Confederate psy ops. The civil war is back, you just don’t know it yet.
Fake Protest Videos Are the Latest AI Slop to Go Viral in MAGA World
Submitted 10 hours ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://gizmodo.com/fake-protest-videos-are-the-latest-ai-slop-to-go-viral-in-maga-world-2000669656
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verdi@feddit.org 12 minutes ago
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 9 hours ago
This is not slop, this is political misinformation. Call it what it is.
Slop is annoying, but it’s just AI generated spam. This is much more purposeful and insidious. The tools you used to make it are irrelevant.
rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Disinformation. Misinformation is when it’s unintentional.
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 9 hours ago
Right, that’s more accurate.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
As much as I hate to use this term because of the most prominent person associated with it:
This literally is an infowar, this is an actual psyop.
Targetted and fairly convincing mis and disinformation deployed at exactly the moment it would generate the most chaos and distrust in your own ability to evaluate reality?
Yeah. Yeah.
Thats a psyop, that is what an actual psyop is.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
It’s both. Slop can be meaningless drivel or deliberate misinformation.
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
What’s wild about this is that people predicted AI would be used for nefarious purposes, but generally in the form of like, showing your opponents doing crimes. But here it’s being used to show their own side doing crimes while the other side is only made to look “cringy” or more like a stereotype.
It really speaks to the utter depravity of the US right that, given a machine that can generate any video of anything they could imagine, this is what they do. These people are utterly incompatible with any kind of free or even functional society, and I really don’t know what could ever be done fix them or their culture.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip 50 minutes ago
Some dumbass sumbitch eating this up. Unfortunately it’s like 50x that. So many dumb motherfuckers, not enough natural disasters to help the rest of us along.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Anyone acting out violently should be culled from society. Not partisan issue. I definitely lean like way left and there is much to be done without murder. Work ‘em into a frenzy. Let them eat their own. Let them have their violence upon themselves. See, I didn’t do a goddamn thing. These fuckers are gonna off themselves quicker than Howard Dean can say woooo!
Empricorn@feddit.nl 9 hours ago
Republicans want to hate so badly, they’ll literally create fiction to manifest it and be the victims…
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 20 minutes ago
plus thats why they fall for scams very easily.
Eldritch@piefed.world 9 hours ago
Always have. Most of them have never met the people they've been taught to hate. Or believe for some reason that the few they know are some sort of exception. The token "good ones".
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 hours ago
Right they hate these straw people. I mean, I;m not going to say my own cognitive projection of “conservative” is 100% accurate, but at least my nightmare scenarios are about actual bad things happening, and not like conservative nightmares of genetically inferior people getting to enjoy the gifts of civilization.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 hours ago
If right wing people were smart they wouldn’t be right wing. Of course they’re going to believe and share AI slop video. They’re emotional driven fools.
Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 4 hours ago
The smartest move I ever made was dropping all mainstream social media. I don’t get any of this BS. Meta, Twitter, and Reddit are a plague on society and I’ll have no part in it.
Scolding7300@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit if it gains the same user count? Not promoting specific users only because they have a lot of Karma?
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
It’s not moderated the same way as Reddit
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
I never have to wonder what the Nazis in Germany would have done with modern technology. I wish I didn’t know.
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
People have always been easy to manipulate. Especially in the type of isolation from society the internet age has brought about. That’s why most city people are less right wing. Hard to villainize groups of people when you interact with them daily. Also hard to isolate into ideological containers when you interact with varied points of view contrary to your bubble.
masterofn001@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
Human psychology is the same no matter the tech.
It just makes it easier.
And deadlier.
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 7 hours ago
Even if the images were real, I see a woman using her first amendment right to speech and assembly being assaulted by someone who has sworn to uphold the constitution.
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
That’s the point. The right gets off on their enemies suffering. It’s insane considering the type of freedom trampling they claimed of the left wanted for decades is now celebrated when it’s actually happening.
Wilco@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
Its not fake if MAGA believes it … that puts it into psyops territory.
Not real, but not exactly “fake”.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
This is actually pretty scary because they can just put their enemies in the videos to justify arresting people they don’t like
unphazed@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Not much different than grabbing the neighbors and telling them to say a few statements as witnesses, false or true. A new spin on an old game.
shalafi@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
A new spin with far more reach.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
True I mean without due process nothing will matter
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Lenin dreamt of this kind of propaganda power.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Ok, so why do they utilize these tools and the left cries about it.
I’ve said this for a while. The hate of AI on lemmy was encouraged by Astro turfing methods. This way leftist who usually are at the cutting edge of things instead knee cap themselves on a technology that acts as a force multiplayer. They will use this and advance. We will bitch and moan. The end result will be that they gain more and we don’t. So you can be upset and you can cry and hate this or me for pointing this out. That will never change the outcome. Your feelings don’t matter. What matters is outcomes right now. It matters what will get people to vote when it’s time. if you concede tools that help you reach eyes and ears of voters, be ready for consequences.
latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
Yeah, this person’s right! We should start making inflammatory AI videos, too! Dump that whole tanker ship in the fire, fuck it!
No. I am sorry, but no. The hate on Lemmy is not against AI as a technology, it is against how it is being used, how it is being peddled, how it is being shoved down everyone’s throats, and how much damage it’s doing to our environment.
And, to your point about feelings not mattering, from what I’ve seen, most people (including myself) are exhausted! We are sureounded by people losing their shit left and right, bigotry, racism, hate in general are mainstream, Fascism is out, about, and in power, and it looks like we’re all forgetting that the planet is literally burning up again.
We are tired. Most of us have already been through enough shit as it is, we would want nothing more than to see the end of this string of “once in a lifetime” disasters, yet we understand that the easy way out means we’ll end up becoming exactly what’s ruining our lives right now. This isn’t just about winning, HOW we win is equally important, if not more so. Because that will set the tone for what would follow.
Makeitstop@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Not to mention that the bullshit in AI videos made by the left would absolutely get called out in every propaganda outfit on the right. It would just give them more ammo (without the usual lies).
But even more important, it will grant legitimacy to everyone who responds to damning video evidence by claiming it was AI. We don’t need to make shit up, the reality is already horrifying. All AI will do is make it harder for people to believe their own eyes.
Xaphanos@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Enslaved with honor is still enslaved.
NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
We gain by generating counter-slop? Wtf are you on about.
Anybody with a half a braincell can see the detrimental impact AI is having on social media & internet content generally. It’s not astro turfing, it’s just constantly dealing with generated nonsense that’s causing the hate.
People who are more susceptible to manipulation, which unfortunately seems to be right-leaning folks, seem to fall victim into believing & spreading it the most. They rarely do any form of fact checking.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Everybody is susceptible to manipulation. Are you crazy. Who do you think you are. It’s basic shit here. You need to push a singular message through repetition and people adopt it every time. The left are so ignorant to basics which is why everybody and their grandma knows about cat litter boxes rather than the arguments against it. This era of leftist are absolutely outclassed by a mile.
natecox@programming.dev 10 hours ago
Oh fuck off. Nobody is “astroturfing” AI hate.
Plenty of us hate AI for perfectly reasonable ethical, sociological, and accuracy reasons.
Just because some anti-ethical twats are doing something with AI impactfully doesn’t justify the use of disinformation on our side.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
They 100% are. There’s no doubt
veeesix@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
I think it’s pretty obvious why people would be upset about a propaganda machine being used by a government to demonize its political enemies and voting base? The Iraq War started over less false pretenses, and look how that rolled out. The damage produced by this lying machine will be unimaginable.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Cool, it’s super important to be aware how getting punched will affect you while getting punched. Just don’t punch back because that isn’t what we’re about. In the end we win somehow. Maybe they’ll break their first on our head I dunno.
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
They utilize these tools because they have no morals. They are willing to lie and cheat their way into whatever they want.
The left does not have that advantage. We don’t want to lie, we don’t want to cheat, we want the liars and cheaters to be removed from power. Lying harder isn’t going to work for us because unlike the right, we will call out our own for it.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Yea sure the left are morally superior obviously. Not weak and ineffective. Morally superior
simplejack@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Lemmy’s daily active user numbers are not big enough to be a worthwhile astroturfing target.
The real reason people shit on AI here is because it’s a platform with a bias toward people who are fairly tech savvy and or work in a technology field. Which is why every 3rd technology post here is a Linux circle jerk.
A lot of users here understand the technologies and are working in spaces where they’re being asking to “implement AI” by idiots who don’t understand the tech and aren’t trying to solve a user problem.
otacon239@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I have seen this recently pretty often that people seem to believe Lemmy is an equal representation of the real world. It’s probably one of the more niche media platforms, though. I come here because I enjoy every third Linux post. I also know that I have to go out of my way to find someone who has even heard of Steam, let alone a Steam Deck.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
It 100% is perfect for astroturf. It’s the perfect size for it. Large population need more money and effort to afford astroturf. Lemmy is the right amount then you let the Lemmy users generate more content for you
Eldritch@piefed.world 9 hours ago
Nah, it wasn't astroturfed. Current gen AI is little more than automated theft ATM. A lot of artists had their work stolen with no compensation. And now have an even tougher time ahead, competing with the thieves than they already had before. A lot of the angst and hate has been knee-jerk and lacking nuance. Doing as much to alienate people from their cause as bring them to it. But it's real.
What's equally absurd however. Are those that naively think we could use AI against those already using it. They're building farms that consume more power than major cities. With more compute than even large groups of average individuals will ever be able to muster. It doesn't matter how much of a force multiplier it is. 10x return on a force of 10,000,000 is exponentially more return than a 500x increase on a force of 100.
Ai may just be a tool, but it's not going to turn the tide in favor of the left.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Yea of course, that’s what all the headlines were shared kept trying us everyday multiple times a day. They told us they would take our jobs, they’d assault our women and children, they threatened our way of life. Familiar
Jerb322@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
synae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 hours ago
Maybe I’ll regret asking, but what could “haiku-level brilliant” even mean?
kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 5 hours ago
Typical MAGA astonishment at 17 syllables.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 7 hours ago
He’s been a right-wing asshole for a long time, unfortunately.
CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 hours ago
Fake videos and fake comments pushing us to the edge
tesadactyl@lemmy.org 6 hours ago
Taylor Lorenz has had some great videos on AI Slop lately.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I feel like AI generated videos of very active things like protests would be easy to debunk. Just look at the people in the background and point out the people disappearing after moving behind another person, or look for changing faces.
shalafi@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Doesn’t matter how easy it is to debunk. I assume you were around for COVID and Trump’s first term?
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 7 hours ago
You haven’t seen a lot of Sora 2 videos. Identifiable traits require a pretty careful eye in many videos to spot.
You absolutely can’t even rely on the watermark, since removing that watermark is trivial to the nation-states running disinfo campaigns, and even for end users removal is trivial compared to creating typical public AI video models.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 minutes ago
The phrase “I voted for this” has become a common thing for far-right supporters of Trump to say when something particularly brutal has happened to their political opponents.
I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it, If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you. – Lyndon B. Johnson, attributed by Bill Moyers