Meta sparks privacy fears after unveiling $299 Smart Glasses with hidden cameras: ‘You can now film everyone without them knowing’

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• bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I remember when Google glasses came out, people got assaulted for wearing them

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  • SeaJ@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Several bars in my city banned people wearing them.

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    • briongloid@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Venues will just need to implement infrared checks at the door.

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  • nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The trick is now you can’t tell. Should it be illegal? Heck yes. Will it? “Hmm … technology, so important … innovation… privacy is dead anyway …. terrorism prevention… “

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    • meco03211@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Should it be illegal?

      In the US, it’s been long held people do not have the “expectation of privacy” while out in public. One of the major issues that you’ve kinda touched on is how would it be enforced? So are you opposed to all forms of recording? Or is this more focused on a corporation potentially gathering data on people just by being in public where someone is wearing these?

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    • dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why should it be illegal?

      It’s perfectly legal to photograph strangers in public. You’re in public you have no reasonable expectation of privacy.

      I don’t see people assaulting CCTV cameras for instance.

      Sure some weirdos might I use it for nefarious reasons but if it didn’t exist they would still be weirdos using something else.

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    • thehatfox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How would banning these be enforceable though? They are only going to get more discreet, they will eventually appear completely indistinguishable from regular glasses.

      There are certain ways to detect cameras, such as monitoring for infrared, but that would not work for all camera tech and could be hard to triangulate to exact people in crowded areas. There are also ways to detect electronic devices on a person but doing so could quickly become just as invasive in other ways.

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    • DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      IT’S FOR THE CHILDREN

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    • elbarto777@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think some cameras will “pop out” on your screen if you take a picture of them, right?

      What a shitty future ahead of us. “Why are you taking a picture of me?!” “Because you’re wearing some suspicious glasses and I want to make sure that you are not recording me. Yup. There they are.”

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  • Pxtl@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Everything old is new again

    www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2013/06/14/glasshole

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  • realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What will be the new name for Glassholes in the Meta era?

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• But_Class_War@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “They trust me — dumb fucks,” says Zuckerberg

  Always good to keep in mind

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  • anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Alt headline: Dude with boundary issues makes least surprising glasses ever

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• Zak@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A quick search on Amazon for “spy camera” finds a bunch of devices small enough to easily conceal inside clothing, built in to pens, and built in to watches. A search for “spy camera glasses” finds exactly that, and most of them are well under $300. We’re already well into the era of being able to film everyone without them knowing.

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  • thehatfox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They aren’t directly connected to a social network and promoted with vast marketing resources however.

    I remember playing with one of these about 10 years ago that looked like a car key fob, it recorded somewhat subpar footage in a weird format to a microSD card. A neat novelty but not very practical to use unless you really had a need to do covert surveillance of something, which most people don’t.

    However if it’s made to be effortless to push watchable footage to social media, and people are heavily encouraged and incentivised to do so and it’s a different proposition.

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  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Those at least don’t automatically sync to Zuck.

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  • Knusper@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People aren’t a fan of those existing either, but not much you can do about it. At least, you can assume that it’s only a tiny fraction of people who own these devices, let alone carry them around, ready to go.
    With these glasses, more people will own them and will have them ready to go, on their nose.

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    • angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Smart glasses outside of specific applications were a fad when Google did them and will continue to be, at best, a fad.

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• Steeve@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hidden cameras? They’ve got big ol fuckin cameras on them and apparently a red LED that lights up when in use lol. It’d be easier to secretly film someone by pretending you’re texting on your phone.

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  • Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You seriously think it wouldn’t be trivial to disable the LED?

    And by the time you notice the LED you’ve already been filmed.

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    • lloram239@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The LED detects when it is blocked and the device refuses to function until it is unblocked. So no, working around that won’t be trivial, at least until somebody has found a workaround.

      If Meta wanted to be really throughout with this, they could also keep record of how often there is an issue with the LED and brick the device and close your account if they detect tempering. The whole “trivial to disable” doesn’t fly in a world of closed ecosystem, locked down hardware and accounts requiring a real ID.

      Also you can get spy cameras for $5 from Aliexpress anyway, so why even bother hacking this. Snapchat has some video recording glasses too if one needs an alternative.

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    • Steeve@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It took me a 3 second google search to find that it doesn’t work with the LED covered.

      By the time you notice someone’s phone is out you’ve already been filmed. That’s status quo these days, it isn’t any creepier than every single person walking around with a camera in their pocket.

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    • LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ray ban have had them for years. I hate meta but it’s not just them.

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  • TheTetrapod@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Exactly. The pearl-clutching over smart glasses is so misplaced. You’re already being recorded constantly in public, what’s the big deal?

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    • stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Y’all use the same vocab religiously, I’m just gonna start training models and feeding it to bots to auto respond to y’all lmfao

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  • orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I imagine it wouldn’t take long until someone finds a way to disable that LED.

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    • livedeified@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      looks like a sharpie would do the trick

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• LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I miss when CCTV was a world ending privacy concern. Its gotten so much worse in the last decade.

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  • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Perhaps one of the biggest advances in human knowledge is in how to make ultra-slick slippy-slopes for abstract ideas. It seems to me that the most common reason people give for accepting some new bullshit is that we already have some other bullshit which is worse. But it is the accumulation of additional bullshit that has gotten us into this mess. I’m referring mostly to sacrifices of privacy; and to loss of freedom of use in products and software; the ownership being replaced with ongoing fees and subscriptions. That kind of thing.

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• JCreazy@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You’re being filmed everywhere you go and you probably don’t even know it.

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  • ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Doesn’t make it ok.

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  • BROMETHIUS@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not right in your face at the bar while drunkenly discussing your most regretful one night stands tho.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We’re all part of the Truman show.

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  • kent_eh@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not everywhere - not yet.

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• weew@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just saying, but hidden cameras have been a thing long before the internet was invented

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  • rDrDr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bad people doing bad things is nothing new.

    But these things allow good, otherwise well-intentioned, people, to become unwitting moles for Meta.

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    • stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is an excellent point +1

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Already done by having Facebook, Threads, or Instagram on your phone

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• Tygr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not a thing was learned from Google Glass huh? Alrighty then.

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  • brygphilomena@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I almost like the idea of augmented reality with similar tech. I’d love it if I could look down the street and see historic photos of building overlaid perfectly.

    The issue isn’t the technology, it’s the people who are supplying it and it’s connection to the Internet and sharing. I don’t trust Google and I don’t trust Meta.

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    • Tygr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I was referring to the privacy issues of Google Glass. I’m with you on the trust factor of these two companies.

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    • Pxtl@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not even that for me. Just don’t put a camera on the front.

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  • kicksystem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think the lesson they learned from Google Glass is that the glasses have to be cooler, not make you look like a nerd, and the technology has to be way better.

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  • brlemworld@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Google Glass at least had a screen. This appears all phony based

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  • Texas_Hangover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Cant believe I had to scroll down to see this.

    I read the headline and thought, “this again?”

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• Soundhole@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The NY Post? Why not link to The Crackpot Gazette while you’re at it?

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  • moody@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s not even a real thing!

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• SMT42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Google glass 2.0

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  • jayandp@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • Damage@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We were rightly worried about Google glass, we had no idea there was something even worse on the horizon

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• dangblingus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  NYPost is right wing trash.

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• ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I can’t imagine being friends or even acquaintances with a person who would want to live stream their POV as a day to day activity.

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  • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t either, although I can see the appeal for moment capture and some of the other cool features.

    However I would never even consider this product, because it’s meta spyware garbage.

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• marx2k@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  NYPost.

  come on now

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• alienanimals@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  People who don’t understand that they already lost their privacy years ago: “GASP, this means someone could be recording me!”

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  • Quik@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Which doesn’t make this any better of a future to live in.

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  • NightAuthor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You know privacy isn’t just a binary thing, right?

    Otherwise I’d be posting a picture of you using your phone on the toilet.

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  • FoxBJK@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • alienanimals@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Have you never been to a city? You’re literally being filmed all the time.

      If you can get things changed, I will send you $20

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• HurlingDurling@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My cyberpunk future of me using a full head mask every time I’m out in public is getting closer.

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• danielfgom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This might actually be useful for when the cops pull you over. Or if you get bad service in a shop you’ll have a video of it.

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  • kicksystem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is exactly the kind of fear mongering that they are hoping people will buy into.

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  • MadBob@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d never grass up a shop worker because I have working class solidarity even with those in bad moods, but the coppers is a good example. Maybe also for road cyclists, but they already have cameras if they want them.

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  • sockinacock@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Or for keeping your bosses honest, verbal contracts become an awful lot more binding with video evidence.

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    • pdxfed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Private companies almost all have provisions in their IT use policy banning this, and they can do this on their property. Just like they can ban firearms. Disney restricts some kind of video recording at their parks because of creepers and pervs, not that Disney is a model of privacy just that it’s not uncommon.

      The correct response would be, absent elected officials who act to protect consumers, for people to call out employers and companies who would allow this in their space, shaming them, then the product would die.

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• Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Black mirror vibes

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• Pregnenolone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Downvote all news corpse articles

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• Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So this is just an ad, huh.

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• DandomRude@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Peeping Mark

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• southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I predict a uptick in assault and battery when people start recognizing these and get sick of them being used in public

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• shasta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So will they just not work in 2 party consent states?

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• trackindakraken@lemmy.whynotdrs.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is what’s coming on the AR headsets that will eventually replace phones. Soon, if you’re in public, you WILL be recorded by someone without your knowledge, and probably you already have been. There is no privacy in public areas, get used to it.

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• CCMan1701A@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My home cameras had some update that required the LED to be on to indicate it was capturing video. This should be required on these products.

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• ninekeysdown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Meh, I assume I’m always on camera anywhere I’m in public. I don’t like it and I really don’t want to be recorded. I’m also realistic and understand that public spaces are… well public.

  I understand privacy fears because there’s nothing stopping someone in my private space from recording me now other than mutual respect and consent. If all it takes is the ease of use of some fashionable frames then it’s time to rethink your relationships.

  This also applies to semi-private spaces. So think at the office or a cozy booth in a coffee shop. Assume all public places are recorded (because they often are) and establish boundaries within your relationships.

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• MaxPower@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  stylish

  Apparently their definition of “stylish” is vastly different from my definition.

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• WuTang@lemmy.ninja ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Now you might have an idea how a company making $0 is getting funded.

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• tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  On the one hand I’d kinda love a pair of glasses that told me peoples names as I’m always forgetting them, or gave me directions without having to look at the phone.

  On the other hand… humans.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can’t wait for pervs to start using these to get upskirt videos.

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