Florida can drown in hell
Florida sues some of the biggest porn platforms, accusing them of not complying with the state's age verification law
Submitted 8 months ago by Pro@mander.xyz to technology@lemmy.world
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biotin7@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think they literally will, eventually.
DancingBear@midwest.social 8 months ago
Isn’t this like mainstream advertising for these sites in places they can’t advertise?
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Seethe hard Santis.
Furbag@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Republicans so fuckin’ stupid they’re trying prohibition again, but this time with porn.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I personally can’t wait for people to start making porn in the backwoods and running away from the cops while fucking in the bed of their pickups.
shits gonna be wild.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Well, at least they don’t already have an issue with organized pedophile rings operating within their state, right?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Prohibition was a failure as a moral crusade but enormously successful as a money making and politicking endeavor.
slapping the hood of the police state: You can fit so many more cops in this thing!
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
While I won’t contribute to their defense funds because they have all the money in the world, I do support them in spirit. You can’t beat the porn industry. You can only temporarily inconvenience it.
Suck it, Florida.
JonEFive@midwest.social 8 months ago
My favorite is when the sites just block access to IPs in those states instead of trying to comply with the laws with a message that says “Your state won’t let us do business and we refuse to violate your privacy.” VPNs gonna see a huge spike in purchases, and lots of angry gooners gonna start writing their representatives as their favorites sites drop off one by one.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In my home town of Houston, the city decided to crack down on the number of topless bars (which developers considered an eyesore). But they still recognized the bigger establishments as lucrative sites for labor exploitation popular with the O&G business community.
So they found a middle ground. There is now a ceiling on licensed venues, with 16 registrations permitted inside city limits. Each club holding a registration must contribute to a $1M pot that’s provided to the Houston PD’s “anti-sex trafficking” division. This affords police a fund by which they can do “undercover investigation” of establishments.
Everyone wins.
ultranaut@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if the bouncers are all off duty cops too, or hired from security companies owned by cops. That seems to be a very common arrangement when a business wants to ensure the local department remains friendly.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This sounds very much like the mafia wetting their beak.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I feel like porn websites have money and lots of reasons to want to burn Florida.
sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
This is disgusting. Does anyone have a list of sites so I can block them all right now?
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s in the title lol. Also new ones pop-up daily especially international ones. Use Bing to find the videos then see the domain they’re hosted at and go from there. When searching big, put xxx in the search as well and turn off the safesearch bs.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
“Oh, those disgusting revenge sites. But there are so many! Which ones!!!”
RDAM_Whiskers@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Well now I have some new sites to visit
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 months ago
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Republicans think of the children a little more than they should.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 8 months ago
Only when it comes to policing morality. When it comes to gun violence, fuck them children; they are on the own.
- Ronnie De Santis
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
fuck them children
literally, i suppose, in the case of the republicans
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 8 months ago
or child marriages (legal pedophila), or protecting pedophiles, then they literally fuck the children
haloduder@thelemmy.club 8 months ago
Meanwhile, Robin L. Rosenberg of the Southern District of Florida is the judge that blocked the release of the Epstein files.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
TIL about a bunch of new porn sites cause republicans cant understand the streisand effect.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
If these companies wanted to spin up a lobbying and industry PR group, they would have huge reach.
Which would cause other problems down the line, but they’d crush this particular problem.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I gotta admit, I’d love to see what their lobbying could accomplish.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Two problems here.
One is jurisdiction. If the website is not incorporated in Florida, has no offices in Florida, and does not use Florida servers, why should they be subject to Florida law? Everything they do is completely legal in their home jurisdiction.
This sort of enforcement is basically impossible on the internet. If anybody can access any website from anywhere, how is the website supposed to keep up with hundreds or thousands of changing jurisdictions each with their own legal requirements? And why should they have to?Second is interstate commerce clause of the Constitution. It reserves to the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. I would think that demanding that a out of state business change its business practices would fall afoul of that.
Now it could be argued that since the website advertises in Florida and accepts sign ups from Florida residents, that they do business in Florida. However the simple solution there would be to disable payment for Florida residents.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In 2018 SCOTUS ruled that states can require businesses with no physical presence or relationship to a state to collect sales tax for the state, effectively invalidating the Constitution’s Interstate Commerce Clause. Florida may be hoping this precedent along with a corrupt, illegitimate fascist majority in SCOTUS, will allow states to project their own local laws onto the entire country.
fuzzzerd@programming.dev 8 months ago
So that’s why every site started charging sales tax at the same time. Wonderful.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Because they offer their services to people living in Florida.
Same reason as to why you should include VAT on your prices if you sell to EU citizens
squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If the customers are still in Florida and they still earn money in Florida, they are still subject to Florida law.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Wait, wouldn’t it be legal for a country with legal weed to send it, just illegal go receive it in a jurisdiction where it’s illegal? Like if I lived in the Netherlands I couldn’t be arrested for mailing it to the US, but it’d get stopped at the border.
akacastor@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s a perfect analogy, I love downloading weed from websites.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 months ago
xvideo is affiliate of ph, or at elast its parent company. the other 2 are probably the same too.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Girls gone wild is still in activity? Didn’t they lost the lawsuit for coercing all those girls and even have some minor in their videos?
Fuck them
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Wasn’t it a video game? I remember some listicle about video games you can’t get anymore, I think by Guru Larry, and it mentioned a Girls Gone Wild game that was like, a trivia game where a girl would flash the camera if you got the question right or something. One of the girls filmed for the game was 17 years old at the time, and signed up with a fake ID, then sued after the game was launched.
quick google search
No I’m wrong. That happened but it had nothing to do with Girls Gone Wild, it was The Guy Game by “Topheavy Studios.”
blobchoice@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I did a bit of googling as you unlocked that memory, but it’s actually Girls Do Porn.
If anyone hasn’t heard of them, you can read about it here arstechnica.com/…/jane-does-v-girlsdoporn-how-22-…
It’s absolutely horrendous and I feel incredibly sorry for these women. It definitely made me feel uncomfortable watching porn for a while.
Mac@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Time to start small-time porn groups.
Ask your friends for their nudes.echodot@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Can I borrow some of your friends, all of mine are ugly.
Mac@mander.xyz 8 months ago
- Appreciate the natural human body as-is. Reject perfection and curated beauty.
- To get you must be willing to give.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That just makes the session last longer
masterofn001@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Prelude to a closed (north korea/russia style) internet?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Don’t forget China-style. But yes.
hobovision@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Unrelated to the article itself, but god fucking damn is that website absolutely absurd. It looks like a shitty campaign website. The sad sad man changed the seal of the office and put an eagle (because books are lame I guess) and “free state of florida” at the bottom like that’s a real thing. Can’t believe this works on people.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Solution:
Make a site only available in [insert a privacy-respecting country]
Then anyone else gets redirected to a “This website is not available in your country, please use a VPN and set it to [country]”
???
Profit?
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Band-aid for a gun shot wound.
We need to make the very politicians, activists, etc., who made these kinds of laws possible to fear for their lives.
echodot@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Yeah the key there is to invest in shares in a VPN company.
callouscomic@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Meanwhile Nascar literally has races sponsored by BlueChew and every other fucking ad during a race is for bent dick disease, all on easily accessed channels.
OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Pyronis disease 😭
Dearth@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Don’t forget the sports betting and poker apps! Good clean wholesome gambling! Sponsoring your favorite athletic entertainment!
sturger@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Ah. That explains it. Conservative pols are extorting porn sites for donations.
greybeard@feddit.online 8 months ago
And all the alcohol ads.
shalafi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Well, they are in fact breaking the law. Doesn’t matter what we think about that law, they’re in clear violation. Cannot imagine why they didn’t geofence like PornHub did. Hell, I did blocked entire countries at my last job with a simple pfSense router. This ain’t rocket science. Guess their greed got 'em?
Also, can anyone explain why a foreign operator would give two fucks? Remember The Pirate Bay’s great responses?
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
People are downvoting you because you’re telling them that the law isn’t fair, sucks my friend.
I do wonder if Xvideos or some of these other companies that are primarily international have any infrastructure in the US/Florida that could be affected by a ruling of some sort. I feel like there might be something there depending on how they’re taking payment for Xvideos Red.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 months ago
People are downvoting them because no one is beholden to the laws of a state/province/jurisdiction/etc that they have no relation with. Foreign authorities do not get to force their will onto foreign entities.
grue@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Why should any website operator be held responsible for complying with every stupid law in every podunk shithole jurisdiction everywhere in the world? By this logic, every site should comply with whatever unhinged BS North Korea and Saudi Arabia insist upon, too – is that what you want?
If Florida doesn’t like these websites that are not hosted in Florida, that’s Florida’s problem, not the website operators’, and Florida can do its own damn geofencing itself.
shalafi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I agree with every single thing you stated. But the article is about these sites breaking Florida law, and they are. Never said anything about this was sane, but again, if I operated a porn site, I’d fence Florida off as a CYA measure.
Jaded99@lemmy.world 8 months ago
[deleted]y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Lol less than a week old account with the dumbest take of the day. Obvious troll. Try harder.
axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Totally missing the point like an idiot.
But yes let’s let the USA set the rules for content in other countries by means of government regulation and pressuring visa to become the morality and wrong think police. What could go wrong???
AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I don’t think you’re understanding the issue here. It’s not a “porn is bad” issue. It’s a foreign government dictating how a service that is not hosted in their country is run issue.
If you think Florida has any right to dictate how a French company is run then idk what to tell you. Florida has no jurisdiction in France.
JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Uhhh what kind of freaky shit are you watching for that to be the image you have of porn?
shalafi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I get where you’re coming from, upvote for contributing an opinion. But I think you’re overestimating the impact of this legislation. This is not ever going to stop internet porn consumption, that boat sailed 30-years ago.
Also, social media is fucking us (heh) worse than porn ever did, not even comparable.
devolution@lemmy.world 8 months ago
To beat your meat, you must provide a drivers license.
No card. No cum.
sheridan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Probably a dumb question, but if the website servers aren’t physically located in Florida, why must the websites follow Florida law?
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Should be worried about Trump being a child rapist and the Epstein files.
Gork@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
You know what’ll also protect the children? Releasing the Epstein files.
goatinspace@feddit.org 8 months ago
That wil be interesting
a_person@piefed.social 8 months ago
This is going to be the dreamworks and pirate bay situation all over again.
CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 8 months ago
He’ll be running for higher office very soon. He’s been in at least one abhorrent headline a week for months. Hope they find the CSAM on his laptop soon so I can stop hearing about this incompetent asshole
icegladiator@lemy.lol 8 months ago
Shocking to see people defending one of the most exploitative industries out there just because its the republicans prosecuting them
Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
I think you are missing the point of what people are upset about. Its not defending the porn industry (though sex work is work and should be seen as a legit job) its more about the age verification not being about protecting kids. Its about censorship and eroding frradom of speech