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Reddit stock falls for second day as references to its content in ChatGPT responses plummet

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨RandAlThor@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/reddit-stock-falls-for-second-day-as-references-to-its-content-in-chatgpt-responses-plummet-135203534.html

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  • calliope@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Huh.

    Does anyone else think that ChatGPT is still using the data, they’re just not referencing Reddit directly?

    This is how you can tell Reddit’s $200+/share price is insane. Over 10% of its value dropped based on a different unprofitable company’s references to ingested content.

    Yikes!!

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    • rafoix@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Reddit’s value is its ability to use bots to manipulate and distribute information. It’s just like Twitter, meta and all the other social media platforms.

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      • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨33⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        No, it’s value is that users have up voted and down voted good and bad data. This gives the AI training data that has been crowd sourced by humans. Bots manipulating votes would destroy the value of Reddit.

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      • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨57⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Ok, so how does a shareholder benefit from that? My company that pays people to stomp on kittens at my kitten stomping factory has value in that in gives people jobs and controls the feral cat population, but it creates no profit for the shareholders.

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    • Taldan@lemmy.world ⁨57⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Yes, but Oracle’s stock skyrocketed based on the unprofitable OpenAI promising to buy >100B worth of AI data center space from Oracle. Nvidia stock also surged on the news, since Oracle builds those data centers with Nvidia chips

      Obviously OpenAI doesn’t have the money to pay Oracle themselves, so Nvidia has helpfully given them the money

      So now we have an incredibly large cyclic corporate dependency of money from Nvidia -> OpenAI -> Oracle, then back to Nvidia. Definitely not a financial disaster waiting to happen

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    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      While I don’t agree with the reddit valuation to begin with…

      that is actually how the stock market “should” work? Reddit is a company that, at its core, produces data to sell to other companies. If other companies choose to (say they are not going to) use that data, then the value of reddit drops. That is literally supply and demand.

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨30⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Oh my god I somehow forgot that Reddit IPO8ng means I get to read stories like this.

    Oh no, the world’s most poorly managed and funded corporate social media website’s stock is tanking, oh nooooo!

    Ahahahah!

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  • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer company

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  • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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  • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Oh no!

    Anyways what’s everyone having for lunch? I’m having bean burritos.

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    • Rugtert@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Tomato soup because of the flu… What other kinds of burrito would you recommend besides bean burrito?

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨27⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Try chorizo, potato and eggs sometime.

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    • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Leftover chicken and rice! What’s on your plate?

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  • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    heh I wonder if all the “old” content getting messed with and/or removed is causing issues with the algorithm/scraper.

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    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For unauthorized scrapers? Definitely

      For paid API usage? That tends to not be public for obvious reasons but, allegedly, people have, allegedly, done tests and found “deleted” content in the results.

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      • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ive heard the same but I haven’t seen real evidence anywhere, so im skeptical. But yes I agree, if they CAN get that data, it means the training data is better-ish….

        But we are still on this site for a reason :)

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      • db2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s why I edited everything before deleting it.

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is certainly part of OpenAI’s plan, and a warning shot to other user content-driven sites.

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  • chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    fuck reddit! into the sun with it! post haste

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  • Blackfeathr@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Good, hope it crashes.

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  • Lucky_777@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They were the architects of their own demise

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  • db2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

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  • Trill88@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Buncha self absorbed cliched weirdos over there anyway

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