Linux vs Windows tested in 10 games - Linux 17% faster on Average

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• BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Windows has so much garbage overhead via telemetry, etc. Glad to see someone quantifying how detrimental it is.

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  • taaz@biglemmowski.win ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    AVs on windows also do impact disk latency a lot.

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    • TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not to also mention the outdated filesytem

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  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Windows telemetry CPU usage is almost nothing. This is mostly proton/dxvk doing it’s magic.

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• AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Steam Deck and Proton have done wonders for Linux compatibility efforts.

  However looking at NEW releases I actually want to play, many launch barely working on windows let a lone via proton / emulation. My back catalog has great support but we need more titles launching with official support.

  The worst thing has to be all of the “launchers / game stores” JUST GIVE US GAMES!

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  • Crashumbc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Even “good” companies like BG3 makers. Are masking it harder to play without signing into their launcher.

    There’s an extra screen now, which is extremely unintuitive to get to, to skip their launcher sign in :(

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    • optissima@possumpat.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Just add this to your launch parameters:

      --skip-launcher
      

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• netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well, that’s what happens when you don’t have crazy spyware services running in the background. Also Windows, just like any Microsoft product, is very inefficient and wastes lots of resources.

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• gondezee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Limited to amd though, yea? Nvidia still holding back their drivers?

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  • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nvidia is their own worst enemy as regards Linux. When everyone realizes games work better under Linux and AMD, nVidia will be crying outside the gate. We’re 5 years into Proton, in another 5 years there won’t be a game that doesn’t run better on Linux.

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    • mindlight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      When everyone realizes games work better under Linux and AMD, nVidia will be crying outside the gate.

      So you think Microsoft spends 8 billion dollars acquiring Bethesda Game Studios, Arkane Studios, id Software, MachineGames, Tango Gameworks, ZeniMax Online Studios in 2020 and then proceeds to spend 68 billion dollars on acquiring Activision Blizzard…

      … just to stand on the sidelines watching everyone drop Windows as a gaming platform?

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    • PorkTaco@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      nVidia will be crying outside the gate

      Yeeeeaaah I really doubt it sorry

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    • rurutheguru@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Linux performance with proton has increased so drastically in recent years, your statement can be taken as wishful thinking at first, but there is a definite trend and I agree that Linux will probably be the powerhouse of gaming in coming years.

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    • HerrLewakaas@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Lol I swear lemmy users are the most delusional bunch

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    • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We’re 5 years into Proton, in another 5 years there won’t be a game that doesn’t run better on Linux.

      Insh’allah :D (* I’m an atheist, but the phrase is kind of fitting)

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  • coolmule0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fully usable with NVidia. I can play all the games I want at the same graphical settings as Windows. (Nvidia 1080)

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    • DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s because you’re using fairly old hardware, anything in the 2000-series and up doesn’t work very well.

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  • K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have a 1660 and every game ive played on linux does run better and getting the nvidia drivers wasnt that hard

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• Corgana@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Man, I am really looking forward to fully ditching Windows.

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  • JTskulk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s no time better than the present 😀 Windows free since April!

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    • Corgana@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nice! What distro did you go with? I’ve been really enjoying Zorin.

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  • Rootiest@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I finally pulled the trigger (again, hopefully for good this time) after a nonconsensual Windows update corrupted my disk and my bitlocker recovery key was not accepted.

    That was a couple months ago now and I’m happy to report that not only is gaming on Linux loads better than last time I tried this but I can corroborate that many of my games also perform better on Linux

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  • qaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Been dual-booting for about 4 years. It might be time to remove the Windows partition and use a VM though because I only use Windows a few times a year (just once this year for installing it).

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    • Corgana@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same, except I have two OS drives I swap between. Photoshop and Launchbox are all that’s really keeping me anymore.

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• vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Considering for most games it’s 100% slower, I’m not cheering just yet.

  The issue is support not performance.

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  • shiroininja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Every game I’ve bought this year has ran perfectly in Linux. And I don’t check the Linux status before I buy them. Yolo has paid off

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    • TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same here, the only games that don’t work are the ones that’s ship with anti cheats the behave like root kits (I really nasty type of malware).

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    • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In my experience, most games either don’t work at all (very rare), or work 99% as well as on Windows. For instance, I’m playing Hitman WoA right now, and opening the Steam overlay makes the game run in slow motion until I restart it, and it goes in the single-digit FPS if my laptop is charging. Very rarely does a game runs better on Linux than Windows.

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    • Sanguine@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same. I think 80% of my pre existing library already worked and then every game ive bought since the switch runs perfect. I used to check protondb first, now I just yolo and add my report later.

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  • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Uuuh, the compatibility percentage is way past 50%, can’t use the word “most” anymore.

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  • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Probably not most anymore but still plenty of them.

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  • burliman@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Exactly. I don’t care much for Windows bloat, but if 100% of games run on Windows and even 99% of games run on Linux, I’m sticking with Windows for gaming. It’s just that simple. If that ever reverses, then I’ll switch to Linux for gaming.

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    • Hexarei@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m ok with not having access to the 1% of games out there that want to act like rootkits

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• arc@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It must be very hard to exactly compare games between Windows and Linux because it’s possible that emulation in Proton, WINE or the driver means some settings or extensions might not be enabled even if they appear to be. DirectX emulation is also bound to slow things down so a game probably has to be use OpenGL or Vulkan directly.

  So while I can well believe that Linux can keep up and possibly exceed Windows, it needs a careful technical eye to ensure a true comparison is happening.

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  • IntrepidIceIgloo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wine is not an emulator

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    • arc@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wine is an emulator. It might not have started as such when it was winelib but it is now, especially when running binaries. If in doubt read their own FAQ.

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    • dbilitated@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      but the E literally stands for emulator

      (I’m kidding)

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  • nathris@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s getting hard to do just between AMD and Nvidia on Windows.

    I’m old enough to remember the days when reviewers showed macro shots of the wires in half life 2 to test AA between different cards.

    Does anyone even test that enabling “Ultra” settings results in the same configuration across vendors/generations? I’m pretty sure LTT Labs found cases where it wasn’t.

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    • LinusOnLemmyWld@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      ltt labs, good one

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• Resol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My next gaming PC is gonna be Linux. There, I said it.

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  • kava@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Virtually any computer that isn’t Apple Silicon can install Linux on it and it’ll run smoother and faster than Win or Mac.

    People who are anti-Linux either don’t understand computers or are traumatized from the early 2000s

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    • Resol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Can’t Apple Silicon run some program called Parallel Desktops or something? Is there a Linux distro that has an ARM version?

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    • MenacingPerson@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Apple Silicon

      I thought asahi was pretty mature now?

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    • Thetimefarm@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Even Apple silicone has a version of Fedora that works pretty well. Give it 10 years and I bet old Apple silicone machines will be faster on linux just like a lot of the older x86 macbooks are now.

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  • Kittenstix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You know it’s super easy to change your operating system right? Lol

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    • Resol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not.

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  • Swarfega@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why not your current one?

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    • Resol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because it’s not meant for gaming anyway

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  • infreq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Liar

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    • Resol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We’ll see

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  • SpookySnek@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I just dual boot

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    • Resol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would do that, at least until I get accustomed to Linux

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  • iFarmGolems@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s not gonna. Game support is bad.

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    • Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Another illiterate lemming, tsk tsk

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• felixwhynot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s great and all, but can I still pirate games on Linux? (Don’t judge me)

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  • K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah just add the game as a non steam game to steam and click play.

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s better I fact. There’s a lot less worry about installing a virus.

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    • deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      (Not so) fun fact, a lot of Windows viruses work under Wine on Linux. If you have ransomware bundled with your pirated media, it will likely also encrypt your Linux files.

      Use Bottles as a Flatpak, isolate all your applications from each other and from your host system.

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    • EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Actually, no. Windows viruses can work well in wine. You still have to be careful in that regard.

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  • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes, much the same once you learn the hoops.

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  • Cycloprolene@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Mount iso, run the exe with bottles.

    Might need to give flatlpak permission to read the mount folder.

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• Gerula@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s also like saying that bloating an OS with spyware and useles eyecandy it makes use hardware resources ineficiently. But of course that’s not the case with Micro$oft.

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• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  GN came to a weaker conclusion when they were looking at one of the handhelds (I want to say the asus ROG?), although they just attributed that to the device rather than claim it was the OS.

  But most of this reminds me of how Elden Ring was significantly more performant “on steam deck” at launch. And that was mostly because all shaders had to be precached which had implications on how From were streaming content. Which is likely why stuff like mortal kombat 1 apparently forces players to wait for shaders before they can play.

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• 01011@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I remember when I used to run games via Wine over 15 years ago and they used to perform better than on similar hardware running Windows.

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  • evulhotdog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t really think that’s a fair comparison when you’re emulating things and not running them natively.

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    • kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wine is not an emulator. It’s a full implementation of the Windows API, which is why it’s possible to get really good performance out of it in a way that pure software emulation can’t match.

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• malchior@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll switch to Linux when I can play any game I choose to without any stuffing around, or when/if M$ start charging BS subscription.

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  • wahming@monyet.cc ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The first point is 90%v available already with proton

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    • guacupado@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The fact you have to mention Proton is his point.

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  • Thetimefarm@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean they basically do charge you since your data is being sold as the product.

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  • MashedTech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Good note.

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• Drxmiz@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not only in games, I switched from Windows 10 to LXQT and I can finally open more than 3 programs at the same time without the pc hanging for 10 seconds every time I switched between programs

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• Dra@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not to sound sarcastic, but only 17% faster than the operating system known for being an appallingly bloated stack of adware garbage that most people cant get away from because of compatibility? Thats surprisingly low, honestly.

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  • John@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But its Windows is usally the system the games are optimized for. Its impressiv how well proton/wine work these days :)

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    • Dra@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Usually yes, but i thought we were talking about linux gaming, as in games made for both platforms

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  • dannym@lemmy.escapebigtech.info ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think you understand. This is windows games running on Linux through proton. If the games were built and optimized for Linux they’d perform even better

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    • Dra@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I absolutely understand that, and nothing in my comment suggests otherwise?

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• Destraight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Okay, so say I did switch to Linux. I would have to transfer all of my files that I have saved from Windows and try to make them compatible with being on Linux. It’s also very excruciating and mentally painful that I would just have to start from scratch. I like all the various things I have saved on my PC i would not want to lose them

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• BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  why aren’t game producers releasing versions of the game compiled for debian ubuntu and other lInux distros?

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• Rookeh@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Doesn’t really surprise me, I’ve had a Steam deck since launch and the performance on Windows titles has always been impressive, even considering its relatively low-end hardware.

  The only thing preventing me from switching my desktop over is lack of software RAID support in most distributions (by this I mean RAID configured in the BIOS but not using a dedicated hardware controller).

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• iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not really surprised.

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• Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  But what about Fortnite and Valorant?

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• Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nice for the 3 games that run on linux

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