Looks like something straight from Warhammer 40K
Submitted 5 days ago by merari42@lemmy.world to [deleted]
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/74f63f33-732b-4bcb-80f3-708db6ab791b.jpeg
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Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 5 days ago
I went to a crypt in Britain as a kid, can’t remember where tf it was, but I still remember it because it was super interesting.
It’s where I learned about Trepanning and how they did it back in olden times to “let the bad spirits out” and it actually worked because it reduced swelling around the brain by giving the blood a way out.
BakerBagel@midwest.social 4 days ago
We still do that today, just with thr patient under anesthesia so they dont freak out about uaving a hole drilled in their skull.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Ha, cool.
pyrflie@lemm.ee 5 days ago
What do you think the Imperium was modeled after?
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
capucin- prefix comes from the Latin for “hood,” and by synecdoche means “monks” (who wear hoods)
Cafe Cappuccino has the same roots.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
This is correct. There’s actually a little plaque that has this explanation on it before you go into the crypt.
It’s this funny little Latin lesson before you descend into skeleton catacomb are confronted with the living memory that you too are temporary.
pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 4 days ago
synecdoche
I didn’t like that movie.
RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 5 days ago
Yeah, that one is definitely a sight to see, if you can stand looking at dead people’s bones.
FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 4 days ago
if you can stand looking at dead people’s bones
I much prefer it to looking at alive people’s bones
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
I’m fine with them. I went through that whole catacomb and then went through the others.
They have a lot of bony vaults and tunnels and catacombs in Italy
Theme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
“Hey, who turned out the lights?”
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 days ago
In a helmet, suit and everything, holy shit.
halvar@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Just watched that episode for the first time and somehow it didn’t even occur to me
MonkderDritte@feddit.de 5 days ago
I bet it isn’t really Magdalene.
pyrflie@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Considering Catholic practices only the stupidest adherents would. You betcha they pulled a bitch Roman Catholics hated out of Syria to enshrine in Rome 50 years after the fact; during a civil war.
TheRaven@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Chances are, it isn’t. The early Catholic Church did a lot of this kind of thing, where they would claim to have a piece of the cross, or a bone of St Peter in a church. It was just to drive tourism into their churches. If you took all the claimed pieces of the cross and assembled them, it would make far more than one cross.
MonkderDritte@feddit.de 4 days ago
Not only early, they did such things in medieval times too.
Argh, what was it again. I’ve read about something the catholic church used in switzerland in 14. or 15. century for this.
yemmly@lemmy.world 4 days ago
How much?
Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The alleged skull of Mary Magdalene.
merari42@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I like Martin Luther’s polemic about relics: “How many pieces of the true cross are there in the world? How many thorns from Christ’s crown of thorns? How many nails from the crucifixion? There are enough nails to shoe all the horses in Saxony. And if all the relics of the saints were gathered together, there would be enough bones to build a ship and enough wood to boil all the water in the sea.”
In that sense it’s one of Mary Magdalene’s many heads.
Justas@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
“Of the 12 apostles, 18 of them are buried in Spain.”
TheKingBee@lemmy.world 4 days ago
IDK their religion allows straight up substitution magic, they turn wine and crackers into pieces of their dead god. Why can’t thorns and pieces of wood turn into the implements that killed him?
MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
She is the hydra.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 4 days ago
If you sewed together all the fragments of Jesus’s foreskin, you could go skydiving with it.
MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
She is the hydra.
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 5 days ago
As someone who grew up in a Muslim country, I have to say, Westerners this is some weird shit man. Like, call the police weird. We are supposed to be the barbarians yet you get to have skull thrones and shit? WTF?
retrospectology@lemmy.world 5 days ago
All the Abrahamic religions are death cults. It’s just as morbid as muslim sects that force women to dress head to toe black robes or w/e. The extremism just becomes part of the scenery when you’re around it, but it’s all objectively bizzare.
Like think about it, these religions were literally invented by bronze age goat herds who thought the earth was flat and covered by a dome, and people in the modern day still believe in them. It’s literally group insanity.
Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 4 days ago
How to say that you have no idea about Abrahamic religions without saying that you have no idea about Abrahamic religions.
The Bronze Age ended around 1200 BC. 1200 Before Christ. Most of the prophets of the Torah are estimated to have lived around 1000 BC up until Jesus was born. Mohammed s.a.s. lived in the 7th century AD.
Also if your argument is that something originating in the bronze age is bad, i recommend you to stop using metal tools, eat bread and cultivated fruits. Obviously no beer and while you are at it reject math, astronomy and most of architecture. All stuff originating in the Bronze Age.
pyrflie@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Dude these sprang from Mesopotamian/Egyptian necropoli.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 days ago
The whole point of religion was to keep the psychopaths in control. Sometimes you had to throw them a bone to keep them in line.
nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 4 days ago
ha.
RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
Religion is heavily intertwined with barbarism. The West/Christian countries have dumped more than their fair share on the world.
Holzkohlen@feddit.de 4 days ago
Sure it is. Let’s just pretend there is no monetary incentive for a region to have a holy relic which brings them a bunch of tourism. Ain’t nothing holy under capitalism.
TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Every single consecrated Catholic altar contains a relic of a saint. Usually they’re pretty small, maybe a piece of a fingerbone or something. You’re right that a good one like this would bring in lots of pilgrims (tourist dollars,) but it’s a tradition that way predates capitalism.
I’m not in the business of defending the Catholic Church or capitalism, just wanted to clarify.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 days ago
Socialists don’t see a fundamental difference between a king or church owning the means of production and a merchant/capitalist/whatever owning it, because there isn’t a significant difference. Adam Smith was observing truths on the nature of property ownership and how to increase the gains from such, not describing the idea of rich and powerful people owning property that would make them money by exploiting the value of labor. That idea is as old as agriculture.
Where it might get tricky is if the gains from owning the “relic” were funding welfare programs/charity more than they were funding the excessive lifestyle of the clergy, but that’s not something Catholics are particularly known for living up to, responsible usage of tithes and actually following the precepts of ascetism in the clergy.
samus12345@lemmy.world 4 days ago
redempt@lemmy.world 4 days ago
exactly where my mind went
saltesc@lemmy.world 5 days ago
You shall make no idols to yourselves; and you shall not set up for yourselves graven images, or a memorial pillar. And you shall not set up any image of stone in your land in order to bow down to it. For I am Jehovah your God.
He went pretty ape shit about the golden cow—as believable any part of that story goes. Catholics seem to be all about idoloc knick-knacks and getting all stabby and controlling over them… Like, the opposite of what a Christian is meant to do.
Technus@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
That’s one of the fundamental disagreements between Catholics and Protestants.
A Catholic would argue that veneration of saints isn’t worship, it’s showing respect for someone who exemplified Christian ideals, or died as a martyr. Canonization is basically the religious version of the Medal of Honor.
A Protestant would argue that the distinction between veneration and worship is arbitrary, and veneration of a saint essentially amounts to idolatry anyway.
Zehzin@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I see people praying to a specific Saint all the time. Are they supposed to be the middle man between you and God? Didn’t Jesus die specifically for that?
ameancow@lemmy.world 4 days ago
And here I am over here, an agnostic absurdist, just laughing at the silly monkeys.
pyrflie@lemm.ee 5 days ago
When Luther brought that up it started a global trade/religious war that last over 100 years.
Ideas are a life and death matter since people are willing to kill over them. Never underestimate the religious, they are as dangerous as they are stupid.
MintyFresh@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I think that’s what a lot of people miss is the trade/political aspect of schism. While I’m sure millions held genuine beliefs, it’s hard to understate the economic reality of the church in those days. Huge land holdings, an ancient web of power and obligations reaching into every life, every transaction, every political appointment. When it became conceivable to break with this system, it was broken. This breaking was Consequential. Hence the centuries of warfare and strife. It’s all about that money honey.
mholiv@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I’m a secular person now but as a formally very religious person I know a bad Bible translation when I see it.
Assuming you a referring to Leviticus 26:1 a better translation from the NIV is:
Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.
Given this I can see how Catholics can justify having statues and art and the like.
In case you don’t like the NIV here is a meta comparison.
saltesc@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Ah, we were taught to avoid the NIV as it was like the Merrium-Webster of translation; a bit more adapted for the modern Pentecost, so obviously it would be lenient compared to traditional translations.
edinbruh@feddit.it 5 days ago
But saints are not gods, they are more like emissaries. You pray for them to bring your word to God.
But in the end, religious beliefs don’t make sense anyway, so why bother analyzing contradictions. Faith is based on believing without needing proof, so any logic reasoning against religion fails against that statement.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Blood for the Blood God!
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 days ago
That Jesus guy sure is a bloodthirsty one.
Zehzin@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Hideo Kojima: Hmmm
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Something I always love to add to these sorts of threads:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles
It expresses the view that the current aeonic civilization is that of the Western world, but it claims that the evolution of this society is threatened by the “Magian/Nazarene” influence of the Judeo-Christian religion, which the Order seeks to combat in order to establish a militaristic new social order, which it calls the “Imperium”. According to Order teachings, this is necessary in order for a galactic civilization to form, in which “Aryan” society will colonise the Milky Way.
It’s beyond heresy.
creditCrazy@lemmy.world 4 days ago
There’s a lot of fantasy settings id like to live in but Warhammer is not one of them especially anything imperium related
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
IDK that Taussy be looking real tempting.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
Lots of child abuse going on related to O9A, theyre evil fucks
volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 4 days ago
It’s beyond heresy.
Well ok but this ONA has nothing to do with Christianity, they explicitly state it’s a militant Satanic left-hand path occultist network. I mean being Satanic kinda goes hand in hand with heresy.
As with many other occult organisations, the Order shrouds its history in “mystery and legend”, creating a “mythical narrative” for its origins and development. The ONA claims to be the descendant of pre-Christian pagan traditions which survived the Christianisation of Britain and were passed down from the Middle Ages onward in small groups or “temples”
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 4 days ago
For sure, I totally agree with what you’re saying. I was only using the word in the 40k version where nearly everything is hersasy, not the sensible version of the word youre using.
Thcdenton@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I want a late 90s RTS portraying galactic battles between the nexions of this lunatics.
Something like dune2000…
I imagine a sci fi version of the London’s police and the INDD (Intergalactic Net of Drug Dealers) should also be added as factions
Zozano@lemy.lol 4 days ago
I don’t know how the Christians see this and think anything other than “this is some evil shit”.
ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
I don’t know how Christians read the Old Testament and think anything other than “This is some evil shit.”
Zozano@lemy.lol 4 days ago
I don’t know how Christians eat the flesh and drink the blood and don’t think anything other than “I’m in a fucking cannibal cult”.
MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
The book of Job is wild, I remember as a kid thinking this is my god?
user1234@lemmynsfw.com 5 days ago
I never realized she was an astronaut. They don’t teach you that in Sunday school.
Rayspekt@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Make an animatronic out of it.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Insert a 1 euro coin and the skull will sing your favorite hymn.
Rayspekt@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Make it the meme Skeletor quotes and I’m in.
halvar@lemm.ee 5 days ago
I hear that’s been an issue of debate in the Vatican since around the 70s and one of the cardinals is very keen on summoning a council to settle it.
burretploof@lemmy.world 4 days ago
That’s metal as hell- I mean, heaven!
rozodru@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Looks like something the Deacons of the Deep would be protecting right next to the massive empty tomb.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 days ago
The Moment i realised the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
yemmly@lemmy.world 4 days ago
And I’m supposed to believe people paid good money for a blowie from that face?
Actually, nevermind, I believe it.
sirico@feddit.uk 4 days ago
Even in death I still serve
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Why not just add a calf somewhere?
Iloveyurianime@ani.social 4 days ago
Imagine that place being abandoned and a explorer accidently shining light on that skull…
Hugin@lemmy.world 4 days ago
40K does loves to grab imagery from old christian imagery for the Imperium.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 days ago
That’s so punk
solomon42069@lemmy.world 4 days ago
It looks like it’s gonna give the Doctor and the TARDIS a hard time this week.
boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Dontputyourdickinthat
nowitsabby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
Where do you think 40k got it
pyrflie@lemm.ee 5 days ago
It’s like they haven’t studied history or ready any 40K.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Luther was not friendly