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• PeleSpirit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Shit, this isn’t really that funny when you find out what happened. Welder’s Eye can make you permanently blind.

  Some ApeFest attendees posted on X (formerly Twitter) after seeking medical attention, with one person reporting that they had been diagnosed with Photokeratitis — aka, “welder’s eye,” a condition caused by unprotected exposure to ultraviolet radiation — and another saying the issue was a result of UV from the stage lights, leading to speculation that the injuries were caused by improper lighting used at the event.

  “I woke up at 04:00 and couldn’t see anymore,” said @CryptoJune777. “Had so much pain and my whole skin is burned. Needed to go to the hospital.”

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  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve experienced this, though I aquired it the old school way; from welding.

    Mine was luckily a minor case and went away in a day. Quite literally feels like you have sand in your eyes. Moved from safety squints into welding mask then.

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    • CountVon@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      When I took welding shop class in high school, our shop teacher literally called it “sand eye” when he explained why wearing a welding mask was not optional in his shop or in general while welding. Sure enough, there was that one kid who thought he could get by with his squints while teach wasn’t looking… He was out for days with sand eye and had quite the cautionary tale to share when he returned. Everyone got downright religious about the welding masks after that.

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    • Yawnder@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m glad it went away sir!

      Also, I would never laugh at you getting that, especially since welding is something quite useful for society, inline NFTs 😛

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  • circuscritic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thank you for saying this, it’s what I was coming here to do.

    I was laughing, until I read the article. It’s fucking horrifying. Schadenfreude should be proportional.

    NFT morons losing their money? Hilarious.

    Losing their eyesight? Not funny. Not proportional. Just horrific.

    Now, if the Nazi fetishizing scam artist asshats that run BoredApe were blinded by the light at their own convention? That, in my view, would be proportional Schadenfreude.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photokeratitis

      Healing is usually rapid (24–72 hours) if the injury source is removed.

      So… it’s unlikely to be permanent blindness, just temporary eye pain. I feel pretty OK at laughing at them for that.

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    • cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      nazi fetishizing?

      not doubting you, but… go on…

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  • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Something can be both sad and funny.

    Like it really sucks for the victims but it’s also darkly hilarious that every single time these libertariany scammy I’m smarter than everyone types do a thing they get an abject lesson in why communities have like safety rules and “red tape”.

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    • dasgoat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is such a good way of putting it. Yes it’s fucked up, but man it’s also funny as shit.

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    • cricket98@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      what are you going on about libertarianism? this group is almost certainly not libertarian, they are more hypebeast/streetwear adjacent.

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If they were libertarians they would sue the event so much that this never happens again. Unfortunately, this happens at nightclubs too.

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  • ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Shit hurts. It feels like you have sand in your eye. For days.

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    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thin slices of raw potato on your eyes helps.

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  • creditCrazy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You’d think they were already blind with all a crappy art they are shilling for

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    • jungle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “art”

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  • Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    what the actual fuck

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  • DJDarren@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As a former welder, I’ve had arc-eye and it’s really unpleasant - like someone put sand in my eyes and I couldn’t get it out.

    However, it heals pretty quickly, so I’m gonna carry on thinking this is pretty funny.

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    • PeleSpirit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      On job sites they told me that it was permanent, were they fucking with me?

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• harry_balzac@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “All 5 attendees were treated on scene. Paramedics were originally very concerned about brain damage but were relieved when they saw the name of the event. ‘Can’t fry an egg that’s not there,’ stated one.”

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• nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  the event’s DJ later discovering lighting used mainly for disinfection purposes had been installed at the venue

  idiots

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  • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This was referring to a different event at a different venue. While it seems likely that they made the same mistake, it’s best we wait for more info before jumping to conclusions.

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  • derpgon@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Read the full paragraph:

    Similar symptoms, which include sunburn and waking up to severe, burning eye pain, were reported in 2017 by partygoers who attended a Hypebeast event at The Landmark commercial complex also in Hong Kong, with the event’s DJ later discovering lighting used mainly for disinfection purposes had been installed at the venue. The Landmark venue did not feature on the ApeFest event plan, and the two incidents appear unrelated.

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• ryan@the.coolest.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yuga Labs says it’s currently investigating reports of impeded vision and skin/eye injuries believed to be caused by unprotected exposure to UV lights during ApeFest 2023.

  Jesus Christ.

  Anyway, I'm... Actually somewhat impressed they're still having Monkey PNG meetups. I kind of assumed every NFT was a scam but this one is just a very expensive buy-in to a cryptonerd club, I guess.

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  • BURN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I also kinda figured the people who are into the Monkey PNGs aren’t exactly the ones who go to setups

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    • sab@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think it's more that they tend not to get invited to non-monkey PNG meetups. Possibly in part due to their habit of turning any meetup into a monkey PNG one.

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    • radix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Have to go out there and put in the work to proselytize their Lord and Savior Blockchain.

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    • db2@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sure they are, they’re just always nervous Chris Hansen is going to be there already.

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  • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I kind of assumed every NFT was a scam

    This one hasn’t yet proven that it isn’t, just that the people who bought in had a lot of disposable income to begin with.

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  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    NFTs have a number of interesting legitimate use cases. Jpeg pump-and-dumps are, however, not one of them.

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    • ryan@the.coolest.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The thing about the jpg ones is that the jpgs can't be stored in the blockchain, so what is actually stored is a URL to some server (and that URL endpoint could be redirected elsewhere, the server could go offline, etc).

      The other major use case I see touted is "own your game objects and bring your objects to different games" but 1) why would a company spend resources supporting an object they did not sell you and 2) could this not be handled more simply on e.g. Steam? (yes, locked into a service, but that's just the way the industry is and I don't see why it's worth the time and effort for them to change that)

      I do see how potentially a blockchain that stored actual data, e.g. some JSON, could be of more use. However, I struggle to find cases where just a regular database wouldn't be more practical. I guess it would be limited to cases where auditability and visibility of changes are topmost concerns, and where it's important that anyone can have a local backup copy at any time.

      If you have some examples of where this technology could be one of the best solutions, I'd love to hear them. The blockchain does fascinate me but I feel like it's often a solution in search of a problem rather than the other way around.

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  • IndiBrony@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sunken cost fallacy at this point. They have to keep believing it’s a thing otherwise they have to face the reality that they were duped.

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    • registrert@lemmy.sambands.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or the opposite, they know it’s dropping like a stone so they try to keep it relevant for potential buyers to offload it to?

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  • EnderMB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sunk cost, I guess. A lot of people in the crypto industry are still here because they don’t want to admit that they were wrong about it.

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• TimeSquirrel@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Regardless of what you think of NFTs, somebody needs to held accountable for this. It could happen at any show or production. Someone clearly chose the Aliexpress special over safety.

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  • whileloop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Right? I don’t know anything about Welder’s Eye, but I know ultraviolet light is invisible to humans, so I’d imagine that most people present wouldn’t notice anything wrong until hours later. Once you know this can happen, you just have to trust that all the places you go aren’t putting your health at risk. Insane.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Once you know this can happen, you just have to trust that all the places you go aren’t putting your health at risk.

      Libertarian Jesus will somehow figure out how to handle that.

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    • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I knew this could happen. Result is that I don’t go to events when I think the organizer is grossly incompetent.

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  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Though I’d say that this is completely on brand. Goes and does something without understanding exactly what they are doing, causing damage to others who had even less of an idea of what’s going on.

    And a chance someone actually knew exactly what they were doing and did it to deliberately fuck over the attendees.

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• kautau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The funniest thing is the embeded tweet in the article that still has a stupid boredape avatar, has the “i simp for elon” blue checkmark, and the classic “[username].eth” username so you know they are really fun at parties while they try to grift their friends and family

  Cryptobros are such a strange cult

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  • Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No hate to the organizers they say after the organizers make them potentially blind with skin cancer.

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• Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If people who bought some pictures are renderd blind at a party about those pictures, that irony would be so perfect.

  Imagine buying NFTs and then going blind.

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  • Snapz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But they didn’t buy pictures… They bought receipts with URLs that direct to copies of pictures that they have no actionable rights on.

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    • Halosheep@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s funny how many people think an nft is owning the image, but you don’t even have that. You have a link to an image.

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    • fedditurus_est@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s not true. At least in the case of BAYC the terms of use even give you a commercial license: iii. Commercial Use. Subject to your continued compliance with these Terms, Yuga Labs LLC grants you an unlimited, worldwide license to use, copy, and display the purchased Art for the purpose of creating derivative works based upon the Art (“Commercial Use”).

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• ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  However you feel about NFTs… this is horrifying for the people who were there. They’ve been in some cases permanently blinded by this absurd level of incompetence.

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  • AeonFelis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The suffering of others brings me no joy, but it does sometimes bring me amusement.

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  • HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They’ve been in some cases blinded by this absurd level of incompetence.

    Just as they were to the stupidity of NFTs?

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    • ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Zing. You made the joke.

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  How on earth do you accidentally buy medical grade lighting? Like it must have been really expensive and no one at any point that “why are these light bulbs so expensive”. Also, why didn’t the shipping company think it was weird that a hospitality venue they wanted hundreds and hundreds of medical decontamination lights?

  And presumably electricians fitted them and their non-standard design didn’t raise any eyebrows?

  Literally everyone involved in this story is a massive idiot.

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  • You999@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    UV-c lights are actually pretty cheaper than UV black lights as they don’t require the phosphor coating required to block the harmful frequencies. On top of that there was a flood of UV-c bulbs onto the market from the pandemic.

    What really should have tipped them off that they are using bulbs is that UV-c bulbs emit a more blue color whereas black lights emit a purple color. Or the wierd smell emitting from the ozone coming off the bulbs.

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yep, UV-C LEDs are insanely cheap. I bought dozens on eBay a few years ago.

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  • Raxiel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    IKR? If anyone would have a good understanding of the value of things, it would be NFT buyers

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  • PurplePropagule@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Like it must have been really expensive and no one at any point that “why are these light bulbs so expensive”.

    We’re talking about people who have absurd amounts of money. I know a rich guy and he doesn’t even blink at spending $10k+ on some things. It’s just inconsequential.

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Says on the box ‘may cause skin to peel’, these should be good.”

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• demesisx@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  For anyone confused by the low-hanging-fruit NFT comments that don’t actually talk about what actually happened: The event was in Hong Kong and UV disinfectant lights were likely used by ignorant, frugal event lighting staff.

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  • ElleChaise@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I like that you came to set the record straight, then just guessed. Confidence is sexy.

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    • demesisx@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The article also came to no conclusion, though they did point to an event that also happened in 2017 where this happened and the culprit was… what I “guessed”. I’m sexy and I know it. 😜

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    • thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah above commenter is just making shit up, that was a different event

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  • abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Far more likely they just used ordinary stage lights where “huh, if I set channel 4 to full intensity I get a pretty purple, lets use that one”. The manual probably included a safety warning, that channel 4 must not be shined onto people for more than 30 seconds or so in each event… but who reads the manual?

    Pro tip: if you see the guy a white or fluorescent colours glow really bright… get the fuck out of the room unless you have absolute faith in the workplace health and safety policies of the venue and lighting operator. The UV won’t blind you instantly but it will blind you very quickly if it’s too bright and you won’y know how bad it is until hours later.

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    • towerful@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve never encountered lights that don’t have UV filters in them.
      There’s no way to control the UV filter via DMX/Artnet/sACN. It’s a fixed dichroic filter in front of the discharge lamp. It’s an extremely cheap filter, as well, so I doubt it would be excluded from cheapo knock-off brand lights.
      Certainly on any light available in the US and EU. It just won’t get certified for sale.

      Besides which, I haven’t used a discharge lamp in years. It’s all LED now, even the cheap stuff.

      There is no way “set channel 4 to full” would disable any safety features in a moving light that would allow it to output damaging UV light. And the only other way it would hurt someone is if it was focussed on them, and they actively stared into it. Like, staring at the sun kind of level of staring at a light.

      So, get rid of that “ordinary stage lights” pish.

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      This is absolutely a case of “we should get UV lights”. And instead of getting safe UV cannons for fun florescent paints, they got UV disinfectant lights. Probably still makes florescent paints glow, but it’s the wider band UV stuff designed to kill biological cells (ie disinfect). Which is exactly what it did to people’s skin and retina.

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, some event organizers will absolutely use disinfection lights because they’re pretty. I found the bigclive video where he talks about that happening at a Hong Kong fashion show.

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  • thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s not actually true, if you read the article more closely that’s referring to a different event where disinfectant lights were used. Not at this event.

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  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This isn’t even the first time this has happened. thebigclive talked about how event organizers at a fashion show setup disinfectant lights for the pretty purple light. One of the attendees figured out what happened quickly the next morning and rushed to the venue to take pictures before the lights were thrown out.

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Who would go to this?

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  • roboticide@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Presumably people who bought NFTs. If you’re going to trick yourself into thinking your dumb, AI-generated piece of shitty “art” was a worthwhile investment, you might as well enjoy the perks of being in such an exclusive, stupid club.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They weren’t even AI generated. Is there a AI generated at least they’d be unique from each other, there were a series of randomly lead images. It wasn’t AI that made them, it was basically just a bunch of if statements.

      AI generated NFTs would also be pointless because anyone could get them or something very similar by giving the same prompt to an AI but at least they’d have some merit, at least they would be interesting.

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    • cricket98@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      it’s just a party lol who doesn’t like parties

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  • arc@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The incurably stupid and grifters.

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• EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I dislike NFTs as much as the next person but this is messed up. Even worse that it isn’t the first time. And how the heck did they get their hands on germicidal UV lamps without being aware of the difference, and the safety concerns?

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well their corneas are now free of germs

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• rustyfish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You guys know that bug when lemmy throws a 2 year old post into your feed? That’s what I thought happened when I saw this post. Huh.

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• Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have a feeling the internet is going really enjoy sharing the “Crypto fans have eyes burned by NFTs” headlines. It’s a perfect storm of schadenfreude

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• lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  New DRM tech prevents safe viewing without express written consent from the owner.

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• Rayspekt@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Please move this to nottheonion.

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• Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  …with one person reporting that they had been diagnosed with Photokeratitis

  My insomnia-addled brain first read this as “Telekinesis” for a second.

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• Holyginz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hard to feel too much sympathy for anyone involved with NFT bullshit.

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• mojo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  rip bozo

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• AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Talk about blinding yourself with greed.

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• Pxtl@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Libertarians gonna libertarian.

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• bit_thanos@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The fall of the house of Usher vibe

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• stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Bigclive made a video about UV after a similar event i China:

  youtu.be/CpRMud6EFtE

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• kworpy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s hard to not laugh while reading this article, and it’s also hard to feel bad for the victims if you ask me.

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• Erika2rsis@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Of all the industries to profit from bored ape NFTs, white cane manufacturing was not one of them.

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• TheUnicornOfPerfidy@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So just to point this out again, we all know they’re terrible because they’re an incredibly racist troll too right? www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpH3O6mnZvw

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• evldead123@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Did Mike Flanagan write this episode?

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• burgersc12@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Were they too drugged out to realize their eyes and skin were literally burning?

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