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Say Hello to the World's Largest Hard Drive, a Massive 36TB Seagate
Submitted 2 days ago by TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.vice.com/en/article/worlds-largest-hard-drive-massive-36tb-seagate/
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paulbg@programming.dev 6 hours ago
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 6 hours ago
Finally, a hard drive which can store more than a dozen AAA games
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
my qbittorrent is gonna love that
paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Hello! 👋
Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 hours ago
Howdy! 🤠
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Why does this have so many up votes
IMALlama@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Check the post title ;)
solrize@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Well, largest this week. And
Yeah, $800 isn’t a small chunk of change, but for a hard drive of this capacity, it’s monumentally cheap.
Nah, a 24TB is $300 and some 20TB’s are even lower $ per TB.
victorz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I paid $600+ for a 24 TB drive, tax free. I feel robbed. Although I’m glad not to shop at Newegg.
PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yes, fuck Newegg (and amazon too). I’ve been using B&H for disks and I have no complaints about them. They have the Seagate Ironwolf Pro 24TB at $479 currently, but last week it was on sale for $419. (I only look at 5yr warranty disks.)
I was not in a position to take advantage as I’ve already made my disk purchase this go around, so I’ll wait for the next deep discount to hit if it is timely.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Omg I really have been out of the loop. I originally filled my 8 bay NAS with 6tb drives starting back in 2018. Once they would fill, i added another. 3 years ago, I finally ran out of space and started swapping out the 6tb for 10tb. Due to how it works, I needed to do 2 before I saw any additional space. I think i have 3 or 4 now, and the last one was 2 years ago. They did cost around $250 at the time, and I think i got 1 for just over $200. The fact that I can more than double that for only $300 is crazy news to me. Guess I am going to stop buying 10tb now. The only part that sucks is having to get 2 up front…
Armand1@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I got some 16TB drives recently for around $200 each, though they were refurbished. Usually a refurbished drive will save you 20-40%. Shipping can be a fortune though.
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Refurbished drives sound scary. Any data to point towards that not being a problem?
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I bought 8TB for something like $300. 36TB seems quite attractive.
JordanZ@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Depends on your use case. The linked drive according to seagate’s spec sheet is only rated for about ~6.5 power-on hours per day(2400 per year). So if just in your desktop for storage then sure. In an always (or mostly) on NAS then I’d find a different drive. It’ll work fine but expect higher failure rates for that use.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
Great, can’t wait to afford it in 60 years.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 22 hours ago
I’m amazed it’s only $800. I figured that shit was gonna be like 8-10 thousand.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Well, it’s a Seagate, so it still comes out to about a hundred bucks a month.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
Why do you wound me like this?
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Yeah, I expected it to level out around $800 after a few years, not out of the gate. 20TB are still $300 ish new.
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
It will take about 36 hours to fill this drive at 270mb/s
That’s a long time to backup your giraffe porn collection.
thesohoriots@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What kind of degenerate do you think I am? That’s 36 hours to back up my walrus porn collection.
billwashere@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How did you know about my giraffe porn?
ksigley@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How you 'bout to call me out like that ?
mrvictory1@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Me who stores important data on seagate external HDD with no backup reading the comments roasting seagate:
MintyAnt@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Uh oh!!! Uh oh uh oh uh oh uh oh
zapzap@lemmings.world 23 hours ago
This hard drive is so big that when it sits around the house, it sits around the house.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 22 hours ago
This hard drive is so big when it moves, the Richter scale picks it up.
dellish@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
This hard drive is so big when it backs up it makes a beeping sound.
ColdWater@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
with this I can store at least 3 modern “AAA” games
Psythik@lemmy.world 1 day ago
More like zero, cause modern AAA games require an NVME (or st least an SSD) and this is a good old fashioned 7200 RPM drive.
Mandragora@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh definitely, game sizes are getting extreme and I prefer smaller indie games now 🥲
daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I wanna fuck this HDD. To have that much storage on one drive when I currently have ~30TB shared between 20 drives makes me very erect.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 hours ago
twenty!?
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Average Lemmy user
daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Ain’t nothing about me is average except for the size of my cock.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
nephew
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 day ago
no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
I can certainly understand holding grudges against corporations. I didn’t buy anything from Sony for a very long time after their fuckery George Hotz and Nintendo’s latest horseshit has me staying away from them, but that was a single firmware bug that locked down hard drives (note, the data was still intact) a very long time ago. Seagate even issued a firmware update to prevent the bug from biting users it hadn’t hit yet, but firmware updates at the time weren’t really something people thought to ever do, and operating systems did not check for them automatically back then like they do now.
Seagate fucked up but they also did everything they could to make it right. That matters. Plus, look at their competition. WD famously lied about their red drives not being SMR when they actually were. And I’ve only ever had WD hard drives and sandisk flash drives die on me. And guess who owns sandisk? Western Digital!
I guess if you must go with a another company, there’s the louder and more expensive Toshiba drives but I have never used those before so I know nothing about them aside from their reputation for being loud.
needanke@feddit.org 18 hours ago
And I’ve only ever had WD hard drives and sandisk flash drives die on me
Maybe it’s confirmation bias but almost all memory that failed on me has been sandisk-flash storage. Zhe only exception being a corsair ssd which failed after 3 yrs as the main laptop drive + another 3 as a server boot and log-drive.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 22 hours ago
Every manufacturer has made a product that failed.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
but not every manufacturer has had class action lawsuits filed against their continued shitty products.
Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 9 hours ago
Some of Seagate’s drives have terrible scores on things like Blackblaze. They are probably the worst brand, but also generally the cheapest.
I have been running a raid of old Seagate barracuda’s for years at things point, including a lot of boot cycles and me forcing the system off because Truenas has issues or whatnot and for some fucking reason they won’t die.
I have had a WD green SSD that I use for Truenas boot die, I had some WD external drive have its controller die (the drive inside still work) and I had some crappy WD mismatched drives in a raid 0 for my Linux ISO’s and those failed as well.
Whenever the Seagate start to die, I guess ill be replacing them with Toshiba’s unless somebody has another suggestion.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
but then wd and their fake red nas drives with smr tech?
what else we have?
spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Wait… fake? I just bought some of those.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
I had a similar experience with Samsung. I had a bunch of evo 870 SSDs up and die for no reason. Turns out, it was a firmware bug in the drive and they just need an update, but the update needs to take place before the drive fails.
I had to RMA the failures. The rest were updated without incident and have been running perfectly ever since.
I’d still buy Samsung.
I didn’t lose a lot of data, but I can certainly understand holding a grudge on something like that. From the other comments here, hate for Seagate isn’t exactly rare.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Can someone recommend me a hard drive that won’t fail immediately? Internal, not SSD, from which cheap ones will die even sooner, and I need it for archival reasons, not speed or fancy new tech, otherwise I have two SSDs.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 day ago
If you’re relying on one hard drive not failing to preserve your data you are doing it wrong from the jump. I’ve got about a dozen hard drives in play from seagate and WD at any given time (mostly seagate because they’re cheaper and I don’t need speed either) and haven’t had a failure yet. Backblaze used to publish stats about the hard drives they use, not sure if they still do but that would give you some data to go off.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
I think refurbished enterprise drives usually have a lot of extra protection hardware that helps them last a very long time. Seagate advertises a mean time to failure on their exos drives of ~200 years with a moderate level of usage. I feel like it would almost always be a better choice to get more refurbished enterprise drives than fewer new consumer drives.
I personally found an 8tb exos on servedpartdeals for ~$100 which seems to be in very good condition after checking the SMART monitoring. I’m just using it as a backup so there isn’t any data on it that isn’t also somewhere else, so I didn’t bother with redundancy.
I’m not an expert, but this is just from the research I did before buying that backup drive.
daq@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Hard drives aren’t great for archival in general, but any modern drive should work. Grab multiple brands and make at least two copies. Look for sales. Externals regularly go below $15/tb these days.
Ushmel@lemmy.world 1 day ago
My WD Red Pros have almost all lasted me 7+ years but the best thing (and probably cheapest nowadays) is a proper 3-2-1 backup plan.
keen@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Elaborate please?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 day ago
eevblog.com/…/whats-behind-the-infamous-seagate-b…
this thread has multiple documented instances of poor QA and firmware bugs Seagate has implemented at the cost of their own customers.
my specific issue was even longer ago, 20+ years. there was a bug in the firmware where there was a buffer overflow from an int limit on runtime. it caused a cascade failure in the firmware and caused the drive to lock up after it ran for the maximum into limit. this is my understanding of it anyway.
the only solution was to purchase a board online for the exact model of your HDD and swap it and perform a firmware flash before time ran out. I think you could also use a clip and force program the firmware.
at the time a new board cost as much as a new drive, finances of which I didn’t have at the time.
eventually I moved past the 1tb of data I lost, but I will never willingly purchase another Seagate.
skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
In my case, 10+years ago I had 6 * 3tb Seagate disks in a software raid 5. Two of them failed and it took me days to force it back into the raid and get some of the data off. Now I use WD and raid 6.
I read 3 or 4 years ago that it was just the 3tb reds I used had a high failure rate but I’m still only buying WDs
needanke@feddit.org 18 hours ago
What is the usecase for drives that large?
I ‘only’ have 12Tb drives and yet my zfs-pool already needs ~two weeks to scrub it all. With something like this it would literally not be done before the next scheduled scrub.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 1 hour ago
It’s like the petronas towers, everytime they’re finished cleaning the windows they have to start again
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Jesus, my pool takes a little over a day, but I’ve only got around 100 gb how big is your pool?
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Data centers???
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That’s a lot of porn.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
That’s a lot of porn. And possibly other stuff, too.
Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sorry but without a banana for scale it’s hard to tell how big it really is
HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Defragmenting…
jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Seagate so how long before it fails?
regedit@feddit.online 1 day ago
Is it worth replacing within a year only to be sent a refurbished when it dies?
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Do you need it? Probably not. Do you want it? Oh, yeah.
I feel seen
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 day ago
Pretty sure I had a bigger hard drive than that for my Amiga. You could have broken a toe if you’d dropped it.
punkwalrus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah, but it’s Seagate. I have worked in data centers, and Seagate drives had the most failures of all my drives and somehow is still in business. I’d say I was doing an RMA of 5-6 drives a month that were Seagate, and only 4-5 a year Western Digital.
JordanZ@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Why did they make an enterprise grade drive SMR? I’m out.
elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Makes me shudder. I have to replace a drive in my array, because it is degraded. It’s a 4TB. Imagine having to replace one of these. I’d much rather have a bunch of cheaper drives, even if they are a bit more expensive per TB, because the replacement cost will eventually make the total cost of ownership lower.
shredslen@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Imagine having that…then dropping it…
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I’m gonna need like 6 of these
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I think if I needed to store 36TB of data, I would rather get several smaller disks.
Turret3857@infosec.pub 3 hours ago
Can’t wait to see this bad boy on serverpartdeals in a couple years if I’m still alive
Konstant@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
That goes without saying, unless you anticipate something.