Well I already have jellyfin running in a container, just have to figure out how to get mum’s TV to work with it I guess
FFS Plex, the server is on my local network
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carrylex@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Rooty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Watching people realize this toejam eating weirdo was right about everything makes my day everytime.
carrylex@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ah the weekly “Plex should be entirely free even though it’s commercial software!”
kieron115@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
Plex is entirely free and completely local, but only if you don’t use the features that make it so convenient (the relay server they offer, authentication and authorization, etc). Things I’m pretty sure jellyfin doesn’t provide at all. If people spent half the time reading as they do trying to convince people to get angry at optional features then maybe we wouldn’t have so many posts like this.
Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Jellyfin does offer authentication and authorization. Relay can be done via nginx iirc?
Kirk@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
Also the weekly intentionally misunderstanding how Plex pass/Plex remote pass works in order to complain:
Free to Use: Video (movies & TV) streaming of personal content on the same local network as the Plex Media Server
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Can you get around that bs with a VPN?
HereIAm@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How is Plex used if you aren’t using it to stream your self hosted media? I remember seeing channels and such before. Is all the official stuff licensed content? I can’t imagine their offering is very competitive.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
99.9% of the use mine has seen for the past several years has been to stream to my living room TV in the same house. But regardless, what point are you making? It’s commercial software. And btw the $85 I paid years ago to use it forever was more than worth it to me.
kieron115@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
They’ve added commercial supported live channels like many other free services but yeah, it’s lacking compared to others. Pluto.tv is my go-to if I want to throw something on at a family members house or something like that. Owned by the networks, reasonably short ads, completely free. Too bad they didn’t figure that out 10 years ago lol.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 weeks ago
Except they’re spamming to users that they need this subscription even when they host locally or already have a membership.
kieron115@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
I bought a plex lifetime pass for $100 over a decade ago and I never see ads like this. I only occasionally get the notice for plex pro week and stuff like that.
this@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
So glad I installed jellyfin years ago and never bothered to set up Plex.
mintiefresh@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I got the Plex lifetime pass over 10 years ago for pretty cheap and Plex has served me well over the years. But it’s just so damn bloated now and the biggest recent change to their android app is atrocious. The app is so laggy and slow now. And downloading movies to watch locally on a tablet is just painful.
So I decided to start experimenting with Jellyfin this month and I am blown away at how fast and snappy everything is. It still isn’t as refined as Plex but there’s something to be said about privacy and using FOSS apps.
I’ll be using Jellyfin going forward now.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I’m glad I really only use it for music, but the fire TV app works decently well. Better than the fucking Netflix app, at least.
Kirk@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
I know it’s fashionable to shit on Plex here, but OP either has his server misconfigured or is just trying to stir the pot:
absentbird@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Right, the $2 is to use the relay service, which costs Plex bandwidth. They can’t just do it free for everyone forever, bandwidth costs money.
xcjs@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
They charge for remote access whether it’s through their relay service or not, and you can’t opt out of fallback to their relay service.
Kirk@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
But there are dozens of people in this very thread who if I am understanding correctly are willing to offer the same service for free to prove their point that Plex is evil.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 weeks ago
Yes, but they’re still sending emails to people even when it doesn’t apply. I had a Plex pass and still all of my users received emails and freaked out. They’re trying to trick people into thinking they need to pay, that’s the asshole move here.
BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 2 weeks ago
I have always connected via a FQDN, for some reason last night it decided to shit it’s self. Resolved by accessing via local IP, then the FQDN worked again
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ll shit on Plex as much as anyone, but I wouldn’t rule out some kind of DNS nonsense here.
kieron115@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
It means the same specific subnet. If you have multiple subnets (one for wired, one for wireless for example) it will also trigger that limitation unless you go in and manually tell it hey these are local.
fosho@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
except not via mobile devices. you have to pay for the app to work.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Think they worked out that using the IP instead of the hostname solved it.
BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 2 weeks ago
I have always connected via a FQDN, for some reason last night it decided to shit it’s self. Resolved by accessing via local IP, then the FQDN worked again
Zink@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Longtime lifetime Plex Pass holder here.
FOSS is important. Having control over how you use your own hardware and files is important.
But even if none of that mattered, once I actually used Jellyfin for a few days the snappy bloat-free feel of it won me over. Switching between Plex and Jellyfin felt like switching between windows and linux.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have a lot of custom artwork, covers, etc. How easy did that data migrate? I’ve got 6,500 movies
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I can’t imagine moving over would be difficult. Just point Jellyfin to the same folder containing your content. When I first setup my home lab, I was going to use Plex, but I could not get it to recognize media. The naming format wasn’t right or something. Jellyfin just worked immediately
MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
what is FOSS
I’ve also got lifetime plex pass. I might take more of an interest in Jellyfin if there was an easy way to transfer all of my server settings, playlists, metadata, etc. over. But it just seems like such a hastle to make the switch and I really don’t have any big issues with plex aside from needing to change the settings so they don’t sell my data.
Zink@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
FOSS is free and open source software. And the word “free” does a lot of heavy lifting there because it refers to much more than it typically not costing anything. It means that you have the freedom to do what you want with your stuff, basically. You (or others on your behalf) can see the source code for what the software is doing, and you can even change and improve it.
You’ll see the word “libre” thrown around in this context too, for that reason. For many people the liberty side of free matters a lot more than the no-cost side. But they do go hand in hand, because not needing to protect a revenue stream makes it a lot easier to not enshittify software. You’ll see names like LibreOffice and FLOSS instead of FOSS.
So it’s basically the whole Linux world that is very well represented on Lemmy and the fediverse. :)
Sent using FOSS Voyager web client …in FOSS browser LibreWolf (a fork of FireFox) …on FOSS operating system Linux.
I use Mint btw.
(This is an inside joke for the other Linux people – a play off of “I use Arch btw” where Arch Linux is a hardcore distro where you kind of build your operating system piece by piece, but with excellent documentation. Valve switched SteamOS to be based on Arch a while back)
fantacyde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Very new to using Jellyfin but I also feel the difference in loading and such. Feels so much cleaner! Already uninstalled Plex :)
SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
y’all don’t use jellyfin???
ThePooDragon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What benefits does navidrome provide as a separate music server if jellyfin can host your music already?
pipes@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I can only tell you that personally I’m interested in trying out Navidrome because I don’t like all my eggs in one basket (Jellyfin is more complex sw for sure too) and I think I’m not the only one caring more about my music collection than movies and tv. But I did try Jellyfin for music (not with my main library) and it works very well, Finamp on android has offline mode which I find almost essential.
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Does Jellyfin do smart playlists yet?
HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
With navidrome, my library is a little messed up from what I have on my local and the album art is wrong. Do you know any guide to properly setup navidrome library.
standarduser@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I’d like to personally, however with my home environment being Apple TV device the plex application is fantastic. And sharing my libraries with other friends sharing back with me is pretty great. Does jellyfinn have that ability? I’ve seen about an app that’s supported but I’m not sure about it, the Apple TV app that is.
octobob@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Something that’s getting glossed over in these comments is the ability to easily watch or listen to friends’ media.
I have my own library with about 1k movies, a bunch of anime and TV, and 10k albums. But I have like 6 or 7 friends with libraries even larger. My one friend has 37k albums, they all have thousands of movies I never even heard of, etc. It really makes it like my own mini streaming service, and I love throwing on a huge music library on shuffle via plexamp while driving to/from work.
I paid like $70 for a lifetime pass years ago, so I’m along for the ride I guess. I really rely on the music aspect of it, I haven’t had a spotify subscription in like 7 gears.
I know they changed a lot lately, and particularly what pisses me off is how vague and intentionally obfuscate how their model works now. I have friends that for years used my library, and recently have been like “I saw Plex started charging now so I stopped using it” and I have to be like “no it’s still free because I have a lifetime pass”. It’s definitely just to trick people into getting monthly subscriptions.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the ability to easily watch or listen to friends’ media
Why do you think this can’t be done with Jellyfin?
kratoz29@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Imagine wanting to charge to stream your own media with your own hardware and resources… Hey wait, we don’t have to imagine it anymore, Plex already did it.
I forgot as I am a Plex Pass Lifetime user, and oh boy I’ll be sure to milk that out (actually after all these years I think I have already done that) just to keep being an annoying stat for Plex and nothing else 🤣
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Aren’t they charging because it passes through their servers so you don’t have to expose your server directly to the public Internet?
Like, I pay $5 a month to access my Home Assistant setup remotely, although I could do it cheaper with my own AWS setup. But the money goes to development, so I’m happy to contribute.
Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 3 weeks ago
Plex recently switched the remote watch thing to be behind a paywall. If your PC/App was also on the same local network it would probably work.
Scrollone@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
Leaving Plex and switching to Jellyfin would work even better.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I know Plex is a business that has to make money, but if I hadn’t bought a lifetime pass for $50 a decade ago, I’d have dropped them at this point.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 weeks ago
I paid too, but consider that you basically paid $5 per year for 10 years and I’d say that good. You don’t need to feel guilty if you decide to leave, you got your money’s worth.
(And I mean, I have a sneaky suspicion they’re coming for the lifetime users sooner or later)
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Same here. I have no complaints about the service and it’s easy for my tech illiterate family and friends, but I’ll switch as soon as they try to charge pass owners for new features.
“Try our new Plex Pass Lifetime* Plus!”
*Valid for the lifetime of the product^†^.
~†2~ ~years~
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Imo Plex is worth the lifetime pass if you get it on sale.
All the comments saying Jellyfin is better always puzzle me. I’ve given it like three chances now and each time it feels just as buggy as the last. And that doesn’t even consider the fact that you’ll need more steps to expose it to the Internet for remote viewing or the fact that there’s literally a list of unaddressed security holes github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Just as an FYI, Jellyfin doesn’t charge money for… well, anything.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Aaaand that’s one of the reasons why I got rid of Plex. “Bought” it, then they found some other feature to paywall. Bought that, then another feature. Then it stopped playing files of certain extensions through chromecast. Fuck that. Put together Jellyfin and moved my collection over. Zero trouble since.
tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I jumped ship early on. They didn’t include skipping intros (or removed the plugin or the capability to use plugins, I don’t remember).
Went to Jellyfin, took like 2 hours to figure out what’s different. I don’t even remember, are there any features worth it staying on Plex? At least I’m not missing anything.
Also for watch together you start a watch group and can watch a show episode for episode. Instead of having to open each episode separately and having everyone join again (but maybe Plex fixed this already, I wouldn’t know).
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Or you could properly configure your server to recognise local ips
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t get this? is this because I have a lifetime pass?
Comrade_Squid@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Fellow jellyfin user 😍
duhlieluh@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
its pretty fucking easy to use jellyfin on any device after you have it set up. most platforms have it in their app store.
KursoryGlance@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I got fed up one day with Plex because it blocked me from getting to my server from one of my televisions. My LAN’s internet gateway was down and Plex was useless even though all the content was on the local network. I’m sure there’s configuration things or something that I could have changed but in the end I decided I didn’t want to be pressured into buying anything and I didn’t like the constant commercialization of Plex.
So I installed Jellyfin and never looked back. Yes, it’s missing a few features but you can get around that with nginx so totally worth it not to be harassed.
sj_zero 3 weeks ago
Honestly, I lowkey hated plex when I was using it. We never used it because it wasn't very good at the one thing it was supposed to be fore.
It was trying so hard to get me to use their media, when what I wanted was to watch my media. By contrast, jellyfin just shows me my media.
If you have a few bucks, the chromecast with android TV is what I'd recommend. The jellyfin app for android TV looks and works great -- as good as any paid streaming service imo. I got my wife using it daily, and she's not a tech person at all.
kieron115@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
Are you runnin multiple subnets? If so you need to enable them all as local nets in plex or else it’ll trigger this.
candyman337@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Genuinely Plex has become so obtrusive about NEW FEATURES, NOW WE HAVE THIS, USE THIS THUS WAY!!! and then also my libraries have somehow become even slower to load. I’ve been using jellyfin way more often
anon_8675309@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Jellyfin or Emby.
What’s plex better at?
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
User error, at least you figured it out. It’s always free to stream in your own network.
roserose56@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I would go with jellyfin, but my stupid old Samsung TV has tizen and can’t find a way to install it.
tetris11@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Well that’s one less customer they’ll have, it’s rime to take your money elsewhere!
Edit: oh right.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I used Plex about 12 years ago. The first time my internet went down, and I couldn’t use it, I stopped using it. Garbage. Not what I wanted.
I used Windows Media Center as long as I could, I loved it. But, eventually, I had to leave Windows 8 behind. Now I use Jellyfin and SABnzbd, it works okay most of the time, but I don’t serve media to the outside, so I don’t know if it works for that.
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
People often involved with piracy probably love entering personal information in that context…
Maroon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Is there something better than jellyfin? I’ve been using it for a little over a year, and it works for the most part, but clients are often pretty buggy (especially on apple apple devices)
otter@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Have you tried the third party ones? I’ve seen recommendations for Swiftfin
github.com/jellyfin/Swiftfin
remon@ani.social 3 weeks ago
Plex.
ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 3 weeks ago
I can't say I've given Jellyfin a proper try (as in using it and the clients exclusively for a long period) but we have been using Emby for quite a while before I knew it existed.
If I'm not mistaken Jellyfin is actually a fork of Emby so they're pretty similar, but one is a bit older.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
What’s an “apple apple” device? 😁
Yea, Jellyfin on iOS hsed to be buggy. Seems much better these days, and there’s also Finamp for music
ripcord@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m pretty happy with Emby, but it’s not open source.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The web interface is fantastic. I just use a spare laptop with a wireless keyboard and mouse
yamper@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
infuse is a good jellyfin client. there’s a free tier but im not sure of the limitations.
Damage@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
I mean, with a post like this, I’d call it baiting
BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 3 weeks ago
I did try and preempt that in my comment - but it’s hard to switch from plex when there are 5 other people with everything all configured and history etc
shiftymccool@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
That’s exactly what Plex wants you to say
grue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How to migrate your watch history, apparently: florianjensen.com/…/how-to-migrate-from-plex-to-j…
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 weeks ago
No it’s not. Tell them to learn to switch or lose access. It’s your server, do what you want.
obinice@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I wanted to move to Jellyfin, but there isn’t an app for it on the LG WebOS library like there is for Plex, so I wouldn’t be able to watch stuff on my TV, which sadly makes it useless for me :-(
I don’t have the money to be going out and buying extra add-ons for my TV to watch stuff either, sadly. So, Plex it is for now!
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Root your TV and install the homebrew channel on it.
Yes, this is real.
ryper@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
When was the last time you checked? A client was added to the WebOS store maybe 2 or 3 years ago for recent models, and support for older models (like my C9) came months later.
sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Yes there is, I literally have it installed on my two LG WebOS TVs. Plus there’s a web browser app that you can create shortcuts for, which works for Dropout so I would assume it works for Jellyfin as well.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes there is. I have it on my tv.
us.lgappstv.com/main/tvapp/detail?appId=1030579
Xanvial@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Can you try using DLNA to connect to jellyfin? You need to install the plugin first
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
btw i use jellyfin
kieron115@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
lol crap, it’s the new arch!
saltesc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
USE JELLYF-
Oh.
suzucappo@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Jel-ly-fin, jel-ly-fin, je-ly-fin!