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  • BigBenis@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Jean-Luc Pic

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  • imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    My brain feels Expandard

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    • tyler@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The exact sentence I came to post. Apparently we all think alike.

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      • AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Alikeard

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  • superfes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Where’s the custard?

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    • athatet@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits fart turd and twat

      There you go. I cust too much.

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    • toynbee@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Image

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  • jedibob5@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So a lizard must be an excess of Liz?

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    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Oh no, people are gonna start being called “Rizzards” soon.

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      • Khrux@ttrpg.network ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’ve always had a soft spot for the word rizz. Not just is it a shortening of charisma, so more sensible than other zoomer words, but I grew up playing D&D, where wisdom is frequently shortened to Wis, and Cha is bad to say and doesn’t rhyme.

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      • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        language evolves; it will transform intro “Lizards”

        this actually the plan of The Government™ ran by evil reptilian people

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    • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The opposite of Thin Lizzy.

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There used to be a lot of excess Lizzo, but she lost weight on GLP1s, like everybody else in Hollywood.

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  • Slovene@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So Richard is too rich? Is that why he’s a Dick?

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  • melvisntnormal@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    ahh so that’s why charizard is so hot

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    • tryagain@sopuli.xyz ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ¡Más chorizo!

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    • BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      👏👏👏

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  • Chais@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Also

    • dull
    • boll
    • mall
    • stand
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  • shrugs@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What about retard? SCNR

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  • FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I love etymology

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    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Me too! Bugs are great.

      Image

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      • cori@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        people who confuse entomology and etymology bug me in ways i can’t put into words

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      • parody@lemmings.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Etymology
        : A branch of linguistics concerned with etymologies (origin/history of words)

        Entomology
        : A branch of zoology that deals with insects

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    • libre_warrior@lemmy.ml ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why?

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s not “too” something; it’s just being strong (hardy) or remarkable in that trait. A lot of sources list it as derogatory, but it isn’t so in all instances of use.

    A wizard is not too wise, but very wise. Renard or Reinhardt is someone who gives good advice or makes good decisions.

    The “must” in mustard is juice and pulp which you intend to ferment, because grape must was an ingredient. There’s a lot of debate over whether the “ard” is the one in this post or ardens (burning).

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Wizard” historically had a negative connotation though.

      It’s to be expected that an old suffix can have multiple meanings.

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      • stray@pawb.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It could have a negative connotation. One could be a genuine wise man or essentially a snake oil salesman, so the word could be applied in both ways. It’s like how we use “genius” as an insult; we’re using the word in an ironic and sarcastic way.

        Here is a collection of various uses throughout history:

        www.oed.com/dictionary/wizard_n?tab=meaning_and_u…

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    • Uruanna@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A wizard is not too wise, but very wise.

      Thanks, that one was strangard.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Renard

      A fox!

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbXiG9lTwAM

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  • psycho_driver@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Today I learned I might be too ret.

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    • Khanzarate@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The root means “slow”, BTW, so it does get to join that list.

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  • VivianRixia@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So, calling someone a bast-ard, implies that their mother slept around on many beds that weren’t the marriage bed. Does that mean it all comes back to calling your mother a whore?

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    • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      As is every insult

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      • drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think in English there is also:

        • Comparing the subject to an animal, such as a dog.
        • Slurs for various minorities.
        • Names for ‘vulgar’ body parts, or the act of sex itself.
        • Names for human waste products.
        • Literal ‘curse words’ / literal ‘profanity’, such as “damn” or “hell”, which imply the subject will go to, or just allude to the existence of, the Christian hell.
        • Literal swears, as in oaths. This is pretty rare in modern English aside from "I swear to god… ". The word “gadzooks” is actually a minced version of “God’s Hooks” (the nails used in the crucifixion), which was probably shortened from “I swear on God’s Hooks”. Its pretty funny how something that was probably deadly serious in the past has been diluted so much that now only cartoon characters say it.
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      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Ye daddy was a 2 pump chump!

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  • MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    See also: haggard, laggard, braggart (this one changed to a ‘t’ for some reason), dastard, dullard, and a few others. It’s uncommon but it’s out there!

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    • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My utterly baseless theory on braggart is that those folks have always been so MF irritating, through history, that people pronouncing the word just tend to do so using a clipped, terse voice.

      “Oh, m’lady, pray tell? T’was Kevin spinning such fanciful yarns for thee? (grits teeth) UGH, that braggart”

      I don’t care if it’s true.

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    • hakase@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Dotard!

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  • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The -ard is basically “fucking” + nominaliser (if necessary):

    • wizard - fucking wise one
    • drunkard - fucking drunk one
    • coward - fucking tail (the initial part is from Old French “coue” tail, itself from Latin “cauda” tail. Who shows the back in a fight? Someone running away!)

    The “nominaliser” part is an artefact of the borrowing, the suffix is from French. Romance languages often use adjectives as if they were nouns, but that doesn’t quite roll in English. In turn French borrowed from Frankish.

    The etymology of “mustard” is disputed. The first part is likely from Latin “mustum” must; it used to be prepared with young wine. The -ard is typically explained as ardens (fiery, hot). So basically “mustum ardens” hot must. …Capsicum peppers are from the Americas, black pepper and long pepper were expensive, European mediaevalards didn’t really have a lot of spicy flavours to work with, so… I guess mustard was spicy for them?

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    • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m going to turn “wizard” back into an insult. Some smart-aleck tries to act bougie: “fuck off, wizard”

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      • Gyroplast@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Pronounce it /ˈwaɪzɝd/ for added effect! Don’t go overboard, though, or you may be called a custard.

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    • allhopelost@piefed.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Interestingly now a “queutard” in french slang is someone who use his queue (=tail, slang for dick) a lot.

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    • AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Fucktards be making fuck all the way to the parking lot.

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      • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m not sure but I think the suffix in this case would yield “fuckard”. With “fucktard” being interpreted as “fuck [re]tard”. And given the later is nowadays interpreted as a slur, I’d discourage it.

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  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This largely true. English takes ‘-ard’ from Old French. MW defines it as:

    one that is characterized by performing some action, possessing some quality, or being associated with some thing especially conspicuously or excessively

    The main point is that it’s generally just a pejorative suffix.

    Citing the Trésor de la langue française informatisé, however, Wiktionary puts forward a surprisingly cogent counterargument and alternative etymology to the “packsaddle” one for “bastard”.

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    • helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      French still has this feature, for instance a driver is a chauffeur, and a bad driver is a chauffard. Some one who goes overboard with partying is a fêtard, etc.

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      • fartographer@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Why would they have a second pejorative for someone who is excessively overbo?

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  • Hupf@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Image

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    • hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The -ard here was refers to the overabundace of regional channels: HR, WDR, SWR, NDR, BR, RBB, MDR, etc. pp.

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    • quink@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Ah yes, in English it apparently means ‘-ly’, in German it means ‘Arbeitsgemeinschaft der öffentlich-rechtlichen Rundfunkanstalten der Bundesrepublik Deutschland’… I guess some languages are just more expressive than others.

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  • Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hazard is apparently too much danger

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  • CaptPretentious@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They bring up wizard… But what about bards?

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    • Minizarbi@jlai.lu ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      To b or not to b

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  • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Un animal de bât is indeed a pack saddle animal, and bâtard is indeed a bastard so that’s pretty cool. Never realised the connection! -ard in French is also often a negative suffix, like connard which would be a… “cuntard” if you will.
    -asse is the feminine variant, although there are inconsistencies, such as pétard / pétasse which are probably related but one is a firecracker, while the other is a tart (the lady kind)

    Rude language is always so much fun!

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  • null@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So when people call me a retard they’re saying I’m overly moist?

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    • GreenShimada@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That you have an excess of Ret, not Wet.

      C’mon, retard, figure it out.

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    • Klear@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Retard means literally “delayed”, ultimately from latin tardus (also see “tardy"), meaning slow. Doesn’t seem like it comes from the same suffix.

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      • null@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m just shitposting, don’t mind me.

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve heard that the term “son of a gun” has a similar origin.

    See, when a sailing vessel would visit port all the whores would row out to meet it. They’d be hauled into the gun ports and… ply their wares.

    Since they didn’t know who in the gun crew was the father, their boys were “sons of a gun”

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  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    “-ard” would mean not so much “excessively” as “by their/its nature”; i.e. a seed/condiment whose very nature is mustiness, a person conceived out of wedlock (which was considered a black mark on one’s character back then), one who is habitually drunk, and so on

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  • Paulemeister@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    What about standard

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    • specimen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I think there’s a wacky Japanese comic book about this

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      • Stern@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’d say its more bizarre than wacky.

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    • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      According to etymonline, it’s from the French estandart meaning a military banner, or from the Medieval Latin standardum. These in turn possibly come from the old Frankish standhard, so literally to stand hard like a flag or a long-standing tradition.

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  • dovahking@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I lube learning new stuff through memes.

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  • froh42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Mallard ducks would be very confused about this post.

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    • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They’re very much filled eith “too much” malice

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  • Speiser0@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So what is a guard?

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    • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Too protective? I made this up, but if usage started with peasantry or something it kind of makes sense.

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      • Alberat@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        you sound like a smartard

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  • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Someone forgot 'stand'.

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    • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And ‘b’.

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      • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        h

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  • mech@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This explains my University Report Card.

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  • csolisr@hub.azkware.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Do not investigate how do they call a person that retes
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  • Stern@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Mine is Blowh

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