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Florida sues some of the biggest porn platforms, accusing them of not complying with the state's age verification law

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Pro@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.myfloridalegal.com/newsrelease/attorney-general-james-uthmeier-fights-protect-children-online-pornography-brings

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  • Gork@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You know what’ll also protect the children? Releasing the Epstein files.

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    • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean, for once, this isn’t just a chant. Epstein was the supplier but we have yet to nail his customers to the wall.

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  • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    republicans suing republican donors you love to see it

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    • kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      it also means dick

      Really?! Where? 👀

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      • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Public airport restrooms and the like.

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      • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        On all those blocked porn websites

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      thats where alot of euro-porn is based in

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      • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        yeah that czechs out

        sorry i'll see myself out

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  • callouscomic@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Meanwhile Nascar literally has races sponsored by BlueChew and every other fucking ad during a race is for bent dick disease, all on easily accessed channels.

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    • Dearth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Don’t forget the sports betting and poker apps! Good clean wholesome gambling! Sponsoring your favorite athletic entertainment!

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      • greybeard@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And all the alcohol ads.

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      • sturger@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ah. That explains it. Conservative pols are extorting porn sites for donations.

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    • OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Pyronis disease 😭

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  • 11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Girls gone wild!?!? What are they making 12 year olds verify their age to jack it to infomercials at 3am?

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    • 0liviuhhhhh@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Its kinda funny how this bill is being introduced under the premise of “protecting children” but Girls Gone Wild is still allowed to operate after getting caught multiple times distributing child pornography

      And by funny obviously I mean horrifying

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      • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In a state that recently tried removing a bunch of child labor laws.

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      • jqubed@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not funny like a Woody Allen movie, funny like a Woody Allen marriage

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      • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        We can’t release the Epstein list, but we’re proud to announce the newest Amazon Exclusive release from the Epstein Films catalog!

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They have no idea what kids are capable of overcoming to access porn.

      Image

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      • Machinist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think I saw a nipple!

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  • haloduder@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Meanwhile, Robin L. Rosenberg of the Southern District of Florida is the judge that blocked the release of the Epstein files.

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  • sheridan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Probably a dumb question, but if the website servers aren’t physically located in Florida, why must the websites follow Florida law?

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    • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      State prosecution argues if there’s access in Florida, the site must follow their laws. These sites need to georestrict access and should have done it the day law went into effect.

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      • favoredponcho@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is like me saying I have a bucket of guns that are illegal in your state but legal in mine. You come to my state and take the guns back to yours. Who broke the law?

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      • FenrirIII@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Pornhub blocked Texas day one

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    • JustARaccoon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because they’re serving users in Florida, so they must abide by laws relating to servicing customers there.

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      • ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’d argue it’s on the state to figure that out (for better or worse). My site is on a globally connected network, if you don’t want your citizens doing something, you figure it out. It’s not my job.

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They conduct business in Florida. Their customers aren’t porn watchers, but people who buy ad space. They could stop selling ads in Florida, but they won’t.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      the companies/sites itself can block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose. yea if it accesible from florida, they have to follow the legislation there.

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      • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        yea if it accesible from florida, they have to follow the legislation there

        Why?

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      • utopiah@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose

        How? I do not think we know of a reliable way, DNS blocking get bypassed by alternative DNS ( and ISP probably do not have per state DNSes) , IP blocking get bypassed via VPN, etc. They can say they did put in place something but it is like puttimg a fence without walls around, it is just symbolic.

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  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    TIL about a bunch of new porn sites cause republicans cant understand the streisand effect.

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  • Mac@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Time to start small-time porn groups.
    Ask your friends for their nudes.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Can I borrow some of your friends, all of mine are ugly.

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      • Mac@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
        1. Appreciate the natural human body as-is. Reject perfection and curated beauty.
        2. To get you must be willing to give.
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      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That just makes the session last longer

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  • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Two problems here.
    One is jurisdiction. If the website is not incorporated in Florida, has no offices in Florida, and does not use Florida servers, why should they be subject to Florida law? Everything they do is completely legal in their home jurisdiction.
    This sort of enforcement is basically impossible on the internet. If anybody can access any website from anywhere, how is the website supposed to keep up with hundreds or thousands of changing jurisdictions each with their own legal requirements? And why should they have to?

    Second is interstate commerce clause of the Constitution. It reserves to the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. I would think that demanding that a out of state business change its business practices would fall afoul of that.

    Now it could be argued that since the website advertises in Florida and accepts sign ups from Florida residents, that they do business in Florida. However the simple solution there would be to disable payment for Florida residents.

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    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In 2018 SCOTUS ruled that states can require businesses with no physical presence or relationship to a state to collect sales tax for the state, effectively invalidating the Constitution’s Interstate Commerce Clause. Florida may be hoping this precedent along with a corrupt, illegitimate fascist majority in SCOTUS, will allow states to project their own local laws onto the entire country.

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      • fuzzzerd@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So that’s why every site started charging sales tax at the same time. Wonderful.

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If the customers are still in Florida and they still earn money in Florida, they are still subject to Florida law.

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Wait, wouldn’t it be legal for a country with legal weed to send it, just illegal go receive it in a jurisdiction where it’s illegal? Like if I lived in the Netherlands I couldn’t be arrested for mailing it to the US, but it’d get stopped at the border.

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      • akacastor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s a perfect analogy, I love downloading weed from websites.

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    • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because they offer their services to people living in Florida.

      Same reason as to why you should include VAT on your prices if you sell to EU citizens

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  • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is disgusting. Does anyone have a list of sites so I can block them all right now?

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    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Oh, those disgusting revenge sites. But there are so many! Which ones!!!”

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    • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s in the title lol. Also new ones pop-up daily especially international ones. Use Bing to find the videos then see the domain they’re hosted at and go from there. When searching big, put xxx in the search as well and turn off the safesearch bs.

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  • Furbag@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Republicans so fuckin’ stupid they’re trying prohibition again, but this time with porn.

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    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well, at least they don’t already have an issue with organized pedophile rings operating within their state, right?

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    • Deflated0ne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh they’re coming for everything but alcohol.

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      • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And pedos!

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Prohibition was a failure as a moral crusade but enormously successful as a money making and politicking endeavor.

      slapping the hood of the police state: You can fit so many more cops in this thing!

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I personally can’t wait for people to start making porn in the backwoods and running away from the cops while fucking in the bed of their pickups.

      shits gonna be wild.

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  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Image

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    • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only when it comes to policing morality. When it comes to gun violence, fuck them children; they are on the own.

      • Ronnie De Santis
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      • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        or child marriages (legal pedophila), or protecting pedophiles, then they literally fuck the children

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      • aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        fuck them children

        literally, i suppose, in the case of the republicans

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Republicans think of the children a little more than they should.

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  • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Should be worried about Trump being a child rapist and the Epstein files.

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    • Jaded99@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why not both?

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      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        One distracts from the other. Priorities.

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      • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Both what?

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  • atticus88th@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh thank goodness they didnt name my go to for obtaining porn.

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    • Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      "... and more."

      Þey should enforce age verification to look at DeSantis' stupid face.

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      • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        His face is probably the most offensive thing in Florida, at least when a certain someone isn’t at Mar-a-Lago…

        (Also: nice thorn!)

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      • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Upvote and a salute for Þe use of Þe Þorn character.

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  • frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If these companies wanted to spin up a lobbying and industry PR group, they would have huge reach.

    Which would cause other problems down the line, but they’d crush this particular problem.

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I gotta admit, I’d love to see what their lobbying could accomplish.

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  • Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Girls gone wild is still in activity? Didn’t they lost the lawsuit for coercing all those girls and even have some minor in their videos?

    Fuck them

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    • blobchoice@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I did a bit of googling as you unlocked that memory, but it’s actually Girls Do Porn.

      If anyone hasn’t heard of them, you can read about it here arstechnica.com/…/jane-does-v-girlsdoporn-how-22-…

      It’s absolutely horrendous and I feel incredibly sorry for these women. It definitely made me feel uncomfortable watching porn for a while.

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wasn’t it a video game? I remember some listicle about video games you can’t get anymore, I think by Guru Larry, and it mentioned a Girls Gone Wild game that was like, a trivia game where a girl would flash the camera if you got the question right or something. One of the girls filmed for the game was 17 years old at the time, and signed up with a fake ID, then sued after the game was launched.

      quick google search

      No I’m wrong. That happened but it had nothing to do with Girls Gone Wild, it was The Guy Game by “Topheavy Studios.”

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  • masterofn001@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Prelude to a closed (north korea/russia style) internet?

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Don’t forget China-style. But yes.

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  • RDAM_Whiskers@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well now I have some new sites to visit

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  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    While I won’t contribute to their defense funds because they have all the money in the world, I do support them in spirit. You can’t beat the porn industry. You can only temporarily inconvenience it.

    Suck it, Florida.

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    • JonEFive@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My favorite is when the sites just block access to IPs in those states instead of trying to comply with the laws with a message that says “Your state won’t let us do business and we refuse to violate your privacy.” VPNs gonna see a huge spike in purchases, and lots of angry gooners gonna start writing their representatives as their favorites sites drop off one by one.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In my home town of Houston, the city decided to crack down on the number of topless bars (which developers considered an eyesore). But they still recognized the bigger establishments as lucrative sites for labor exploitation popular with the O&G business community.

      So they found a middle ground. There is now a ceiling on licensed venues, with 16 registrations permitted inside city limits. Each club holding a registration must contribute to a $1M pot that’s provided to the Houston PD’s “anti-sex trafficking” division. This affords police a fund by which they can do “undercover investigation” of establishments.

      Everyone wins.

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This sounds very much like the mafia wetting their beak.

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      • ultranaut@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I wouldn’t be surprised if the bouncers are all off duty cops too, or hired from security companies owned by cops. That seems to be a very common arrangement when a business wants to ensure the local department remains friendly.

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  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Solution:

    Make a site only available in [insert a privacy-respecting country]

    Then anyone else gets redirected to a “This website is not available in your country, please use a VPN and set it to [country]”

    ???

    Profit?

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  • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I feel like porn websites have money and lots of reasons to want to burn Florida.

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  • CobblerScholar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He’ll be running for higher office very soon. He’s been in at least one abhorrent headline a week for months. Hope they find the CSAM on his laptop soon so I can stop hearing about this incompetent asshole

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  • DancingBear@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Isn’t this like mainstream advertising for these sites in places they can’t advertise?

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  • devolution@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To beat your meat, you must provide a drivers license.

    No card. No cum.

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  • biotin7@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Florida can drown in hell

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  • hobovision@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unrelated to the article itself, but god fucking damn is that website absolutely absurd. It looks like a shitty campaign website. The sad sad man changed the seal of the office and put an eagle (because books are lame I guess) and “free state of florida” at the bottom like that’s a real thing. Can’t believe this works on people.

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  • a_person@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is going to be the dreamworks and pirate bay situation all over again.

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  • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I need a good porn tor hidden service. Any good ones?

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    xvideo is affiliate of ph, or at elast its parent company. the other 2 are probably the same too.

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  • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, they are in fact breaking the law. Doesn’t matter what we think about that law, they’re in clear violation. Cannot imagine why they didn’t geofence like PornHub did. Hell, I did blocked entire countries at my last job with a simple pfSense router. This ain’t rocket science. Guess their greed got 'em?

    Also, can anyone explain why a foreign operator would give two fucks? Remember The Pirate Bay’s great responses?

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