Submitted 5 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://gizmodo.com/fake-protest-videos-are-the-latest-ai-slop-to-go-viral-in-maga-world-2000669656
I’m convinced AI content generation was created with the sole intent of manufacturing outrage material for gullible idiots.
because the rate at which these technophobic illiterates have adopted AI, and expertly use it to generate bullshit, is too high to be otherwise plausible.
Yeah, no doubt. My mother got radicalised by Facebook over the years. It went from cute dog and cat things to “harmless” conspiracy theories (think bigfoot), culminating in fucking her with QAnon propaganda indoctrination. Last I checked up on her, there’s machine generated rubbish all over her feed. She’s beyond saving at this point. Suppose she was always primed for this kind of thing, being pro-homeopathy anti-vaccine person.
She doesn’t question the machine generated content at all, and I saw that if someone points it out, which a scarce few have done, she just justifies it with “well it could be real, this kind of thing does happen.”
At this point I don’t think it matters if this technofascism was a knowing plan, or an unfortunate series of events that by themselves seemed justifiable to the people making the decisions, but it doesn’t really matter. We’re here now. They’re not only trying, but succeeding in coercing governments and undermining democracy.
real sad that she’d throw away all her family and love, for the expense of crazy online conspiracy theories and obsession.
Manufacturing consent 3.0
It’s all about normalising boots on the ground in American towns and cities.
Well, if it spreads democracy overseas, stands to reason it will work even better locally.
AI propaganda slop aside, fucking rise up already… FFS
Pretty sure Trump will need to start the war.
can’t, watching football, eating Jack Link’s
Go away, baitin.
Muricans are all talk.
hold up. so now we don’t even have to do anything for this this to escalate?
I mean…if I’m gonna get blamed for cheating I might as well cheat, you know?
Yeah? Kinda the point. Like absolutely nothing was happening in Portland. Nothing at all. But trump sent troops anyway because Portland is such a hellhole. Now there’s protests, but they seem to be far more entertaining and mocking than anything else.
Reality is now a Who’s Line Is It Anyway. Everything isn’t real and points don’t matter.
Nothing is true
Trump supporters making shit up and constantly lying?
next you’re gonna tell me the sky is blue
Well, sometimes, it’s white, red, or black.
So we’ve achieved Barefoot In The Head sans drugs.
AI is coming along at the perfect times for these jackals, and as we got closer and closer, through deep fakes, etc., we all knew who would be the first side to abuse it for its political propaganda power. They even knew it, they could hardly wait for the tech to catch up to their nefarious requirements.
If they can’t differentiate between Ai Slop and reality, maybe we should start generating videos of ICE terrorizing Maga people.
They don’t care. They probably convince themselves its based on real antifa videos
I’m saying it again: We can’t know what’s true anymore. Whenever something happens more than a few miles away, chances are high that you know nobody who was involved there physically, so there’s no reliable way of knowing what actually happened anymore.
I think we can only make reasonable choices about things that are close enough to ourselves; not about very far-away entities.
If you record a video on your phone, is there no Metadata to help verify its validity? Gotta be something we can do about this.
I’m pretty sure that dancing frog was real. It has soul.
We really are in a post-truth society.
I don’t know. My entire life people have more or less told me the truth is stupid and worthless. Pretty sure were never were a truth society. It’s just that now we have given up the pretense and pretext that it even exists and have decided bullshit is what really makes us happy.
NOT true! MAGA are KNOWN to do Their Own Research TM and would Know if it’s AI!
I want off this ride.
‘No worries, we’ll stop at our earliest convenience. Till then, please remain calm and stop struggling so much, it’s off-putting for our other guests.’
Yet another reason they probably want to stir up violence. Not only does it tip us closer towards civil war, capturing public violence means more data to feed into AI and generate violent videos.
This has to be what trump is seeing over on Truth Social that’s got him thinking cities are burning from protests, or at least that could be what his advisors are showing
How many AI videos of them eating the dogs are there?
Expect.muxh more of this and soon enough it will be impossible to distinguish between Real and fake videos
We can fix a little with digitally.sigbed videos to at least show that a video came from a verified source but that still won’t fix the issue with leaked videos. Basically, leaked videos are over, we can’t ever trust them anymore
I think the article really makes the point that it doesn’t matter. The videos can LITERALLY have a watermark on them from the AI software, and people just dgaf. The battle is lost before it begins.
As with things like quotes and claims that could always be fake, it’s back to the old journalistic practices of verifying sources with a second source. But that means being ignorant of things that were not being investigated by journalists, which creates a different filter bubble.
it’s back to the old journalistic practices of verifying sources with a second source.
that has as a necessary pre-requirement that people are actually interested enough in an objective truth that they’re willing to pay some journalist to do the research.
is that really the case anymore? I can see it being useful in the 20th century when people were interested in new economic developments and stuff
With the way things spread on social media from user generated content it would be hard to get that done I’m sure. Like the video almost everyone saw of Charlie, the video was indeed real but the spread was so beyond control that ot broke almost every filter algorithm on social media. I can’t imagine how much “suppression” talk would be mentioned if we had digitally sign the source even though it would be totally valid. [Viral > Truth]
The troll farms are disastrous to this country.
You don’t even need to hire a “troll farm” now. You can just do it all with AI.
WELCOME TO THE WORRRLD OF TOMOORRROW!
Where truth doesn’t matter anymore.
Confederate psy ops. The civil war is back, you just don’t know it yet.
The phrase “I voted for this” has become a common thing for far-right supporters of Trump to say when something particularly brutal has happened to their political opponents.
I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it, If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you. – Lyndon B. Johnson, attributed by Bill Moyers
That last part is still accurate He had it right.
I remember as a kid growing up in a extended family just emerging from the worst kind of american poor. My fathers generation was the first to have decent living conditions but still faced hunger as children. They all could remember when they got electricity and running water. The older generation of aunts and uncles would often say things like 'We may be poor but at least were not N******s". That hasn’t changed a lot in some circular family tree’s.
I’ve met racists who love this quote, they just think that “convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man” is equivalent to “convince the a colored man he’s as good as white man” here. They really do.
Also there are plenty of people who don’t consider themselves racist, yet think their (American, British, whatever) color hierarchy exists outside of English-speaking countries and people there have to take it into account.
And the kind that “is not racist”, but if someone is racist, it’s only the way that they are on top. They can’t conceive that a Vietnamese or a Chinese racist may have a racial hierarchy where they are near chimps. When facing evidence of such being possible, they lose their mind and behave, honestly, quite racist.
5th generation warfare. It’s bots saying that (aka human slaves in large slave networks)
Some dumbass sumbitch eating this up. Unfortunately it’s like 50x that. So many dumb motherfuckers, not enough natural disasters to help the rest of us along.
Anyone acting out violently should be culled from society. Not partisan issue. I definitely lean like way left and there is much to be done without murder. Work ‘em into a frenzy. Let them eat their own. Let them have their violence upon themselves. See, I didn’t do a goddamn thing. These fuckers are gonna off themselves quicker than Howard Dean can say woooo!
What’s wild about this is that people predicted AI would be used for nefarious purposes, but generally in the form of like, showing your opponents doing crimes. But here it’s being used to show their own side doing crimes while the other side is only made to look “cringy” or more like a stereotype.
It really speaks to the utter depravity of the US right that, given a machine that can generate any video of anything they could imagine, this is what they do. These people are utterly incompatible with any kind of free or even functional society, and I really don’t know what could ever be done fix them or their culture.
If they instead made convincing AI generated videos of some imaginary leftists going first and starting a revolution, then it might not have the intended effect.
The smartest move I ever made was dropping all mainstream social media. I don’t get any of this BS. Meta, Twitter, and Reddit are a plague on society and I’ll have no part in it.
What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit if it gains the same user count? Not promoting specific users only because they have a lot of Karma?
reddit and all commercial social media make more money when they have more users, so they attract a lot of users with ragebait and clickbait.
we don’t profit if we have more users, so we don’t have an incentive to send clickbait and ragebait, and the absence of these toxins alone will probably drive up the quality a bit.
If Lemmy, or any other fediverse social network, ever got that big, you would be guaranteed there would be plenty of splinters of de-federation in the network. There would be small networks totally isolated from the mainstream cluster, and others that only federate parts of it. You could choose to hang out in some counter-cultural bubble, or choose a curated connection to the biggest networks, if you didn’t want to engage in them fully. The trick would be finding “your people,” but the tech works.
What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit
You’d need to convince every one hosting a Lemmy instance (and all possible future ones) to sell their platform for money or blackmail them into submission…
With Reddit, they only needed to convince Spez which is like convincing an alcoholic to have a free shot of his fav poison
Nothing prevents it totally. It could 100% be just as bad as Facebook. But only those servers owned by those propaganda pushers. It is harder to take over the whole and push your agenda to all users, when they can simply block your instance and let you stew in your hate. And while I do think there will always be nationalistic fuckwards, I think the big number now and in the past are only possible due to massive propaganda. If that is not possible, people steer more to “normal” stuff. Because most people are not majorally negatively affected by the status quo.
It’s not moderated the same way as Reddit
Taylor Lorenz has had some great videos on AI Slop lately.
This is actually pretty scary because they can just put their enemies in the videos to justify arresting people they don’t like
That’s a lot of work for something they can do already
Not much different than grabbing the neighbors and telling them to say a few statements as witnesses, false or true. A new spin on an old game.
A new spin with far more reach.
True I mean without due process nothing will matter
I never have to wonder what the Nazis in Germany would have done with modern technology. I wish I didn’t know.
People have always been easy to manipulate. Especially in the type of isolation from society the internet age has brought about. That’s why most city people are less right wing. Hard to villainize groups of people when you interact with them daily. Also hard to isolate into ideological containers when you interact with varied points of view contrary to your bubble.
I see people daily due to living in a city and it only makes me hate them more.
Human psychology is the same no matter the tech.
It just makes it easier.
And deadlier.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
MAGAts are typically older, so they have less technical knowledge, so they’re more likely to fall for AI slop and conspiracy theories.