the dangers of driverless vehicles but also highlights the fact cats shouldn’t be allowed outside.

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      • snoons@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        An urban environment is far removed from anything natural, well I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make.

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  • PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m not sure I trust the kind of person who was perfectly fine with robotaxi’s until an animal was killed. Seems they don’t’ really have a good grasp on the problems of a car-centric society of which road-kill is a very minor one.

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  • blinfabian@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    TLDR: cat gets hit by AI car and dies

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  • Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Aged like milk

    https://futurism.com/advanced-transport/waymo-ceo-car-death

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  • Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.” – Exodus 21:23-24

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  • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Rest in peace kitkat

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  • Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Some of us are old enough to remember how cats and other creatures would get killed by old car engine designs with the large open fan driven by a belt. They would sleep on that fan housing and not realize the danger when the car was started. So there have been improvements that have helped, maybe not necessarily for that reason. For what it's worth, I'm on the side of minimizing cars for so many reasons, but it has been worse for animals in the past.

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Regicide.

    A feline queen reigns over my apartment complex. It’s a fair regime.

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  • sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    A car running over a cat is newsworthy?

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Unpopular opinion: cats are an invasive species and shouldn’t be subject to different regulations than dogs.

    Keep them on a leash if you care about them.

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  • Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There is probably an elevated risk of killing cats in any electric vehicle because there are fewer signs that the car is “on” and about to drive.

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Let cats use them as litter boxes. Cats’ revenge.

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  • dogslayeggs@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    How many cars driven by humans run over cats each day? Do these outraged people think robotaxis are somehow worse than human drivers? If the humans in the car didn’t see the cat, then it doesn’t matter if it was a robot or a human driving at the time.

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  • LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If you let your cat roam around outside, you don’t care about it and don’t deserve it. And if it gets killed, it’s entirely your fault.

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    People really just don’t give a shit about animals do they?

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  • plyth@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Some days go:

    Waymo’s co-CEO has made a bold assertion that society is prepared to accept a death caused by one of the company’s autonomous vehicles.

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  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If a waymo killed my cat I would slash the tires of every single one I saw

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