Republicans want to hate so badly, they’ll literally create fiction to manifest it and be the victims…
Fake Protest Videos Are the Latest AI Slop to Go Viral in MAGA World
Submitted 2 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://gizmodo.com/fake-protest-videos-are-the-latest-ai-slop-to-go-viral-in-maga-world-2000669656
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Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Eldritch@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Always have. Most of them have never met the people they've been taught to hate. Or believe for some reason that the few they know are some sort of exception. The token "good ones".
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Right they hate these straw people. I mean, I;m not going to say my own cognitive projection of “conservative” is 100% accurate, but at least my nightmare scenarios are about actual bad things happening, and not like conservative nightmares of genetically inferior people getting to enjoy the gifts of civilization.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
plus thats why they fall for scams very easily.
Objection@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
What’s wild about this is that people predicted AI would be used for nefarious purposes, but generally in the form of like, showing your opponents doing crimes. But here it’s being used to show their own side doing crimes while the other side is only made to look “cringy” or more like a stereotype.
It really speaks to the utter depravity of the US right that, given a machine that can generate any video of anything they could imagine, this is what they do. These people are utterly incompatible with any kind of free or even functional society, and I really don’t know what could ever be done fix them or their culture.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
If they instead made convincing AI generated videos of some imaginary leftists going first and starting a revolution, then it might not have the intended effect.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The phrase “I voted for this” has become a common thing for far-right supporters of Trump to say when something particularly brutal has happened to their political opponents.
I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it, If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you. – Lyndon B. Johnson, attributed by Bill Moyers
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That last part is still accurate He had it right.
I remember as a kid growing up in a extended family just emerging from the worst kind of american poor. My fathers generation was the first to have decent living conditions but still faced hunger as children. They all could remember when they got electricity and running water. The older generation of aunts and uncles would often say things like 'We may be poor but at least were not N******s". That hasn’t changed a lot in some circular family tree’s.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
I’ve met racists who love this quote, they just think that “convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man” is equivalent to “convince the a colored man he’s as good as white man” here. They really do.
Also there are plenty of people who don’t consider themselves racist, yet think their (American, British, whatever) color hierarchy exists outside of English-speaking countries and people there have to take it into account.
And the kind that “is not racist”, but if someone is racist, it’s only the way that they are on top. They can’t conceive that a Vietnamese or a Chinese racist may have a racial hierarchy where they are near chimps. When facing evidence of such being possible, they lose their mind and behave, honestly, quite racist.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
5th generation warfare. It’s bots saying that (aka human slaves in large slave networks)
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 weeks ago
If right wing people were smart they wouldn’t be right wing. Of course they’re going to believe and share AI slop video. They’re emotional driven fools.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 weeks ago
Don’t tell me that 🇺🇸Steve2A🇺🇸god🇺🇸penises🇺🇸 Is a bad person. I just can’t believe it.
Bongles@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
If he’s even real.
Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
The smartest move I ever made was dropping all mainstream social media. I don’t get any of this BS. Meta, Twitter, and Reddit are a plague on society and I’ll have no part in it.
Scolding7300@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit if it gains the same user count? Not promoting specific users only because they have a lot of Karma?
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Nothing prevents it totally. It could 100% be just as bad as Facebook. But only those servers owned by those propaganda pushers. It is harder to take over the whole and push your agenda to all users, when they can simply block your instance and let you stew in your hate. And while I do think there will always be nationalistic fuckwards, I think the big number now and in the past are only possible due to massive propaganda. If that is not possible, people steer more to “normal” stuff. Because most people are not majorally negatively affected by the status quo.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit
You’d need to convince every one hosting a Lemmy instance (and all possible future ones) to sell their platform for money or blackmail them into submission…
With Reddit, they only needed to convince Spez which is like convincing an alcoholic to have a free shot of his fav poison
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
If Lemmy, or any other fediverse social network, ever got that big, you would be guaranteed there would be plenty of splinters of de-federation in the network. There would be small networks totally isolated from the mainstream cluster, and others that only federate parts of it. You could choose to hang out in some counter-cultural bubble, or choose a curated connection to the biggest networks, if you didn’t want to engage in them fully. The trick would be finding “your people,” but the tech works.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
reddit and all commercial social media make more money when they have more users, so they attract a lot of users with ragebait and clickbait.
we don’t profit if we have more users, so we don’t have an incentive to send clickbait and ragebait, and the absence of these toxins alone will probably drive up the quality a bit.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s not moderated the same way as Reddit
SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If they can’t differentiate between Ai Slop and reality, maybe we should start generating videos of ICE terrorizing Maga people.
_core@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
They don’t care. They probably convince themselves its based on real antifa videos
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I never have to wonder what the Nazis in Germany would have done with modern technology. I wish I didn’t know.
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People have always been easy to manipulate. Especially in the type of isolation from society the internet age has brought about. That’s why most city people are less right wing. Hard to villainize groups of people when you interact with them daily. Also hard to isolate into ideological containers when you interact with varied points of view contrary to your bubble.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I see people daily due to living in a city and it only makes me hate them more.
masterofn001@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Human psychology is the same no matter the tech.
It just makes it easier.
And deadlier.
Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This has to be what trump is seeing over on Truth Social that’s got him thinking cities are burning from protests, or at least that could be what his advisors are showing
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
How many AI videos of them eating the dogs are there?
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Bongles@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I want off this ride.
Tlf@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
‘No worries, we’ll stop at our earliest convenience. Till then, please remain calm and stop struggling so much, it’s off-putting for our other guests.’
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Expect.muxh more of this and soon enough it will be impossible to distinguish between Real and fake videos
We can fix a little with digitally.sigbed videos to at least show that a video came from a verified source but that still won’t fix the issue with leaked videos. Basically, leaked videos are over, we can’t ever trust them anymore
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I think the article really makes the point that it doesn’t matter. The videos can LITERALLY have a watermark on them from the AI software, and people just dgaf. The battle is lost before it begins.
As with things like quotes and claims that could always be fake, it’s back to the old journalistic practices of verifying sources with a second source. But that means being ignorant of things that were not being investigated by journalists, which creates a different filter bubble.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
it’s back to the old journalistic practices of verifying sources with a second source.
that has as a necessary pre-requirement that people are actually interested enough in an objective truth that they’re willing to pay some journalist to do the research.
is that really the case anymore? I can see it being useful in the 20th century when people were interested in new economic developments and stuff
Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
With the way things spread on social media from user generated content it would be hard to get that done I’m sure. Like the video almost everyone saw of Charlie, the video was indeed real but the spread was so beyond control that ot broke almost every filter algorithm on social media. I can’t imagine how much “suppression” talk would be mentioned if we had digitally sign the source even though it would be totally valid. [Viral > Truth]
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The troll farms are disastrous to this country.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You don’t even need to hire a “troll farm” now. You can just do it all with AI.
Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Its not fake if MAGA believes it … that puts it into psyops territory.
Not real, but not exactly “fake”.
verdi@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Confederate psy ops. The civil war is back, you just don’t know it yet.
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 2 weeks ago
Trump supporters making shit up and constantly lying?
next you’re gonna tell me the sky is blue
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Well, sometimes, it’s white, red, or black.
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Even if the images were real, I see a woman using her first amendment right to speech and assembly being assaulted by someone who has sworn to uphold the constitution.
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s the point. The right gets off on their enemies suffering. It’s insane considering the type of freedom trampling they claimed of the left wanted for decades is now celebrated when it’s actually happening.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
WELCOME TO THE WORRRLD OF TOMOORRROW!
Where truth doesn’t matter anymore.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is actually pretty scary because they can just put their enemies in the videos to justify arresting people they don’t like
unphazed@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not much different than grabbing the neighbors and telling them to say a few statements as witnesses, false or true. A new spin on an old game.
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A new spin with far more reach.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
True I mean without due process nothing will matter
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 weeks ago
That’s a lot of work for something they can do already
6stringringer@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Some dumbass sumbitch eating this up. Unfortunately it’s like 50x that. So many dumb motherfuckers, not enough natural disasters to help the rest of us along.
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
We really are in a post-truth society.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t know. My entire life people have more or less told me the truth is stupid and worthless. Pretty sure were never were a truth society. It’s just that now we have given up the pretense and pretext that it even exists and have decided bullshit is what really makes us happy.
pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
AI propaganda slop aside, fucking rise up already… FFS
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
can’t, watching football, eating Jack Link’s
defuse959@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Go away, baitin.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Muricans are all talk.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Pretty sure Trump will need to start the war.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ok, so why do they utilize these tools and the left cries about it.
I’ve said this for a while. The hate of AI on lemmy was encouraged by Astro turfing methods. This way leftist who usually are at the cutting edge of things instead knee cap themselves on a technology that acts as a force multiplayer. They will use this and advance. We will bitch and moan. The end result will be that they gain more and we don’t. So you can be upset and you can cry and hate this or me for pointing this out. That will never change the outcome. Your feelings don’t matter. What matters is outcomes right now. It matters what will get people to vote when it’s time. if you concede tools that help you reach eyes and ears of voters, be ready for consequences.
latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Yeah, this person’s right! We should start making inflammatory AI videos, too! Dump that whole tanker ship in the fire, fuck it!
No. I am sorry, but no. The hate on Lemmy is not against AI as a technology, it is against how it is being used, how it is being peddled, how it is being shoved down everyone’s throats, and how much damage it’s doing to our environment.
And, to your point about feelings not mattering, from what I’ve seen, most people (including myself) are exhausted! We are sureounded by people losing their shit left and right, bigotry, racism, hate in general are mainstream, Fascism is out, about, and in power, and it looks like we’re all forgetting that the planet is literally burning up again.
We are tired. Most of us have already been through enough shit as it is, we would want nothing more than to see the end of this string of “once in a lifetime” disasters, yet we understand that the easy way out means we’ll end up becoming exactly what’s ruining our lives right now. This isn’t just about winning, HOW we win is equally important, if not more so. Because that will set the tone for what would follow.
Makeitstop@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not to mention that the bullshit in AI videos made by the left would absolutely get called out in every propaganda outfit on the right. It would just give them more ammo (without the usual lies).
But even more important, it will grant legitimacy to everyone who responds to damning video evidence by claiming it was AI. We don’t need to make shit up, the reality is already horrifying. All AI will do is make it harder for people to believe their own eyes.
Xaphanos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Enslaved with honor is still enslaved.
LemmyThinkAboutIt@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It’s absolutely exhausting knowing how much potential humans have to do great things, but having to watch humanity choose to destroy themselves instead.
NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We gain by generating counter-slop? Wtf are you on about.
Anybody with a half a braincell can see the detrimental impact AI is having on social media & internet content generally. It’s not astro turfing, it’s just constantly dealing with generated nonsense that’s causing the hate.
People who are more susceptible to manipulation, which unfortunately seems to be right-leaning folks, seem to fall victim into believing & spreading it the most. They rarely do any form of fact checking.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everybody is susceptible to manipulation. Are you crazy. Who do you think you are. It’s basic shit here. You need to push a singular message through repetition and people adopt it every time. The left are so ignorant to basics which is why everybody and their grandma knows about cat litter boxes rather than the arguments against it. This era of leftist are absolutely outclassed by a mile.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m convinced AI content generation was created with the sole intent of manufacturing outrage material for gullible idiots.
because the rate at which these technophobic illiterates have adopted AI, and expertly use it to generate bullshit, is too high to be otherwise plausible.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lenin dreamt of this kind of propaganda power.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
NOT true! MAGA are KNOWN to do Their Own Research TM and would Know if it’s AI!
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
AI is coming along at the perfect times for these jackals, and as we got closer and closer, through deep fakes, etc., we all knew who would be the first side to abuse it for its political propaganda power. They even knew it, they could hardly wait for the tech to catch up to their nefarious requirements.
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
It’s all about normalising boots on the ground in American towns and cities.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
hold up. so now we don’t even have to do anything for this this to escalate?
I mean…if I’m gonna get blamed for cheating I might as well cheat, you know?
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yet another reason they probably want to stir up violence. Not only does it tip us closer towards civil war, capturing public violence means more data to feed into AI and generate violent videos.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Manufacturing consent 3.0
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 2 weeks ago
This is not slop, this is political misinformation. Call it what it is.
Slop is annoying, but it’s just AI generated spam. This is much more purposeful and insidious. The tools you used to make it are irrelevant.
rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Disinformation. Misinformation is when it’s unintentional.
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 2 weeks ago
Right, that’s more accurate.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
As much as I hate to use this term because of the most prominent person associated with it:
This literally is an infowar, this is an actual psyop.
Targetted and fairly convincing mis and disinformation deployed at exactly the moment it would generate the most chaos and distrust in your own ability to evaluate reality?
Yeah. Yeah.
Thats a psyop, that is what an actual psyop is.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
If they can take something like “woke” and use it to mean something bad, we can take infowars and use it for something good (and correct/accurate). Make that usage of the word the default when people hear it, not the other thing.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s both. Slop can be meaningless drivel or deliberate misinformation.