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US condemns French inquiry into Elon Musk's social media platform X/Twitter.
Submitted 1 day ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
febra@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Of course the US will fight tooth and nail to keep its propaganda machines at work all around the globe.
breecher@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
While defunding NPR and PBS.
Tinidril@midwest.social 17 hours ago
Except that Trump is currently trying to dismantle Voice of America" and other propaganda machines around the globe.
Wolf@lemmy.today 16 hours ago
It’s ok when he does it. There is no such thing as a Republican who is able to be shamed by hypocrisy. It’s their super power.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
VoA is competing with the private sector propaganda wing.
This is just American Libertarianism taken to its logical conclusion. The mistake the Communists made was thinking Pravda didn’t need to turn an enormous profit.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
While being the biggest pusher of propaganda in US history.
And VOA was only “propaganda” when you consider objective information to be “propaganda”, like dumbfuck Trumpers do.
Since 1976 the Charter and later the 1994 International Broadcasting Act legally forbid government officials from dictating content. Don’t worry about facts, though.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
that’s great, they have always been poison
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 11 hours ago
By condemning this, the “US” is shooting itself in the foot.
pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard, not silence speech they dislike.
That’s real fucking rich coming from the government that:
- Removed all references to “trans-” regardless of context.
- Retaliates against left-leaning press.
- Calls information they dislike “fake news”.
- Sends immigrants to concentration camps.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Don’t forget
removed funding for weather services or deleted materials related to climate change
runs from people trying to ask them questions
pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If we’re adding “runs from people trying to ask them questions”, we should be more accurate about it.
runs from people trying to ask them questions, calling them plants put there by political opponents
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
That because they don’t want free apeech. They want the speech only if its their speech.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
EU is not much better.
You have to be real careful with controversial subjects such as not liking genocide.
And plenty countries have forbidden communism.
Not to mention not honoring elections in Romania and anulling them, and not letting the winning party participate again.
Even if it is a horrible right-wing party that won, that is still a mask off moment.HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I’m not even joking, I thought that whoever wrote this tweet was supporting the French investigation when I first read that.
SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 day ago
That’s the regressive mindset for you. When they say ‘all’, they mean themselves.
AlexLost@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They don’t want to be forced to listen to what YOU have to say, but they want to force YOU to listen to what they have to say.
NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
No no, you don’t understand. That doesn’t apply to us plebs (US citizens). It only applies to other countries so that the government can checks notes “strongly condemn” them.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 16 hours ago
so what do they do with transport? Or foreign companies using trans in their name?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
What did they do indeed
kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Translation help from Fascist English to US English:
- “activist” = a non-politician whose free speech we don’t like
- "allow all voices to be heard" / “free speech” = extremist/unconstitutional/propaganda speech which serves the interests of the current fascist regime must be allowed, while every other speech will be labelled as being activist/communist/un-American/…
- “defend […] all Americans” = at least the part of Americans which we tolerate or haven’t jailed yet (subject to change)
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Kyub’s right.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net 14 hours ago
Martin: Organized crime?
Cosmo: Hah. Don’t kid yourself. It’s not that organized.– Sneakers (1992)
Twitter is absolutely going to say “well, we’re definitely not an organised hate group. Sometimes people just hate stuff. We’re just a social media platform, helping people organise. Oh shit”
letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Twitter only allows nazi speech now.
ikidd@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Ask Stephen Colbert about the US’ vaunted “free speech”.
Tja@programming.dev 15 hours ago
Colbert didn’t go to prison, not really a good argument.
breecher@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
There are many ways to suppress speech.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Colbert didn’t go to prison
I’m sure Colbert’s on the list somewhere.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Why is this downvoted? It correctly point out what “free speech” actually means.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
His free speech was never infringed. He can say what he wants and not be prosecuted for it. Whether or not he has a job isn’t covered by the First Amendment.
ikidd@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Despite being an “entertainment” show, satirical media is still media, and covered by the First. These shows still rely on that protection against lawsuits, and have been exhonerated with the same defence, Cobert in particular. If you could prove government interference in this case, I’d say there was a pretty good basis for a court case based on freedom of the press, which is the corollary of free speech.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Is this the same United States that’s investigating people for having unflattering memes of the vice president on their phone?
Tell us more about the importance of free speech.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It’s the free speech where they cancel broadcasts they don’t like in exchange for approving corporate mergers.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
The US Administration, more importantly a branch of the department of state, condemns French inquiry.
A lot of the USA are cheering the French on.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 20 hours ago
Just block it in Europe already. Or give Musk daily-increasing fines so he has it turned off in the EU.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Just block it in Europe already.
The Brazil Government did this for a week and immediately extracted big concessions from Elon.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 16 hours ago
The Uk is never gonna block anything from the US let’s be honest, the EU might and maybe the rest of Europe, but the UK will not follow.
moopet@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
As a UKian, this is unfortunately true. No matter how many of us want to just cut off the US completely, the government will always capitulate.
bigmamoth@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
They are literally blocking post on x under their new protect the children rules. Which is a rule that will be abuse
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
No chance
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Our leaders will try not to anger the master too much.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 18 hours ago
EU just rolled over on trade with US. If anyone hopes for some actual fight against US and US corporations coming for Europe they will be disappointment.
KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 18 hours ago
Very disappointing indeed. Hoping to at least see continued work on digital independence, especially in governmental entities.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Vasals gonna vasal
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
EU just rolled over on trade with US.
Controlled Opposition. The plutocrats in Europe and the plutocrats in America have been working hand-in-glove for over a century. This is no different than the German government “rolling over” for IBM and Ford and Coca-Cola in the 1930s.
Bubbey@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
A French Inquiry…
“Did you ehhhhhh… do ze crime?”
“Non”
“Par Excellence! Time for some coffee and cigarettes!”
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I hear cigarettes have ironically fallen out of popularity in France, despite it being seen as culturally significant in the past.
Batman@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Could call it a… French inquisition
elvith@feddit.org 1 day ago
As part of a criminal investigation, an activist American payment network is requesting to stop selling video games that they seem inappropriate and has basically treated itch.io, Steam, etc. as an “organized crime group.” Democratic governments should allow all games to be played, not silence things they dislike. The United States will defend the free prudence of all Americans against acts of foreign fun.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 day ago
You have to believe that the French government have evaluated in the same week the risk of recognising Palestine and condemning a US company against how vindictive the US government are right now. Hopefully they stick to their guns on both.
thejml@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
The only thing I condemn the French inquiry on is that it should have already happened.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 day ago
USA can straight up go fuck itself now. They don’t dictate anything anymore.
MBech@feddit.dk 1 day ago
Seriously. They should do the rest of the world a favour and close itself off from us. That way we won’t dictate what their idiots can and can’t do or say.
derry@midwest.social 1 day ago
No please, don’t leave those of us that are rational in here around with the nut jobs. We’re trying to correct course but these people are nuts
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
From my experience living in the US, the country is not a good reference point for any discussions around the nature of free speech.
Free speech polemics in the US largely have a demonstrative role with individuals parroting random copytext that they’ve heard before in an attempt to position themselves as being special and independent.
In a way, the whole thing is very entertaining.
cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Every state or social group has its shibboleths - the American one is just to performatively pretend they don’t have any.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Definitely. There is a lot of good things about the US, lots to see, different types of experiences, nice nature. But that doesn’t mean I have to agree with polemics that make no sense.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
There is that.
American democrats, though, irritated me more until I’ve started noticing Republicans. They have that “parties switched in 1960s” myth (only parties’ ideas on race switched, while the main ideology of the democratic party is not too different from “progressives” of 1890s, those guys who advocated for prophylactic lynchings ; and it’s the same about Republicans, whose “anti-racist” ideas were just as Christian fundamentalism based as their today’s projects), and also the “popular party” myth (while even in appearances being something to the top of which only people born with a silver spoon in mouth can get).
At the same time the “free speech” stuff over there seems to mostly be about “they in their totalitarian countries (or pockets of society dominated by the other party) are lied by their propaganda media, and we here are free and are told the truth”.
Not sure it’s entertaining, it looks depressing. But I haven’t lived in the US.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 23 hours ago
What a shithole country.
semisimian@startrek.website 1 day ago
Okay, now defend us from the foreign censorship that Israeli lobbyists baked into our state constitutions. newsweek.com/pro-palestinian-protest-states-colle…
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Requesting information isn’t limiting free speech is it? Now if that algorithm shows it is indeed limiting or promoting people’s speech in a non-equal manner, that would be limiting people’s free speech would it not?
themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Dont try fact on the American government and 40% of its population. They dont work like that.
Almacca@aussie.zone 21 hours ago
Surely ‘X’ isn’t doing that? Say it ain’t so!
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Just call it Twitter. He’s been trying to make “fetch” happen since the 90s. We get it, rich boy, you have a single-character .com domain. I’m still sending money over PayPal, because that’s what it’s fucking called.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 day ago
PayPal? The platform that can freeze your account and keep your money for whatever reason and amount of time they like? I don't know...
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Unfortunately if that’s the only payment method someone accepts other than cash
kokesh@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Idiots.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not even regular idiots, hypocritical idiots.
Allero@lemmy.today 8 hours ago
Now defend it from domestic one.
ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 1 day ago
What is the actual context here? I don’t trust what this tweet says
Redex68@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Did they really classify Twitter as an “organised crime group”? Because that does seem a bit farfetched.
falcunculus@jlai.lu 1 day ago
I have no proof but I suspect it is a mistranslation. The French legal term “bande organisée” literally means “organized crime group” but is simply the French counterpart to criminal conspiracy. That is to say, they are accused not merely of breaking the law but also of having done so as an organized group.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
us should realise the world doesn't revolve around them and nobody respects them.
db2@lemmy.world 1 day ago
He’s not American, he’s a super racist south african with Canadian citizenship.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
He’s been an American for 23 years.
db2@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In America. Not the same thing. He’s been an illegal alien the whole time.
HubertManne@piefed.social 1 day ago
large backlog in north korea, russia, and china. Better get that military up to snuff.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
Them: Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard
Us: Free Palestine
Them: Terrorist!