Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.
No, votes should not be displayed public.
Blocking those who downvote creates further polarisation, echo chambers and an environment more hostile to discussion and honest exchange.
Following those who upvote creates personality cults and nepotism and devalues the content.
9point6@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hard no from me
I don’t want some nutjob with too much time stalking me because I upvoted something about climate change or downvoted some bigoted shit. We all know those fuckos are out there
Voting on Reddit-like platforms is soft moderation by a community, and if you disincentive that, the whole model kinda falls apart IMO
mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 month ago
Your votes are already public. It’s a matter of (a) do we want to make it slightly easier for the people who aren’t technically inclined to see them too (b) do we want people acting with the awareness that they’re public.
(a) doesn’t have a clear answer to me. The answer to (b), though, is clearly yes.
rimu@piefed.social 1 month ago
People say this all the time, but it's not really the case.
I don't think privacy is a binary thing that one either has or does not - there are degrees of privacy. Currently what we have is mostly private, requiring either technical skill or admin access to circumvent. This is a pretty high bar which 99% of people would not be able to reach. You're proposing removing the bar entirely because it is not high enough.
zerofk@lemm.ee 1 month ago
(b) will just lead to free up and down votes, i.e. less engagement. That in turn could lead to slowly bleeding out.
it_depends_man@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I would like a © where my instances collects all the votes on the post, and then transmits an anonymized aggregate.
socsa@piefed.social 1 month ago
My votes on piefed are not public. This dev took the obvious idea of a dedicated voting agent and implemented it in about 48 hours.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 month ago
I agree with you. I remember arguing about this a year ago when people first discovered votes were public on Kbin. I don’t want to obsess over who up- or downvoted me and I don’t want anyone else doing that either. Discussions are healthier when voting is anonymous (or at least obscured as is currently the case).
If bots become such an overwhelming problem that all regular users need access to voting records to better report all the bots I’ll maybe revisit my stance. But right now the gains seem dubious.
UniversalMonk@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m dealing with one right now! lol It’s crazy.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
You don’t even have serial downvoters. You just consistently post the worst possible political pisstakes repeatedly and constantly and nobody likes them when they run across it every time.
Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 month ago
If they’re a serial downvoter, then it’s easier for you to track them and block them as well. Double edged sword i think
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I thought blocks were one way - you can’t see anything from the person you blocked, but they can still see your stuff?
UniversalMonk@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s why I’d like it.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I downvoted SO much more on Reddit than I do here. The comment quality here is leagues better.
zecg@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s already public, it’s just lemmy users who don’t see them.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Yep. Same for me.
Xyre@lemmus.org 1 month ago
What might be interesting would be to have it displayed, but grouped by instance. That way we could see some data and potentially uncover troll instances or attempts to brigade the conversation without opening ourselves up to personal attacks.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Mod-admins are already doing this, even if you vote and don’t comment on something.
SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 month ago
Isn’t the obvious thing to just have it be an option that admins can enable or disable? Maybe have a third option for only showing upvotes? Then it’s up to each instance to decide, and users can decide to go to instances with the option their prefer.
index@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
They can read your comment history why would you care about them being able to see what you upvoted?
How does that disincentive it? It actually makes it better
9point6@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I specifically don’t comment on people that give off the vibe they might be one of those kind of nutjobs, precisely because it gives them a notification with my username attached if I do. I’m on this site to kill some time with low effort, I don’t want any risk of attracting the attention of some weirdo.
I downvote in those scenarios and then report if appropriate. If enough other users feel the same way the comment goes down to the bottom of the thread and fewer users see it. Especially if it’s something that a mod eventually removes, as it reduces the reach until a mod can get to it.
If I risk retaliation for doing that, I (and others) will just stop, meaning those comments stay up front and centre and we lose that soft moderation plus that engagement in general. Going into the comments will just end up being a worse experience