Hasn’t Elon been found multiple times suppressing people who say things he doesn’t like?
US condemns French inquiry into Elon Musk's social media platform X/Twitter.
Submitted 8 months ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Noodle07@lemmy.world 8 months ago
About twice a day yeah
Tiger666@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
But Twitter censors all kinds of posts? There is no free speech on Twitter. Just try posting the word cisgendered and see what happens.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
us only likes their own censorship
HorseRabbit@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Censorship is when the French ask “what are you doing?”
smeenz@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
Oh Renee…what are you doing with the painting of the fallen Madonna with the big boobies?
Allemaniac@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“activist” even trying to discredit foreign federal bureaus by framing them as politically motivated lmao what a bunch of fucking crooks in the US admin.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
100% “X is an organized crime group”.
they’re manipulating public opinion towards what the rich want to hear. it’s all propaganda.
elon musk bought twitter to conduct “social engineering” after doing classical engineering before at tesla. it’s all just a way to control what people think, and it’s partially working. the people need to get off commercial social media and use something community-hosted, like the fediverse. to reduce the tinkering with recommendation algorithms and also to reduce the bot army.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It is not censorship. This is not a government telling you what to publish or not. This is just finding out how a company is abusing its product to influence politics.
letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Twitter only allows nazi speech now.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 months ago
US condemns…
Good. That means you’re doing the right thing. Keep doing it.
Allero@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Now defend it from domestic one.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The US Administration, more importantly a branch of the department of state, condemns French inquiry.
A lot of the USA are cheering the French on.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Them: Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard
Us: Free Palestine
Them: Terrorist!
Bubbey@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A French Inquiry…
“Did you ehhhhhh… do ze crime?”
“Non”
“Par Excellence! Time for some coffee and cigarettes!”
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I hear cigarettes have ironically fallen out of popularity in France, despite it being seen as culturally significant in the past.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
By condemning this, the “US” is shooting itself in the foot.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Martin: Organized crime?
Cosmo: Hah. Don’t kid yourself. It’s not that organized.– Sneakers (1992)
Twitter is absolutely going to say “well, we’re definitely not an organised hate group. Sometimes people just hate stuff. We’re just a social media platform, helping people organise. Oh shit”
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 8 months ago
offtopic: I love that movie. It shows everything right despite everything being not serious.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
so … it’s not an “organized hate group” but an “organizing hate” group? how is that better?
febra@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Of course the US will fight tooth and nail to keep its propaganda machines at work all around the globe.
breecher@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
While defunding NPR and PBS.
Tinidril@midwest.social 8 months ago
Except that Trump is currently trying to dismantle Voice of America" and other propaganda machines around the globe.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
yeah i guess trump represents a greater shift towards inward politics. not interfering with the rest of the world so much, just doing internal stuff.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 months ago
VoA is competing with the private sector propaganda wing.
This is just American Libertarianism taken to its logical conclusion. The mistake the Communists made was thinking Pravda didn’t need to turn an enormous profit.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 8 months ago
While being the biggest pusher of propaganda in US history.
And VOA was only “propaganda” when you consider objective information to be “propaganda”, like dumbfuck Trumpers do.
Since 1976 the Charter and later the 1994 International Broadcasting Act legally forbid government officials from dictating content. Don’t worry about facts, though.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 months ago
that’s great, they have always been poison
Wolf@lemmy.today 8 months ago
It’s ok when he does it. There is no such thing as a Republican who is able to be shamed by hypocrisy. It’s their super power.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 months ago
EU just rolled over on trade with US. If anyone hopes for some actual fight against US and US corporations coming for Europe they will be disappointment.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 months ago
EU just rolled over on trade with US.
Controlled Opposition. The plutocrats in Europe and the plutocrats in America have been working hand-in-glove for over a century. This is no different than the German government “rolling over” for IBM and Ford and Coca-Cola in the 1930s.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Vasals gonna vasal
KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 8 months ago
Very disappointing indeed. Hoping to at least see continued work on digital independence, especially in governmental entities.
ikidd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ask Stephen Colbert about the US’ vaunted “free speech”.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 8 months ago
His free speech was never infringed. He can say what he wants and not be prosecuted for it. Whether or not he has a job isn’t covered by the First Amendment.
ikidd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Despite being an “entertainment” show, satirical media is still media, and covered by the First. These shows still rely on that protection against lawsuits, and have been exhonerated with the same defence, Cobert in particular. If you could prove government interference in this case, I’d say there was a pretty good basis for a court case based on freedom of the press, which is the corollary of free speech.
Tja@programming.dev 8 months ago
Colbert didn’t go to prison, not really a good argument.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Why is this downvoted? It correctly point out what “free speech” actually means.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Colbert didn’t go to prison
I’m sure Colbert’s on the list somewhere.
breecher@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
There are many ways to suppress speech.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 months ago
Just block it in Europe already. Or give Musk daily-increasing fines so he has it turned off in the EU.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just block it in Europe already.
The Brazil Government did this for a week and immediately extracted big concessions from Elon.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Our leaders will try not to anger the master too much.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
then we need new master, i guess?
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 8 months ago
The Uk is never gonna block anything from the US let’s be honest, the EU might and maybe the rest of Europe, but the UK will not follow.
bigmamoth@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They are literally blocking post on x under their new protect the children rules. Which is a rule that will be abuse
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No chance
moopet@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
As a UKian, this is unfortunately true. No matter how many of us want to just cut off the US completely, the government will always capitulate.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
What a shithole country.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
i don’t like that term because it’s an insult to my butthole. it just so happens that i think that buttholes can be neat, but the US is not.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I was refering to the hole you shit in, not the hole you shit out of.
Redex68@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Did they really classify Twitter as an “organised crime group”? Because that does seem a bit farfetched.
falcunculus@jlai.lu 8 months ago
I have no proof but I suspect it is a mistranslation. The French legal term “bande organisée” literally means “organized crime group” but is simply the French counterpart to criminal conspiracy. That is to say, they are accused not merely of breaking the law but also of having done so as an organized group.
thejml@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
The only thing I condemn the French inquiry on is that it should have already happened.
pivot_root@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard, not silence speech they dislike.
That’s real fucking rich coming from the government that:
- Removed all references to “trans-” regardless of context.
- Retaliates against left-leaning press.
- Calls information they dislike “fake news”.
- Sends immigrants to concentration camps.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m not even joking, I thought that whoever wrote this tweet was supporting the French investigation when I first read that.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 months ago
EU is not much better.
You have to be real careful with controversial subjects such as not liking genocide.
And plenty countries have forbidden communism.
Not to mention not honoring elections in Romania and anulling them, and not letting the winning party participate again.
Even if it is a horrible right-wing party that won, that is still a mask off moment.Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 8 months ago
so what do they do with transport? Or foreign companies using trans in their name?
jimjam5@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wait until they find out that the cars and trucks they drive have transmissions.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
What did they do indeed
NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
No no, you don’t understand. That doesn’t apply to us plebs (US citizens). It only applies to other countries so that the government can checks notes “strongly condemn” them.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Don’t forget
removed funding for weather services or deleted materials related to climate change
runs from people trying to ask them questions
pivot_root@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If we’re adding “runs from people trying to ask them questions”, we should be more accurate about it.
runs from people trying to ask them questions, calling them plants put there by political opponents
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
That because they don’t want free apeech. They want the speech only if its their speech.
SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 8 months ago
That’s the regressive mindset for you. When they say ‘all’, they mean themselves.
AlexLost@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They don’t want to be forced to listen to what YOU have to say, but they want to force YOU to listen to what they have to say.
elvith@feddit.org 8 months ago
As part of a criminal investigation, an activist American payment network is requesting to stop selling video games that they seem inappropriate and has basically treated itch.io, Steam, etc. as an “organized crime group.” Democratic governments should allow all games to be played, not silence things they dislike. The United States will defend the free prudence of all Americans against acts of foreign fun.
ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 8 months ago
What is the actual context here? I don’t trust what this tweet says
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 8 months ago
USA can straight up go fuck itself now. They don’t dictate anything anymore.
MBech@feddit.dk 8 months ago
Seriously. They should do the rest of the world a favour and close itself off from us. That way we won’t dictate what their idiots can and can’t do or say.
derry@midwest.social 8 months ago
No please, don’t leave those of us that are rational in here around with the nut jobs. We’re trying to correct course but these people are nuts
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Is this the same United States that’s investigating people for having unflattering memes of the vice president on their phone?
Tell us more about the importance of free speech.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
It’s the free speech where they cancel broadcasts they don’t like in exchange for approving corporate mergers.
kokesh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Idiots.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not even regular idiots, hypocritical idiots.
db2@lemmy.world 8 months ago
He’s not American, he’s a super racist south african with Canadian citizenship.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
He’s been an American for 23 years.
db2@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In America. Not the same thing. He’s been an illegal alien the whole time.
HubertManne@piefed.social 8 months ago
large backlog in north korea, russia, and china. Better get that military up to snuff.
SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Why are they defending an app/website that has essentially become a knockoff of Stormfront?
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
because the us government is essentially a knockoff of stormfront
SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Couldn’t agree more.