Well, largest this week. And
Yeah, $800 isn’t a small chunk of change, but for a hard drive of this capacity, it’s monumentally cheap.
Nah, a 24TB is $300 and some 20TB’s are even lower $ per TB.
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Well, largest this week. And
Yeah, $800 isn’t a small chunk of change, but for a hard drive of this capacity, it’s monumentally cheap.
Nah, a 24TB is $300 and some 20TB’s are even lower $ per TB.
I paid $600+ for a 24 TB drive, tax free. I feel robbed. Although I’m glad not to shop at Newegg.
Yes, fuck Newegg (and amazon too). I’ve been using B&H for disks and I have no complaints about them. They have the Seagate Ironwolf Pro 24TB at $479 currently, but last week it was on sale for $419. (I only look at 5yr warranty disks.)
I was not in a position to take advantage as I’ve already made my disk purchase this go around, so I’ll wait for the next deep discount to hit if it is timely.
Omg I really have been out of the loop. I originally filled my 8 bay NAS with 6tb drives starting back in 2018. Once they would fill, i added another. 3 years ago, I finally ran out of space and started swapping out the 6tb for 10tb. Due to how it works, I needed to do 2 before I saw any additional space. I think i have 3 or 4 now, and the last one was 2 years ago. They did cost around $250 at the time, and I think i got 1 for just over $200. The fact that I can more than double that for only $300 is crazy news to me. Guess I am going to stop buying 10tb now. The only part that sucks is having to get 2 up front…
I got some 16TB drives recently for around $200 each, though they were refurbished. Usually a refurbished drive will save you 20-40%. Shipping can be a fortune though.
Refurbished drives sound scary. Any data to point towards that not being a problem?
I bought 8TB for something like $300. 36TB seems quite attractive.
It will take about 36 hours to fill this drive at 270mb/s
That’s a long time to backup your giraffe porn collection.
What kind of degenerate do you think I am? That’s 36 hours to back up my walrus porn collection.
How did you know about my giraffe porn?
How you 'bout to call me out like that ?
I wanna fuck this HDD. To have that much storage on one drive when I currently have ~30TB shared between 20 drives makes me very erect.
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Ain’t nothing about me is average except for the size of my cock.
nephew
twenty!?
Yeah, lots of drives of varrying capacity.
That’s a lot of porn.
And linux distros
Just say it’s full of porn, it’s easier to explain
Honestly, when I first got into forums, I thought they were literally talking about Linux distros, because at the time, that’s literally all I was seeding since that’s what I was into.
Werd
I have around 150 distros seeding 🤣. I need to get those numbers up!
You’d go broke. Of course it’s all Linux, family archives and DNA test data, BTC blockchain, backed up FOSS projects, archives of Wikipedia, Project Gutenberg and OpenStreetMap, and of course - POVRay renders.
with this I can store at least 3 modern “AAA” games
More like zero, cause modern AAA games require an NVME (or st least an SSD) and this is a good old fashioned 7200 RPM drive.
Oh definitely, game sizes are getting extreme and I prefer smaller indie games now 🥲
Defragmenting…
Man, I used to LOVE defragmenting drives. I felt like I was actually doing something productive, and I just got to sit back and watch the magic happen.
Now I know better.
I’ve never had to defragment the ext4 drives in my server. Ext4 is fairly resistant to fragmentation.
It’s not really Ext4 doing that, it’s a bunch of tricks in the OS layer and the way apps write files to storage that limits it.
You’ll see it if you use something like a BT client without pre-allocation, those files can get heavily fragmented depending on the download speed.
One of the worst things that the newer Windows versions did is get rid of that little view of defragmenting. It was much more interesting than watching a number slowly tick up.
Seagate so how long before it fails?
In my experience, not all Seagates will fail but most HDD’s that fail will be Seagates.
Because Seagate sell the most drives and all drives fail?
About 3 hours.
At least it’s not a WD POS
no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
I can certainly understand holding grudges against corporations. I didn’t buy anything from Sony for a very long time after their fuckery George Hotz and Nintendo’s latest horseshit has me staying away from them, but that was a single firmware bug that locked down hard drives (note, the data was still intact) a very long time ago. Seagate even issued a firmware update to prevent the bug from biting users it hadn’t hit yet, but firmware updates at the time weren’t really something people thought to ever do, and operating systems did not check for them automatically back then like they do now.
Seagate fucked up but they also did everything they could to make it right. That matters. Plus, look at their competition. WD famously lied about their red drives not being SMR when they actually were. And I’ve only ever had WD hard drives and sandisk flash drives die on me. And guess who owns sandisk? Western Digital!
I guess if you must go with a another company, there’s the louder and more expensive Toshiba drives but I have never used those before so I know nothing about them aside from their reputation for being loud.
And I’ve only ever had WD hard drives and sandisk flash drives die on me
Maybe it’s confirmation bias but almost all memory that failed on me has been sandisk-flash storage. Zhe only exception being a corsair ssd which failed after 3 yrs as the main laptop drive + another 3 as a server boot and log-drive.
Every manufacturer has made a product that failed.
but not every manufacturer has had class action lawsuits filed against their continued shitty products.
but then wd and their fake red nas drives with smr tech?
what else we have?
Wait… fake? I just bought some of those.
Can someone recommend me a hard drive that won’t fail immediately? Internal, not SSD, from which cheap ones will die even sooner, and I need it for archival reasons, not speed or fancy new tech, otherwise I have two SSDs.
If you’re relying on one hard drive not failing to preserve your data you are doing it wrong from the jump. I’ve got about a dozen hard drives in play from seagate and WD at any given time (mostly seagate because they’re cheaper and I don’t need speed either) and haven’t had a failure yet. Backblaze used to publish stats about the hard drives they use, not sure if they still do but that would give you some data to go off.
Hard drives aren’t great for archival in general, but any modern drive should work. Grab multiple brands and make at least two copies. Look for sales. Externals regularly go below $15/tb these days.
My WD Red Pros have almost all lasted me 7+ years but the best thing (and probably cheapest nowadays) is a proper 3-2-1 backup plan.
I think refurbished enterprise drives usually have a lot of extra protection hardware that helps them last a very long time. Seagate advertises a mean time to failure on their exos drives of ~200 years with a moderate level of usage. I feel like it would almost always be a better choice to get more refurbished enterprise drives than fewer new consumer drives.
I personally found an 8tb exos on servedpartdeals for ~$100 which seems to be in very good condition after checking the SMART monitoring. I’m just using it as a backup so there isn’t any data on it that isn’t also somewhere else, so I didn’t bother with redundancy.
I’m not an expert, but this is just from the research I did before buying that backup drive.
I had a similar experience with Samsung. I had a bunch of evo 870 SSDs up and die for no reason. Turns out, it was a firmware bug in the drive and they just need an update, but the update needs to take place before the drive fails.
I had to RMA the failures. The rest were updated without incident and have been running perfectly ever since.
I’d still buy Samsung.
I didn’t lose a lot of data, but I can certainly understand holding a grudge on something like that. From the other comments here, hate for Seagate isn’t exactly rare.
I’m amazed it’s only $800. I figured that shit was gonna be like 8-10 thousand.
Do you need it? Probably not. Do you want it? Oh, yeah.
I feel seen
Yeah, but it’s Seagate. I have worked in data centers, and Seagate drives had the most failures of all my drives and somehow is still in business. I’d say I was doing an RMA of 5-6 drives a month that were Seagate, and only 4-5 a year Western Digital.
This hard drive is so big that when it sits around the house, it sits around the house.
Sorry but without a banana for scale it’s hard to tell how big it really is
Me who stores important data on seagate external HDD with no backup reading the comments roasting seagate:
Imagine having that…then dropping it…
That’s a lot of porn. And possibly other stuff, too.
Pretty sure I had a bigger hard drive than that for my Amiga. You could have broken a toe if you’d dropped it.
Great, can’t wait to afford it in 60 years.
Makes me shudder. I have to replace a drive in my array, because it is degraded. It’s a 4TB. Imagine having to replace one of these. I’d much rather have a bunch of cheaper drives, even if they are a bit more expensive per TB, because the replacement cost will eventually make the total cost of ownership lower.
finally i’ll be able to self-host one piece streaming
I think if I needed to store 36TB of data, I would rather get several smaller disks.
my qbittorrent is gonna love that
What is the usecase for drives that large?
I ‘only’ have 12Tb drives and yet my zfs-pool already needs ~two weeks to scrub it all. With something like this it would literally not be done before the next scheduled scrub.
Is it worth replacing within a year only to be sent a refurbished when it dies?
Finally, a hard drive which can store more than a dozen AAA games
Can’t wait to see this bad boy on serverpartdeals in a couple years if I’m still alive
So how much data would I lose when it dies?
Is Seagate still producing shitty drives that fail a few days after the warranty expired?
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