Submitted 3 hours ago by mintiefresh@piefed.ca to games@lemmy.world
In other words:
“We don’t want to put resources towards optimising our product. We don’t care if the methods we built our product with make it more difficult to use, while regressing in several key visual aspects. The burdon of our shortcomings will be placed on the end user, who will have to spend their resources to out-power them.”
I love Borderlands, but I really wish Randy would just shut the fuck up.
I think he thinks he’s Jack in The Pre-Sequel, but really he’s Jack in Borderlands 2.
Jack in BL2 was funny and entertaining tho.
I hate borderlands, and I also wish Randy would shut the fuck up!
B1 is a bit slow, but quite fun, B2 is brilliant, BTPS is similar to B2, but the crafting stuff is annoying, B3 was too chaotic with a too cluttred UI and a damn annoying story, B4, I have no idea
Allegedly B4 is much better than 3, aside from the abysmal performance. I can wait until they fix it and get it for $15 on sale.
Have you tried Wonderlands? I really liked it, and would love a sequel/more of that one.
I’ve been playing B4 for a few hours now and it’s been pretty good. Definitely getting more B2 vibes than B3.
Good assessment. I agree completely!
I’m not very far in, but so far I’m enjoying B4 more than TPS, and MUCH more than 3.
What crafting?
So a 4070 is a leaf blower to this asshole.
Well I’ll gladly not buy this game then.
How does someone with such a shitty personality and dress sense get so smug?
If I looked and acted like him I would want to punch myself in the face
How does someone with such a shitty personality and dress sense get so smug?
Lots and lots of money.
If I looked and acted like him I would want to punch myself in the face
He has top of the line security details to do that for him.
And they keep failing up. Your job qualification is what you have done, not how well they were doing.
Is Borderlands really all that popular still? Like I remember seeing the first few games everywhere, and people talking about them, but that was years ago. I realize I’m biased but I would expect to hear something about them…
2 was where the series really peaked. The first did some new things, and brought some fresh life into the shooter genre.
2 expanded upon it, and had a much better story. It was also in the heyday of matchmaking game lobbies, so it was easy to boot up the match finder and jump into a game with someone. Probably half of my Steam friends list came from playing this game and just vibing with people on voice chat while we ran through the side quests.
The prequel was… Alright? I’d put it about on par with the first game. It didn’t bring anything new or exciting to the table, but it was good at what it did.
Then 3 was just bad. It felt really cringey, in a “how do you do, fellow kids” kind of way. Like it was trying too hard.
And now 4 sounds like more of 3. The lead dev sounds out of touch, and the game sounds rushed.
1 was fresh and new
2 was fantastic
prequel was OK
3 tried too hard and was generally average to poor
Maybe try optimizing your game before releasing it?
It's sad that a lot of devs just make their game and then slap frame-gen on it and then release it. Like who cares about optimization. Not that I blame them, people still buy those games full-priced, so...
Who even has time to play full price games? I have enough unplayed games piled up in my steam/epic/gog libraries to keep me busy for decades.
So… I shouldn’t plan on playing this on a Steamdeck when it gets down to $19.99?
Not the current one, no. The Steam Deck is closer to a PS4 spec, and even if there weren’t optimization problems, this is built to a PS5 spec.
Someone smarter than Randy will figure out tweaks and optimisations to allow it eventually.
I'd watch reviews first.
Borderlands 3 works excellent on the deck though.
I guess I'm not premium enough to give you my money, Randy.
Nah I’m not gonna pay $80 for unoptimized copy-paste spyware my man thanks
How tf do companies get to say this shit and still be in business?? Are there that many people who just blindly bend over and take it?? Don’t people have standards anymore?
I’m so sick of bad performance from all the big engines these days. Even unity makes simple 2d games chug.
Unreal is the king of bloat. Rather than “general purpose” they strove for “all purpose” - Unreal Engine tries to do literally everything out of the box with as many bells and whistles attached as possible. The result is that Unreal Engine games require tons of optimization to run well, and even the editor itself consumes tens of gigabytes and runs like crap.
Unity is simply a mess of poor decisions and technical debt. Their devs seem to reinvent a crucial development pipeline every few years, give up halfway, then leave both options exposed and expect developers to just automatically know the pitfalls of each. Combined with horrific mismanagement and hostile revenue-seeking, Unity has lost a ton of goodwill over the past few years. It’s a major fall from grace for what was once the undisputed king of Indie dev engines.
Godot is tiny, decently performant, and great for simple games, but it’s very bare-bones and expects developers to implement their own systems for anything beyond basic rendering, physics, and netcode. Additionally, the core developers have a reputation for being incredibly resistant to making major changes even when a battle-tested pull request for a frequently requested feature is available. Still my personal pick though.
Ran dis Pitchfork into your mom last night
Someday, the industry is going to realize that while transistors might still be getting smaller, they aren’t getting cheaper for it. Which was the original formulation of Moore’s Law; cost of integrated component gets cut in half every x months.
Not just games, but the whole tech industry. Even in so far as faster hardware exists–and it just plain might not in this case–people can’t afford it.
Message received. Never pay for this game.
I feel like we've long reached the point where the benefit of top-of-the-line hardware just isn't worth it. IMO, Switch 2 ought to be enough to target, and any game that can't fit on that can probably stand to be scaled back.
I’ll avoid any controversy by not buying the game, and spending elsewhere.
I haven’t looked at the performance reviews per system yet but I recall the complaints for Borderlands 3 mainly came from people trying to run it on an old i5 with a 1060 or similar. You need a high end system, that much is clear. Or you need to get comfortable with 30 fps.
I’m not saying Randy is right to strike that tone, but you can’t deny there is a point to saying that some games are meant to be played on powerful systems and won’t accept anything less.
Sure, but powerful systems don’t run it too well either. Especially given how mediocre the game looks visually.
People with high end systems (5090s etc) are apparent having a lot of performance issues, and are unable to run the game at 60fps/4k without AI upscaling or frame generation.
There’s also a lot of complaints about stuttering, and the game wouldn’t launch at all for a lot of people when it first came out.
Sure, in theory. In practice we're talking about 3k machines struggling to hit 60FPS (dropping as low as 30fps on occasions) on max settings with DLSS on. A 3k machine gets you high setting low 70 FPS with DLSS on. If a 3k machine is not a high end system what the fuck is a high end system? And the bigger issue is what exactly are we paying for here? Borderlands 4 doesn't even look significantly better than Borderlands 3. There's no reason for the game to be this performance heavy when it looks like a game from 2019.
You have a point in some hypothetical scenario but in actuality this is a case of Randy being full of shit.
Its a recent AAA game on a modern game engine, so it probably runs awful even on top of the line hardware.
Basically every game that comes out these days in the AAA space is a horrible unoptimized mess.
My complaint about borderlands 3 was the cringe main antagonists. Like I’m happily shooting stuff and they hop in with painfully mediocre snippets of whatever they’re supposed to be doing. Also they killed off one of the best characters. The gunplay felt nice, the music and graphics were good. I didn’t have any real technical issues.
trslim@pawb.social 43 minutes ago
Hot take, Borderlands was never really a good franchise. Yeah I played through the second game, but i did so once, and never wanted to return to it afterwards.