Well I already have jellyfin running in a container, just have to figure out how to get mum’s TV to work with it I guess
Are you runnin multiple subnets? If so you need to enable them all as local nets in plex or else it’ll trigger this.
FFS Plex, the server is on my local network
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kieron115@startrek.website 8 months ago
tabularasa@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Why this isn’t the top comment is disappointing. This is accurate, because he’s running Plex in a container, which would generally be on a different subnet than his LAN.
kieron115@startrek.website 7 months ago
OP already acknowledged in their edit that logging in with a local IP ‘fixed’ the issue.
SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
y’all don’t use jellyfin???
HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 8 months ago
With navidrome, my library is a little messed up from what I have on my local and the album art is wrong. Do you know any guide to properly setup navidrome library.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 months ago
SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
i wish i could help. i got the privilege of having a friend who took the headache off me and just set everything up properly before i even got my server ready lol
we haven´t encountered this issue, so all i can say is: it´s solvabe. sorry
standarduser@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I’d like to personally, however with my home environment being Apple TV device the plex application is fantastic. And sharing my libraries with other friends sharing back with me is pretty great. Does jellyfinn have that ability? I’ve seen about an app that’s supported but I’m not sure about it, the Apple TV app that is.
Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
And sharing my libraries with other friends sharing back with me is pretty great.
This feature is imo THE killer feature of Plex, although I use Jellyfin. There’s no sharing of libraries like Plex does. Multiple user accounts per server, yes, but you have to switch between servers and search separately.
SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
unfortunately i have no idea about the apple ecosystem. the ios app is smooth. i hope you can just download it and test it somehow on your apple tv.
jellyfin supports several user accounts for friends and family.
ThePooDragon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What benefits does navidrome provide as a separate music server if jellyfin can host your music already?
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Does Jellyfin do smart playlists yet?
pipes@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I can only tell you that personally I’m interested in trying out Navidrome because I don’t like all my eggs in one basket (Jellyfin is more complex sw for sure too) and I think I’m not the only one caring more about my music collection than movies and tv. But I did try Jellyfin for music (not with my main library) and it works very well, Finamp on android has offline mode which I find almost essential.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ah the weekly “Plex should be entirely free even though it’s commercial software!”
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 months ago
Except they’re spamming to users that they need this subscription even when they host locally or already have a membership.
kieron115@startrek.website 8 months ago
I bought a plex lifetime pass for $100 over a decade ago and I never see ads like this. I only occasionally get the notice for plex pro week and stuff like that.
Kirk@startrek.website 8 months ago
Also the weekly intentionally misunderstanding how Plex pass/Plex remote pass works in order to complain:
Free to Use: Video (movies & TV) streaming of personal content on the same local network as the Plex Media Server
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Can you get around that bs with a VPN?
kieron115@startrek.website 8 months ago
Plex is entirely free and completely local, but only if you don’t use the features that make it so convenient (the relay server they offer, authentication and authorization, etc). Things I’m pretty sure jellyfin doesn’t provide at all. If people spent half the time reading as they do trying to convince people to get angry at optional features then maybe we wouldn’t have so many posts like this.
Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Jellyfin does offer authentication and authorization. Relay can be done via nginx iirc?
HereIAm@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How is Plex used if you aren’t using it to stream your self hosted media? I remember seeing channels and such before. Is all the official stuff licensed content? I can’t imagine their offering is very competitive.
kieron115@startrek.website 8 months ago
They’ve added commercial supported live channels like many other free services but yeah, it’s lacking compared to others. Pluto.tv is my go-to if I want to throw something on at a family members house or something like that. Owned by the networks, reasonably short ads, completely free. Too bad they didn’t figure that out 10 years ago lol.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
99.9% of the use mine has seen for the past several years has been to stream to my living room TV in the same house. But regardless, what point are you making? It’s commercial software. And btw the $85 I paid years ago to use it forever was more than worth it to me.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I thought the topic said “FPS Plex” and then I imagined a streaming service where you could play any first-person shooter instantly
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I don’t get this? is this because I have a lifetime pass?
suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Either a lifetime pass, or you actually configured local access correctly instead of botching it and then coming to lemmy to complain.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Last I knew it was only a thing for sharing between accounts and outside of “Plex home”/managed users… I haven’t seen anything since the announcement months ago. Lot of whiners tho…
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah
tetris11@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Well that’s one less customer they’ll have, it’s rime to take your money elsewhere!
Edit: oh right.
Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Rip. I use AgentDVR for security and they do the same thing, but at least with camera footage you don’t want that to be external
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Check out zoneminder, it’s the defacto open cctv server.
As for anything that offers a service for external access, that’s just setting up dynamic dns and setting up one port forward, I don’t understand why so many people struggle with that that they pay a third party a monthly fee to do it for them.
qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 8 months ago
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Should have got the lifetime!
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Just pay for bad software! That solves all problems.
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Jellyfin is garbage compared to Plex. You can’t even use a remote properly. Sorry not sorry.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No you’re doing it wrong! This is a Plex bash thread! Angry face!
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I mean it’s a mouse cursor, it’s not exactly a secret, just a limitation for a small project. I thought most here knew that lol.
dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Had the same Problem and needed to use the htcp client to make it go away.
__hetz@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I don’t have the link(s) on hand but there’s a Tizen build of Jellyfin for Samsung TVs. It runs rather slow on my old tube so I wouldn’t recommend it outside of a last resort. It’s actually smoother for me to just open the app on the TV and then remote control it from a browser/app on another device (my Steam Deck is my homelab universal remote). But you can use the Tizen dev tools or a simpler docker container to push it to the TV.
For my folks I got a cheap Walmart brand Android box (Onn 4k Plus). I installed Jellyfin from the app store then black hole’d the thing because I’m wary of cheap Android apps and their history of supply chain attacks. It’s much more responsive and also leaves me with the option of installing additional stuff like Smart Tubes, Retro Arch and whatnot.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
Sorry to hit you with a random question, but since I’m in a similar situation: are you using Tailscale to remote stream to your parents, or how do you get that working seamlessly with Jellyfin?
__hetz@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Unfortunately I can’t help in that regard. I keep everything local/unexposed so my solution for them was just running Jellyfin at their place. I was already
rsyncing some stuff to a NAS I set up for them (and vice versa), as off-site backup. Since the files were already there it made the most sense to just give them their own instance.tea@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Not the guy, but I use a domain I bought from cloudflare with a cloudflare tunnel on my network. Not as secure as a VPN like tailscale, but doesn’t require setting up a VPN for my friends and family’s TVs so they can connect to the server while keeping my actual IP hidden and without needing to do any port forwarding.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 8 months ago
Or you could properly configure your server to recognise local ips
BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 8 months ago
well everythig has been working fine for years as is, and still works fine on firefox (I wanted to cast to chromecast tonight, it worked fine 2 days ago)
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 8 months ago
I’m not gonna waste my time explaining how software might change over time, if you think you’ll never have to touch your Jellyfin server moving forward you’re sure to be disappointed
Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 8 months ago
Plex recently switched the remote watch thing to be behind a paywall. If your PC/App was also on the same local network it would probably work.
Scrollone@feddit.it 8 months ago
Leaving Plex and switching to Jellyfin would work even better.
duhlieluh@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
its pretty fucking easy to use jellyfin on any device after you have it set up. most platforms have it in their app store.
Anivia@feddit.org 8 months ago
its pretty fucking easy to use jellyfin on any device
Not easy enough for the majority of my Plex servers users to figure out on their own. I would love to switch away from Plex, but until the clients become as idiot proof as Plex I have to keep using it. Luckily I bought a lifetime plex pass a long time ago for GPU transcoding
duhlieluh@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
i feel as if the initial setup is a lot more of a learning curve than connecting a client. getting your home server accessible over wan(?) is probably one of the hardest parts if thats what you mean though
jagermo@feddit.org 8 months ago
There are a bunch of awesome jellyfin clients as well
pipes@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
That’s what freedom looks like ;) choice!
Maroon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
[deleted]suzucappo@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Jel-ly-fin, jel-ly-fin, je-ly-fin!
obinice@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I wanted to move to Jellyfin, but there isn’t an app for it on the LG WebOS library like there is for Plex, so I wouldn’t be able to watch stuff on my TV, which sadly makes it useless for me :-(
I don’t have the money to be going out and buying extra add-ons for my TV to watch stuff either, sadly. So, Plex it is for now!
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes there is. I have it on my tv.
ryper@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
When was the last time you checked? A client was added to the WebOS store maybe 2 or 3 years ago for recent models, and support for older models (like my C9) came months later.
sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Yes there is, I literally have it installed on my two LG WebOS TVs. Plus there’s a web browser app that you can create shortcuts for, which works for Dropout so I would assume it works for Jellyfin as well.
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Root your TV and install the homebrew channel on it.
Yes, this is real.
Xanvial@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Can you try using DLNA to connect to jellyfin? You need to install the plugin first
Damage@feddit.it 8 months ago
I mean, with a post like this, I’d call it baiting
BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 8 months ago
I did try and preempt that in my comment - but it’s hard to switch from plex when there are 5 other people with everything all configured and history etc
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 8 months ago
No it’s not. Tell them to learn to switch or lose access. It’s your server, do what you want.
grue@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How to migrate your watch history, apparently: florianjensen.com/…/how-to-migrate-from-plex-to-j…
shiftymccool@programming.dev 8 months ago
but it’s hard to switch from plex when there are 5 other people with everything all configured and history etc
That’s exactly what Plex wants you to say
saltesc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
USE JELLYF-
Be prepared for a barrage of “Jellyfin” in your comments.
Oh.
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Is there something better than jellyfin? I’ve been using it for a little over a year, and it works for the most part, but clients are often pretty buggy (especially on apple apple devices)
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Imo Plex is worth the lifetime pass if you get it on sale.
All the comments saying Jellyfin is better always puzzle me. I’ve given it like three chances now and each time it feels just as buggy as the last. And that doesn’t even consider the fact that you’ll need more steps to expose it to the Internet for remote viewing or the fact that there’s literally a list of unaddressed security holes github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415
TeddE@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I used Plex for privacy reasons. I stopped using Plex for privacy reasons.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
So don’t expose it to the internet - which should be the default stance for anything.
The internet was (mistakenly and intentionally) built without security - that doesn’t mean we should just accept that, but instead build everything with our own security.
Numerous mesh VPN solutions exist: Hamachi has been around since at leas 2006. NeoRouter since at least 2012. Then we have Wireguard and Tailscale.
Business build their own tunnels between locations, using routers/gateways with that capability. Consumer routers from Linksys could do this in 2006.
Thwres zero excuse for running anything exposed to the internet.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No
…except this entire thread is based on a use case for it
You’re condescending dude. I wouldn’t be using Plex if I didn’t understand like 37 things you’re implying I don’t understand here. I paid for it once, it was a good value for me, and I find it pretty weird that you apparently want to admonish me for that. If you want to use jellyfin have at it. I found it buggy to the point of barely being usable. Just sharing that experience and I don’t need anyone to agree with that.
Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 8 months ago
From one of the Jellyfin devs in the issue you linked, posted in April this year:
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That only addresses one of several items.