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Tesla sales crash continues in Europe, with Germany down 70%
Submitted 4 weeks ago by btaf45@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://electrek.co/2025/03/05/tesla-tsla-sales-crash-continues-in-europe-with-germany-down-70/
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kokolores@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Djfok43@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Aren’t there alternatives to Paypal, like Wise and Revolut?
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 4 weeks ago
Do you need one?
I recently deleted my PayPal account and use a virtual credit card instead.
So far no issues with paying. In the rare case that credit card is not available you can always pay without account in PayPal via credit card.
LeTak@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Germany tries to make one every two years. The newest one is called Wero/kwitt
Snoopy@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
And wero from European paiement initiative that regroup all major french and german bank.
Tja@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
In Europe, sepa transfers are free and instant transfers will be mandatory free from October.
To pay in e-commerce, revolut has unlimited one-use cards, no need for PayPal.
Nightwish76@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Google Pay. Wise and Revolut are money wallet + transfer tools.
FluffyTailSociety@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Ah, I should have read down further. I’ll look those up.
Clanket@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I fully boycott Zuckerberg’s offerings bar WhatsApp coz the bastard bought it out from under us. Fuck him, fuck Meta
ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Agreed, though I don’t think Thiel is involved in Paypal anymore.
FluffyTailSociety@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Is there a Canadian version of paypal that works the same way? I was searching but couldn’t find one and ever since AI came around my business shrank to almost nothing. Also, other than having an old nearly defunct facebook account, what $ would I be unwittingly giving to Zuckerberg? Serious and naïve question.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Not quite but credit cards and Interac e-Transfer.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
PayPal blocked my account in like 2017 or something, never used it again
oyzmo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
If you buy a Tesla now, it says something about you as a person…
Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 4 weeks ago
I bought a Tesla years ago before Elon completely removed the mask.
No way I’d buy one now, but I also don’t want to sell it early and lose a tonne of money.
The Tesla board should intervene and remove him, but they won’t because he’s stacked it with yes men like his brother.
AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
In your defense, back then they were the only EV that wasn’t useless.
I have hated Tesla since day 1, but even still I had to admit that they had the only decent EV drivetrain.
Blindsite@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
If you have the money to buy a Tesla I don’t think you’re someone who cares what people think one way or the other. You don’t need to care about public opinion with that kind of income.
thrawn@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
What? A Model 3 starts at 42k (without the tax credit) or 299/mo for a lease. That’s below average for new cars in America, or significantly below average if you qualify for the tax credit. KBB says the average for a new car in December 2024 was nearly 50k.
And sure, not everyone can afford a new car, but very few Tesla buyers are “that kind of income” wealthy.
Aidinthel@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
Elon truly is a genius businessman. Letting him run the government is clearly a great idea.
hOrni@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s been said more than once, that Musk isn’t an asset to a company but a liability. Tesla didn’t succeed because of Musk but despite him.
Ulrich@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
I mean he’s become a whole lot richer. Tesla is just a casualty. Why he hasn’t been ousted from the board or sued by investors, I don’t understand.
abfarid@startrek.website 4 weeks ago
Lemmy, this is the 7th day in a row you’ve shown “Tesla sales down in Europe” news in Top.
Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Feel free to post other good news. I’ll be happy to upvote.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You can filter it out if you want. Whenever I read it I get warm fuzzies. It helps me cope.
abfarid@startrek.website 4 weeks ago
Doesn’t make my comment not true.
And I don’t filter or block anything or anyone. Rawdogging Lemmy, the way God intended.
1984@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
We have this, crap copied from twitter or crap copied from reddit. Take your pick. :)
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
linux linux foss linux
singletona@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Good.
Say what you will about faceless corps, but toyota won’t send some jackass out a the public face to do sieg hail, and be the gleeful butcher of government programs.
You have to be nestel levels of horrific before it breaks out of the corporate bubble.
echodot@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
I seriously question the mental stability of Tesla shareholders. Why an Earth does that mine still have a job?
I’m not even talking about this recent stuff, I’m talking about all the things he’s been doing for the last few years. It would get any normal person fired.
negativeyoda@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
He has family members and toadies on the board
TheBrit@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Gone from the coolest car to the most embarrassing, and these people are supposed to be smart.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
As a publicly traded US company, can’t the board of directors vote Elon out because of tanking sales? Seems like that’s the only way for the company to survive at this point.
Tja@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
In a normal company they could, but the board are all loyal to him, not the company. Recently they insisted in giving him a 50 BILLION bonus, yes, with B. No chance they will intervene. And putting a puppet CEO like at Twitter won’t have a strong effect either.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
He’ll still retain his shares. Which is the source of his wealth.
For my money I’m going to throw a goddamn party if this cursed stock hits double digits.
drmoose@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Cause everyone at Tesla is a spineless grifter too.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Does that still apply when the CEO is also Emperor of the United States?
MyOpinion@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Let’s get it to 90%. We can do it.
redlemace@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
go big or go home : 100%
Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 4 weeks ago
You can go to 110% if you burn enough tesla’s
xavier666@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
70% is just rookie numbers
Hejej@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Deliver is not the same as sales. They are also launching a new model this summer so people could just be waiting. I know it’s a great news story, Europe bands together against Musk to show dissatisfaction with American politics, but it may not be true. If someone could find Tesla reports that delivers are far lower than expected I will change my mind.
I wanted to find their predictions for production in Q1 2025 to see if they planned for less deliveries before all this Musk hit the news cycle. The closed I got as 2024 Q2 production numbers. ir.tesla.com/…/tesla-vehicle-production-deliverie…
Obelix@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
I mean… why wouldn’t all that is happening not have a effect on sales? Musk is the face of Tesla and Musks image has totally gone downhill for lots of people. He’s gone from “techbro genius” to “fascist” in a few months (!) in the public image and there is really not reason to doubt, that this won’t have an effect on sales.
criss_cross@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah I’ll believe it when I see the trend last more than a month or 2
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The only creatures that should buy a Tesla are from the fucking AfD.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Lol definitely won’t, they’re super anti-EV after all. I mean, they even want to get rid of all wind power plants. xD
Blooper@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
This is what makes Musk’s B-line towards Nazi stardom so strange to me. Like, did he think Nazis were suddenly going to start buying electric cars? They literally put nuts on their trucks right next to their bumper stickers using homosexual slurs to describe electric vehicles, all while “rolling coal” in front of every Tesla they see on the road.
These are the people you want to market to?
And at the expense of your existing market?nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
This is why I wouldn’t put it past them to try to hide the real sales numbers. Wouldn’t surprise me if they’re down 90+ percent and the company is effectively dead already. The board of directors are Elon’s creatures and their personal wealth will depend on keeping the facade (and stock price) up so they aren’t about to cry foul.
Maped@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
I live in one of the Eastern countries and surprisingly most tesla owners I see on the street are from Ukraine. We don’t even have developed infrastructure to use that car.
deltapi@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Because only rich Ukranians could afford them, and the rich ones fled Ukraine when the war kicked up.
oo1@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
And those from the fucking UK apparently.
Very similar though - just waiting for them to elect farage to gut UK public services.
houstoneulers@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
And the US tax payer is going to have to foot the bill on it…Elon sucks goldfish dick
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
I don’t think Elon gives a fuck. He’s tricked everyone he needs to into giving him billions of dollars. He isn’t going to give any of it back. He’s laughed all the way to the bank.
lostbit@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
he doesn’t, the american people getting ass fucked in broad daylight
sunfur82@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Feel the same way. He basically has the US Treasury now, and can do whatever he wants with his DOGE, I doubt he cares about Tesla.
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I don’t think he has to care, but I think he might. SpaceX and Tesla are the only 2 brands he regularly promotes as he hopes people forget about all the other stolen, idiotic ideas that have failed.
He has mentioned many times in the past how “owning a Tesla is fiscally responsible”. Considering DOGE and falling Tesla sales… it’s only a matter of time until he sees if he can push Tesla as “The American Car” subsidised by tax payers and potentially cheaper then other brands (due to tariffs)… I don’t put it past him to try to take over all the transportation in the country. He’s stopped pretending he isn’t just a super villain a while ago, so going out of our way to ensure that the most “affordable” car is his and cripple the nation further by literally controlling the means of transportation.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
So? You subsidised him since forever.
Not a peep when he demanded to keep his factories open in full Covid times or plenty more scummy things.
Only when he became a Trumper he was no longer great papa Elon for half of you.houstoneulers@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
What makes you think I wasn’t verbally critical of him? I was telling ppl that were praising him that he seemed to virtue signal and seemed shady back in 2017. I was told I was looking too much into it. But in retrospect…
Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Tesla is a meme stock in the disguise of a car company. It being down 30% means little, if anything volatility is good for big market players. Allows them to fleece more people. In a month Trump will announce a big tesla contract and it’ll go back up.
Or so I tell myself because pessimism is easier to live with.
tonytins@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
Brings a tear of joy.
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Beautiful news.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Well I don’t want to celebrate in advance, Model Y facelift just released, let’s hope this trend continues and doesn’t show a reversal.
pls@lemmy.plaureano.nohost.me 4 weeks ago
Good. 30% left to go.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
My heart pumps purple piss for fElon.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
They are on track to be worth less than BYD, the two will likely cross over quite soon.
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
pntha@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
the UK being the only growth market speaks volumes
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Not really. The UK is very anti-Musk.
Ireland and the UK being the only ones to grow is likely due to the way Tesla delivers Right-Hand Drive cars - they deliver them as one large batch each quarter rather than constantly trickling them out like LHD cars.
If you look at UK and Irish sales figures across multiple months, they swing between being up and down, depending on when RHD shipments come. Overall Tesla is down (and the UK even before Musk’s recent actions bought far fewer Tesla cars than France or Germany)
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Next, space x?
ringo32@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
In shorttime growth in a billion company…this is poisioness for tesla…elon all te blame…reminder of history is bad this company must be wiped out
takeda@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Each time I see a new article about drop in sales, the percentage is higher. I love it.
rhombus@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I keep thinking it’s same article being reposted before noticing the drop is 10-15% greater than the last time I saw it. I hope he’s kicked from Europe entirely.
cabbage@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
I think it's the first time in my life I routinely check in on the stock value of a company, and it's pure Schadenfreude.
Blooper@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
Trump media stock was fun to watch too up until he won. I mean it’s still going to crash and burn, but the election bought him some time.