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• imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My brain feels Expandard

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  • tyler@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The exact sentence I came to post. Apparently we all think alike.

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    • AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Alikeard

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• superfes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Where’s the custard?

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  • toynbee@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Image

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  • athatet@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits fart turd and twat

    There you go. I cust too much.

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    • degen@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I will always appreciate the blink182 version

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• jedibob5@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So a lizard must be an excess of Liz?

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  • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh no, people are gonna start being called “Rizzards” soon.

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    • Khrux@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve always had a soft spot for the word rizz. Not just is it a shortening of charisma, so more sensible than other zoomer words, but I grew up playing D&D, where wisdom is frequently shortened to Wis, and Cha is bad to say and doesn’t rhyme.

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    • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      language evolves; it will transform intro “Lizards”

      this actually the plan of The Government™ ran by evil reptilian people

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  • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The opposite of Thin Lizzy.

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There used to be a lot of excess Lizzo, but she lost weight on GLP1s, like everybody else in Hollywood.

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  • Asetru@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And a leopard?

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• VivianRixia@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So, calling someone a bast-ard, implies that their mother slept around on many beds that weren’t the marriage bed. Does that mean it all comes back to calling your mother a whore?

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  • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As is every insult

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    • drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think in English there is also:

      • Comparing the subject to an animal, such as a dog.
      • Slurs for various minorities.
      • Names for ‘vulgar’ body parts, or the act of sex itself.
      • Names for human waste products.
      • Literal ‘curse words’ / literal ‘profanity’, such as “damn” or “hell”, which imply the subject will go to, or just allude to the existence of, the Christian hell.
      • Literal swears, as in oaths. This is pretty rare in modern English aside from "I swear to god… ". The word “gadzooks” is actually a minced version of “God’s Hooks” (the nails used in the crucifixion), which was probably shortened from “I swear on God’s Hooks”. Its pretty funny how something that was probably deadly serious in the past has been diluted so much that now only cartoon characters say it.

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ye daddy was a 2 pump chump!

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• melvisntnormal@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ahh so that’s why charizard is so hot

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  • tryagain@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ¡Más chorizo!

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  • BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    👏👏👏

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• stray@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s not “too” something; it’s just being strong (hardy) or remarkable in that trait. A lot of sources list it as derogatory, but it isn’t so in all instances of use.

  A wizard is not too wise, but very wise. Renard or Reinhardt is someone who gives good advice or makes good decisions.

  The “must” in mustard is juice and pulp which you intend to ferment, because grape must was an ingredient. There’s a lot of debate over whether the “ard” is the one in this post or ardens (burning).

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  • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Wizard” historically had a negative connotation though.

    It’s to be expected that an old suffix can have multiple meanings.

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    • stray@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It could have a negative connotation. One could be a genuine wise man or essentially a snake oil salesman, so the word could be applied in both ways. It’s like how we use “genius” as an insult; we’re using the word in an ironic and sarcastic way.

      Here is a collection of various uses throughout history:

      www.oed.com/dictionary/wizard_n?tab=meaning_and_u…

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The “must” in mustard is juice and pulp which you intend to ferment, because grape must was an ingredient. There’s a lot of debate over whether the “ard” is the one in this post or ardens (burning).

    So the mustard seed was named after the condiment?

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    • stray@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes. It’s not too unusual for that sort of thing to happen. Feverfew and lungwort are plants named after their medicinal uses, and the tea plant and rubber tree are named for what they produce. Wheat means white, referring to the ground flour.

      A lot of things might have had other names before a use was discovered, or they just might not have been named by anyone yet. I think most plants have probably had lots of different regional names within the same language. Flowers seem to collect a lot of names; I think they make us poetic because they tended to interact with human culture in many ways.

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  • Uruanna@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A wizard is not too wise, but very wise.

    Thanks, that one was strangard.

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Renard

    A fox!

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbXiG9lTwAM

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• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This largely true. English takes ‘-ard’ from Old French. MW defines it as:

  one that is characterized by performing some action, possessing some quality, or being associated with some thing especially conspicuously or excessively

  The main point is that it’s generally just a pejorative suffix.

  Citing the Trésor de la langue française informatisé, however, Wiktionary puts forward a surprisingly cogent counterargument and alternative etymology to the “packsaddle” one for “bastard”.

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  • helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    French still has this feature, for instance a driver is a chauffeur, and a bad driver is a chauffard. Some one who goes overboard with partying is a fêtard, etc.

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    • fartographer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why would they have a second pejorative for someone who is excessively overbo?

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• FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I love etymology

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Me too! Bugs are great.

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    • cori@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      people who confuse entomology and etymology bug me in ways i can’t put into words

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    • parody@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Etymology
      : A branch of linguistics concerned with etymologies (origin/history of words)

      Entomology
      : A branch of zoology that deals with insects

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  • libre_warrior@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why?

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• lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The -ard is basically “fucking” + nominaliser (if necessary):

  • wizard - fucking wise one
  • drunkard - fucking drunk one
  • coward - fucking tail (the initial part is from Old French “coue” tail, itself from Latin “cauda” tail. Who shows the back in a fight? Someone running away!)

  The “nominaliser” part is an artefact of the borrowing, the suffix is from French. Romance languages often use adjectives as if they were nouns, but that doesn’t quite roll in English. In turn French borrowed from Frankish.

  The etymology of “mustard” is disputed. The first part is likely from Latin “mustum” must; it used to be prepared with young wine. The -ard is typically explained as ardens (fiery, hot). So basically “mustum ardens” hot must. …Capsicum peppers are from the Americas, black pepper and long pepper were expensive, European mediaevalards didn’t really have a lot of spicy flavours to work with, so… I guess mustard was spicy for them?

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  • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m going to turn “wizard” back into an insult. Some smart-aleck tries to act bougie: “fuck off, wizard”

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    • Gyroplast@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Pronounce it /ˈwaɪzɝd/ for added effect! Don’t go overboard, though, or you may be called a custard.

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  • allhopelost@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Interestingly now a “queutard” in french slang is someone who use his queue (=tail, slang for dick) a lot.

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  • AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fucktards be making fuck all the way to the parking lot.

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m not sure but I think the suffix in this case would yield “fuckard”. With “fucktard” being interpreted as “fuck [re]tard”. And given the later is nowadays interpreted as a slur, I’d discourage it.

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• Hupf@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The -ard here was refers to the overabundace of regional channels: HR, WDR, SWR, NDR, BR, RBB, MDR, etc. pp.

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  • quink@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ah yes, in English it apparently means ‘-ly’, in German it means ‘Arbeitsgemeinschaft der öffentlich-rechtlichen Rundfunkanstalten der Bundesrepublik Deutschland’… I guess some languages are just more expressive than others.

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• MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  See also: haggard, laggard, braggart (this one changed to a ‘t’ for some reason), dastard, dullard, and a few others. It’s uncommon but it’s out there!

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  • hakase@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dotard!

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  • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My utterly baseless theory on braggart is that those folks have always been so MF irritating, through history, that people pronouncing the word just tend to do so using a clipped, terse voice.

    “Oh, m’lady, pray tell? T’was Kevin spinning such fanciful yarns for thee? (grits teeth) UGH, that braggart”

    I don’t care if it’s true.

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• psycho_driver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Today I learned I might be too ret.

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  • Khanzarate@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The root means “slow”, BTW, so it does get to join that list.

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    • bryophile@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m no expert at this, but it seems to be the suffix here is ‘tard’ not ‘ard’, coming from Latin.

      The root already has tard in it, from Latin retardare. It also has the word tard in it, French for late. Retard also means late in French.

      Does anyone here know? It also had me wondering.

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• null@lemmy.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So when people call me a retard they’re saying I’m overly moist?

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  • GreenShimada@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That you have an excess of Ret, not Wet.

    C’mon, retard, figure it out.

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  • Klear@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Retard means literally “delayed”, ultimately from latin tardus (also see “tardy"), meaning slow. Doesn’t seem like it comes from the same suffix.

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    • null@lemmy.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m just shitposting, don’t mind me.

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• CaptPretentious@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They bring up wizard… But what about bards?

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  • Minizarbi@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To b or not to b

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  • FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They are just Too much… Ask every DnD Master.

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• Paulemeister@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What about standard

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  • specimen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think there’s a wacky Japanese comic book about this

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    • Stern@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’d say its more bizarre than wacky.

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  • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    According to etymonline, it’s from the French estandart meaning a military banner, or from the Medieval Latin standardum. These in turn possibly come from the old Frankish standhard, so literally to stand hard like a flag or a long-standing tradition.

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• AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “-ard” would mean not so much “excessively” as “by their/its nature”; i.e. a seed/condiment whose very nature is mustiness, a person conceived out of wedlock (which was considered a black mark on one’s character back then), one who is habitually drunk, and so on

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• dovahking@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I lube learning new stuff through memes.

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• mech@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This explains my University Report Card.

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• Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hazard is apparently too much danger

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• fibojoly@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Un animal de bât is indeed a pack saddle animal, and bâtard is indeed a bastard so that’s pretty cool. Never realised the connection! -ard in French is also often a negative suffix, like connard which would be a… “cuntard” if you will.
  -asse is the feminine variant, although there are inconsistencies, such as pétard / pétasse which are probably related but one is a firecracker, while the other is a tart (the lady kind)

  Rude language is always so much fun!

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• Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Someone forgot 'stand'.

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• froh42@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Mallard ducks would be very confused about this post.

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• csolisr@hub.azkware.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do not investigate how do they call a person that retes

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• Speiser0@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So what is a guard?

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• 5715@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  goonard? looksarding?

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• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So…

  What is Dast?

  (The word that means what we typically use Bastard for is Dastard.)

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• degen@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Unironically, what about Blizz?

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• BigBenis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Jean-Luc Pic

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• Chais@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Also

  • dull
  • boll
  • mall
  • stand

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• shrugs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What about retard? SCNR

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