I would LOVE to believe this will force automakers to return to using buttons instead of touchscreen.
Yeah, I know. But I’d sure love to believe it.
The RAM shortage is coming for everything you care about
Submitted 7 hours ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/tech/880812/ramageddon-ram-shortage-memory-crisis-price-2026-phones-laptops
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ptc075@lemmy.zip 50 minutes ago
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 20 minutes ago
The number of touch screen clicks I need to turn my windshield wipers on is just plain dangerous.
I’m old enough to remember a time when windows were rolled up by hand. It wasn’t perfect, but you never had to turn your car on again to deal with a window forgotten open.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 19 minutes ago
Hahahahahahahha…but yeah, that’d be awesome. Fucking damn touchscreens in cars.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 32 minutes ago
Hyundai Motor group said they would commit to buttons but the leaks of the ioniq 5 refresh look like all the other chinese crap out there with a bigass tablet in the middle.
Also fuck Elon and Tesla for starting that shit
bonenode@piefed.social 6 hours ago
I think calling it a RAM shortage is a bit incorrect. It is not like we are running out of raw materials or something else in the supply chain is broken. It’s shitty AI companies buying RAM that is not existing yet with money they don’t have. Unfortunately there’s no good term for that, I guess.
0x0@lemmy.zip 24 minutes ago
It’s shitty AI companies buying RAM
It’s greedy manufacturers selling it all to them in the first place and other market segments be damned.
I’m no AI fan but the manufactures aren’t angels either.kingofras@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
It’s called Imaginary Economics.
It tends to happen right before a capitalist system fails.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I’m not holding my breath.
We’ve been hearing about an AI crash practically since the hype train started.
victorz@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
It tends to happen right before a capitalist system fails.
How often does this happen that we can claim this correlation? 🤔
blah3166@piefed.social 6 hours ago
Can I coin the term imagineomics?
1984@lemmy.today 6 hours ago
When has this happened before?
boatswain@infosec.pub 6 hours ago
[citation needed]
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
The term was well established centuries ago.
FRAUD
dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
I like electron finance
Their exact location cannot be pinpointed; instead, they exist in a probability cloud where they are likely to be found at any given time.
That’s what this hype cycle is founded on. If I lend you $5, you have $5 you can lend further. Now, we each still have a right to $5, so we can lend that debt obligation again for $4.50. Now we have, somehow, a market value of $19.
Until someone looks, then it’s probably 0.
sefra1@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Unfortunately there’s no good term for that, I guess. Market manipulation?
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Yes there is: it’s a Ponzi scheme (AI companies will fail when they get no new funds to pay off the stockholders)
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
It’s a racket, plain and simple. There used to be laws against this sort if thing.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
It’s a racket, plain and simple. There used to be laws against this sort if thing.
Keyword: used to
I hope that it was worth it, and that America is great again. Let me just check some news articles… Oh my
gressen@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
It is a shortage caused by artificial demand rise.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
We have RAM supply shortage.
Now better? god…
etherphon@piefed.world 1 hour ago
Most of the stuff I care about is like 30 years old so prob not.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Yeah, I have a backlog of games and thus usually they’re old games to complete (only just couple of years old, not 30 years old), or at least only require lower spec, so I am not in a rush to upgrade my laptop.
etherphon@piefed.world 1 hour ago
Oh yeah my games backlog is huge, I haven’t actually played any in a few years due to depression, but all my old synths and samplers use memory that has been deprecated for ages anyways. I hope people use this time to play through their backlogs like you and maybe these companies will put a little more effort into not fucking people over. I’m a dreamer, I know.
enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
I wish Sam Altman to encounter difficulties every time he had to use bathroom and increased chance of his phone fell to the toilet.
kossa@feddit.org 53 minutes ago
Here I was hoping to casually siege a castle, but alas, no battering ram to be had ☹️
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 hours ago
I’m so glad I bought this book years ago
I was saving it for a retirement hobby project but looks like I will have to open it sooner than I thought.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
IDK at the current price trend, maybe we’re approaching a point where having sweatshops make ferromagnetic memory modules in GB sizes. I’d better start building a couple of hangars for my GPU memory.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Great. Maybe we can stop using electron in native apps now.
roserose56@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
If I become anarchist, trying to burn data center with AI inside, will I be Robin Hood?
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
Steal the RAM from the rich and give to the poor
Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
I believe we already established that they are making the ram incompatible with the systems of the poor.
roserose56@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
That was a good one!
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Does this mean no smart fridges?
Coz that would be cool
shneancy@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
i’d be willing to suffer another year of ram shortage if that meant all smart devices fucked off
maybe we could even see actual physical buttons on devices again! i miss buttons and toggles
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Mr Brightside checking in
doug@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
Don’t be fooled: if RAM had the chance it would kill everyone and everything you’ve ever loved.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
My uncle was killed by a ram
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
You wouldn’t download an uncle would you?
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
At least he wasnt goated…
They can be mean…Thorry@feddit.org 5 hours ago
Was it one of those lighting rams from the DLC? Man fuck those guys
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
First the rich took our data. Then ownership, privacy, money, rights, now RAM. next will be our organs.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 hour ago
I’ve read enough science fiction to know the beginning of a cyberpunk dystopia when I see it…
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Fuck Sam Altman
hark@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
It’s not just desktops, it’s phones and laptops and consoles
Good thing I don’t care about any of those things enough to pay the rip-off prices. I’m fine with my 4 year old phone and 10 year old PC. If they crap out then I’ll replace them with some cheap old crap. I don’t need high specs, there isn’t much worth running these days.
then_three_more@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
And used prices will surge as more people make the same decision as you
NachBarcelona@piefed.social 5 hours ago
Do you care about hospitals, schools, research labs?
riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 minutes ago
Ha! I’m not sick, I already graduated, and I know everything! Checkmate!
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I’m too poor to enjoy any of those, all of their grants have been gutted, so right now, not at all.
vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 4 hours ago
As the article explains, you will indirectly pay.
Any product that contains RAM or any service that relies on the use of computers at scale, is going to pass the operating cost (the cost of sourcing RAM) onto the consumer.
supamanc@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
And these prices will never go down again. Even when shortages end, costoners will be used to the higher prices, and companies will be used to charging them.
Thorry@feddit.org 5 hours ago
Unfortunately it isn’t just the high end stuff which is feeling the crunch. These AI companies have bought up all the production capacity, which means there is less low-end stuff being produced. We’re still coasting on existing stock at the moment, but as that runs out prices will rise across the board.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
So will GPU and mainboard get cheaper end of year or do i have to wait longer?
sefra1@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Paywalled
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Flagship smartphone chipmaker Qualcomm is warning that companies will build fewer phones, period — and that remaining phones will be more expensive. CEO Cristiano Amon says a big dip in its smartphone business will be “100 percent” because of the memory shortage. Here are some choice quotes from Amon on the company’s February 4th earnings call:
“Unfortunately, I think that the whole sector is impacted by memory.” “Industry-wide memory shortage and price increases are likely to define the overall scale of the handset industry through the fiscal year.” “OEMs are very likely to prioritize premium and high-tier, how they have done in the past.” “We just wish there was more memory.” CFO Akash Palkhiwala also said: “We’ve seen several OEMs, especially in China, take actions to reduce their handset build plans and channel inventory.”
How much more might you pay? Hard to say, but IDC points out that memory represents 15–20 percent of the materials cost of a midrange phone, and about 10–15 percent of a high-end flagship phone.
Cherry@piefed.social 2 hours ago
maybe we can have a ram:btc chart…🤣
goatinspace@feddit.org 6 hours ago
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Is your refrigerator running? This is Mike Hunt.
tal@lemmy.today 6 hours ago
Our last, best hope for the subsidy model was Valve, a company that famously rakes in money hand over fist and launched the original Steam Deck at the unbeatable price of $399 through a “painful” amount of subsidy. If Valve did the same for the upcoming Steam Machine, it could have legitimately competed with the PlayStation and Xbox for your living room TV.
But Valve has all but dashed those hopes through a series of moves. In late December, it discontinued the $399 Steam Deck, raising the starting price to $549. In early February, it announced that the Steam Machine had been delayed due to the memory shortage and that the company would have to reset expectations on pricing. And now, even the $549 Steam Deck OLED is out of stock specifically because of the memory crisis.
I was pretty confident that Valve was not going to subsidize the Steam Machine form the start, even before it said that it would be priced comparably to a PC and even before it said that it was delaying determining pricing (which was a good sign that it hadn’t locked in a contract price on components). I commented along those lines.
Consoles can do the razor-and-blades model because they are a closed platform. If you buy a Playstation, it doesn’t do you much good unless you use it to buy Playstation games.
But the Steam Machine is open. I can go run whatever on it. And if Valve subsidizes it, people will just buy it instead of a comparable PC and then run whatever they want on it. Doesn’t make much sense for Valve, just because of the nature of the machine.
Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 6 hours ago
Guess it’s time for everybody to find some grass to touch.
NachBarcelona@piefed.social 5 hours ago
When RAM becomes an AI tax, “touch grass” means that labs stall, ICUs postpone upgrades, schools ration PCs. But Altmann buys a new yacht.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
I don’t really think the per student Chromebook thing is useful anymore.
Kids should be learning with pen and paint, which are shown to be more effective anyways.
Obviously this doesn’t apply to every class, but those classes always had out of date computer labs.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
All of those things hit a brick wall from policy well before this artificial shortage aka fraud
ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Maybe ICUs will upgrade their staffing ratios instead if the costs change that much
Scrollone@feddit.it 3 hours ago
I wish Altman would meet a French crowd like in the good old times.
Sektor@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Across all the devices we have at home i would estimate we have around 70-80 gb of ram in total. Probably even more.
0x0@lemmy.zip 26 minutes ago
You’re rich.
tynansdtm@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
Are they coming to harvest the RAM from my computer?
jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Your kidneys are next.
IratePirate@feddit.org 5 hours ago
“Harvest” is such an ugly word, mister! We rather like to call it an involuntary donation…
bizzle@lemmy.world 15 minutes ago
On the bright side it’s being used to artificially prop up a technology that nobody actually needs or even really wants