today I was reminded how bad YouTube ads are

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Tibert@jlai.lu⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

I watched a Warframe (game) YouTube video on the Steam integrated browser, without beeing connected to my account and Holly s* it was horrible.

I got 5 ads in the video. 1 (or more skippable once) at the beginning, 1 during the first half of the video, 2 during the second half, and 1 at the end.

All were skippable after 5 sec.

2 were close together at about 1 min interval during the second half of the video.

But that is not the only issue. 4 of those ads (not the last one at the end), were Israeli hate/war anti-hamas propaganda.

I consider these ads horrible and they should not be allowed in my opinion.

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hunter2@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Most people, including myself, seem to agree, that ads were never the problem. When YouTube started, it had ads too and nobody cared. But the ads got worse and websites started to shove them down our throats. I miss the times of a single banner below a video. I don’t think Google and all the others realise just how much determined nerds can achieve. So far the ad blockers seem to win the race, minus some minor setbacks.

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- deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Some of those that work ad tech are the same that write filters.
  
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  - Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yep. My day job is providing tools to the marketing team and improving lead gen. It pays me well.
    
    But I also contribute to open source projects to unfuck the internet. I know the tricks people like me use.
    
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  - dmonzel@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Oooooooo, is this the start of a RATM parody?
    
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  - oldGregg@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Should be good to bad, not bad to good
    
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- uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  It was October Spooky when Microsoft dropped the GetWinX.exe icon on everyone’s Win7 and Win8 taskbars. The first time, we all followed the directions and dove into the registry to remove it, because it wasn’t enough to just delete it. The icon would self restore.
  
  Then Microsoft reinstalled their adware in a critical security update Big Mic also started using dark patterns making upgrading opt-out, and hiding the onay toggle.
  
  Thats when an engineer, UltimateOutsider, I think, created the GetWinX Control Panel which not only did the full remove in a wizard but also monitored on boot to see if it came back.
  
  It was a reassuring day. I think no matter how much the companies enshittify, it will only drive pissed off engineers to write hard bypasses. It’s how we got the GCP. It’s how we got Windows Loader for every release since XP’s activation process.
  
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  - grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That kind of shit is why I run GNU, and so should everybody else.
    
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- Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  When youtube started, the ads would load perfectly every single time and the video was a tiresome afterthought that would load in fits and starts if it loaded at all.
  
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  - Infynis@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That sounds like every streaming service
    
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- YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I use an ad blocker but I cringe when I see my wife viewing a short recipe online, on a page with 10+ ads.
  
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  - ripcord@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Why don't you help her? Do you not like her??
    
    She's drowning and you're just standing there watching :( :(
    
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  - can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Hook your wife up
    
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  - JewGoblin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I’m totally shocked when I see people using browsers without an ad blocker, mind blowing
    
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- RedditWanderer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Now on mobile they even open up the sidebar where the playlist normally is and puts an extra ad there too. Then it breaks your fullscreen and youre left with the comments open and a banner ad. So dumb.
  
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- narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  This. Ads can be somewhat okay as long as they don’t interrupt or otherwise hinder the functionality of the website or application I’m using.
  
  YouTube’s video ads interrupt the main functionality of the website for the full duration of the ads (some are skippable after 5s).
  
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  - ripcord@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    In the early days of the Internet, ads were ok.
    
    Then the popups came.
    
    Then came the popup blockers.
    
    It's been an arms race since the beginning. The ad-throwers get greedy, not knowing when to stop pushing. That's how things escalate.
    
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  - meco03211@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    As a matter of principle I will doff my headphones and look away or hyperfocus on the specific area to skip the ad waiting for it to become available.
    
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- JewGoblin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Greed
  
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  - Stumblinbear@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    While I think this may play a part, YouTube was unprofitable for more than a decade and probably still is right now. It’s not greedy to want to pay server costs
    
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- weedazz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  How about you just pay for services then?
  
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  - Kanda@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    We do, look at all this data we let them harvest
    
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  - Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s not the most appealing option, but it might just work as long as the service is good.
    
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_number8_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
if they come for yt-dlp i will record their videos with a fucking VCR and clip out the ads so help me god

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- grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  If I’m provoked to retaliation, my tactic would be to start aggressively mirroring other people’s content to PeerTube.
  
  I haven’t done so yet out of respect for the creators, but my patience with Google is wearing thinner and thinner…
  
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- netburnr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’ve got a vcr in my closet, I don’t know why, but maybe their days are coming back.
  
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  - DJDarren@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I’ve got a Betamax at home. One day I’ll pick up a tape, to see if it works.
    
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- randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I read this in Brandon Rogers as Bobby Worst voice.
  
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Rhoeri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I can’t watch YouTube without getting ads with some gravy seal in camo walking around in the woods telling me there’s a storm coming.

Who’s allowing these clowns to spread their propaganda?

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- hiddengoat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  YouTube. Obviously.
  
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  - ripcord@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    And the rest of us are, too.
    
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- ominouslemon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I don’t know what a “gravy seal” is, but I’m trying to picture it and I’m kinda laughing to myself
  
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  - Heavybell@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Imagine a fat, old, or otherwise unfit civilian who has purchased tactical-looking gear and weapons, which he uses for aggressive posturing. That’s my understanding of the term.
    
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  - TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Member of Meal Team 6, Vanilla ISIS, or Y’all Qaeda. Usually drives a pavement princess.
    
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  - AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    https://images.app.goo.gl/9meaHompuHurBhf76
    
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- jennwiththesea@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Seriously!! I don’t mind the frequency so much as the absolute SHIT they’re serving up. Conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory. I’ve been skipping some of my favorite creators because I just don’t have the emotional wherewithal to deal with the bullshit every five minutes. It is truly enraging.
  
  I also got a Nebula subscription. It’s not perfect, and I wish more of the people I follow were on there, but it helps so much, mentally. I don’t have to see crappy ads I didn’t sign up for, or feel guilty for using an ad blocker, because the people I follow are getting paid through the subscription.
  
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Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Ads are the reason I stopped listening to regular FM radio. I used to live in a more rural town and it was at least half an hour to get to any city I would have to go to for more than basic groceries. Once when I was coming back somewhere that takes a whole hour drive to get home, I heard nothing but commercials the entire drive.

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- Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’ve been adding music to my mp3 collection since Napster got started. It feels old fashioned now but I have yet to see a reason to use an alternative method. I actually have a lifetime subscription to SiriusXM. So I pay nothing, and I still don’t listen to that shit.
  
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  - Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Hearing new music is why I like Spotify. Sure, there are ways to find new music without streaming, but it takes actual effort, where Spotify can just make it happen.
    
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  - Nima@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    same. I just use foobar and a bluetooth radio adapter. easy as pie.
    
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- Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Remember the time when people used to have a stack of CDs in the car? Some cars even had a a fancy player that could hold multiple discs.
  
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  - hardcoreufo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yeah I wish I still had a cd player or an aux jack. At least I can load up mp3s on a flash drive.
    
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  - JewGoblin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    poor people still do, at least older poor people
    
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- whofearsthenight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  What features has Spotify cut? I’ve had premium for like 5 years and I think I’ve seen a dollar raise in price.
  
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- nodrod@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Idk I pay for Spotify family premium and it’s only gone up $1 since their launch in 2011… I think that’s pretty good. Now if it becomes and annual thing then fuck’em.
  
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  - JewGoblin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    damn, Spotify was $1?
    
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- JineteDeAbuelas47@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  If you ever give up on spotify, ViMusic is an FOSS app on F-Droid that is compatible with androod auto (you have to enable developer options first for 3rd party apps but it is fairly easy and quick to do)
  
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- pedz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  For me it was TV. I stopped watching TV when I became aware of the amount of ads for cars. There’s at least one ad for a car in every “commercial break”. So I just stopped about 15 years ago.
  
  I filled the entertainment gap with internet and lately I’ve been using YouTube a lot. However it’s also becoming annoying with the sponsors inside the videos as well. I was not using SponsorBlock before but I installed it a few days ago.
  
  If I’m ever forced to watch the awful ads on YouTube, I’ll quit too. My life is just gonna be better for it.
  
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doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
YouTube Ads: “You are a MAN with a GUN and you will MURDER EVERYONE if it means you can PROTECT your FAMILY”

I don’t even know, or care, wtf they are selling but they missed the target audience with that one.

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- Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  So many ads seems like Powerthrist turned down to 70% but lacking the irony.
  
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- AndyLikesCandy@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Google must be scraping the bottom of the barrel of crazy that’s also stupid enough to pay for ads, I think it’s common knowledge now that Google games analytics to artificially inflate the appearance of ad impact.
  
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  - doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Honestly, I don’t really think they could be any more impactful with ads than they actually are, though. Might have to side with them against the advertisers on that front. YouTube Sponsors should know by now exactly how effective Google is. If Google attempts to be even more pushy, like with the banner that disables video player, the only thing they get is massively reduced user engagement as people either log out or leave the site.
    
    A much bigger issue is that Google has either Monopoly or strong Oligopoly on serving online ads, and they set their rates accordingly.
    
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ad_on_is@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
These ads make it impossible to use YT as a free learning platform anymore.

When I want to dig into a subject, I want to do it focused and without being distracted, and YT makes it impossible. The only content one can tolerate ads on is entertainment, which makes YT just another TikTok.

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- Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Currently sharing piped.video with every single educator there is. There should NEVER FUCKING EVER be ads on educational videos. Youtube is run by POS’s and greedy shitfaces.
  
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  - DigitalFrank@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Well, it’s owned by Google…so…
    
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- 0xD@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Then pay for your learning ;)
  
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  - FaeDrifter@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Call me a dirty communist but I think education should be accessible to all regardless of socio-economic status.
    
    A well educated population is better for Democracy, better for the human species and society.
    
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  - ad_on_is@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Where I come from, education is free. So, nope!
    
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  - Ookami38@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Or that could be the number one thing that the government subsidizes, instead of how to kill more people. Learning should be the first thing that’s free after food, water, and shelter.
    
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- systemglitch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Just use unlock origin? It works for me.
  
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caboose2006@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I live in the Philippines and get ads for cock fighting.

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- PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I live in Canada and gets ads for Philippino cock.
  
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  - Lilith_the_serpent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Guess YouTube figured out your algorithm.
    
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  - glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I have a VPN set to Sweden as the default country. I have weird ads, I don’t know what they are selling.
    
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- mojo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  In America we just call that gay porn
  
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Hi! We’re Liberty Mutual! All of our ads are weird and quirky, which is funny! Quirky equals funny, right? You’re laughing, aren’t you? This one has an emu! An emu is funny, isn’t it? Liberty Mutual!

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- Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Liberty Bibbidy
  
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JewGoblin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
haven’t watched an ad in almost a decade lol

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- zanyllama52@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Seriously, how are people able to consume YouTube content as well as their ads? Piped + SponorBlock + DeArrow and that’s a wrap, jack.
  
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  - farhanfrezz@r.nf ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s impressive to see the resourcefulness in enhancing the YouTube experience! With tools like Piped, SponsorBlock, and DeArrow, it seems like you’ve found an effective way to skip ads and streamline content consumption. Great job finding what works for you! 🌟
    
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Candybar121@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
This is why I avoid the steam web browser like t͟h͟e͟ P͟L͟A͟G͟U͟E͟

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- jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Well we learned from COVID that a lot of people don’t really avoid the plague much. Time to update the idiom I think.
  
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ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
piped.video

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- lechatron@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I know it’s not, but that totally looks like the domain of a porn site.
  
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mayo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Don’t see mention of Invidious in here so may as well share.

Like piped - front end for youtube. No ads.

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TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Not only the way they keep pushing more and more ads is becoming way too much, they don’t have any standards for what sort of ads they push. From blatant political propaganda to petty false advertising of apps. A reckoning is way overdue.

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BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
YouTube AIDS

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AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Chumba casino ads are the so dystopian and bleak it's like I'm listening to an ad in a GTA game.

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zcd@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Fuck YouTube

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ArghZombies@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Weirdly, and annoyingly, I get this same thing when watching YouTube on my TV. Via Roku stick, Chromecast or anything. However watching the same thing on a laptop or my phone even without any adblock and the video will play far better. Maybe 1 ad at the halfway point and nothing else.

I don’t know why the TV version of YouTube is such an arse for ads. They’re not even in clean places - I get an ad mid-sentence.

Honestly, for a 20 minute video I’d be perfectly ok with a 30 second ad or so. It helps the creators and isn’t that much of a pain for me. But getting adverts every 2 minutes, even if they’re skippable is just a horrific experience.

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JewGoblin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I just found a new app called Grayjay, it combines all the platforms, haven’t used it much, but it doesn’t have ads, or at least is not supposed to

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foggenbooty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
The reason your ads are of terrible quality is because it doesn’t know who you are. You’re not logged in and it doesn’t have any cookies to go off. If I open an incognito window at work and watch a YouTube video it is HORRIBLE. Get rich quick schemes, cheap Chinese scam products, etc. There are a tonne of employees behind this IP and it’s a blank slate browser, so they give untargeted ads.

Think of it this way: Tech companies want to know everything about you, why? Because it helps them sell you for targeted advertising. If Dove wants to show their shampoo commercial to women age 14-30 then Google will gladly offer that for a price. Untargeted ads are literally bottom of the barrel ads and can be considered the “junk mail” of advertising. That’s what you get when you use YouTube without an account. It’s honestly despicable what Google will allow to be sent out in this category and it’s clear they don’t do any human reviews before approving the ads for distribution.

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BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Reminds me the first time watching a movie on TV in the UK in year 2000. 4 long ass commercial breaks and… News in the middle.

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atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
lemdro.id/post/2379465

Do you want peace, or do you want problems always?

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Yawnder@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Thanks for being one of us and that you’re paying for the service. If more people were ads blocking, it would be even worse for the others.

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