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• BruisedMoose@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I am unreasonably angry about the stretched icons.

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  • faintwhenfree@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I’ll join you. 😡

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• AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Revolt (now known as Stoat) isn’t federated though.

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    • WeavingSpider@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Is there a federated version, either in the works or planned? Because otherwise, Stoat is the only option.

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    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Well damn, I need to update the pic I guess.

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• jali67@lemmy.zip ⁨28⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  All due respect to Mastodon but BlueSky is way more viable right now.

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• lofuw@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Should be Lemmy over piefed.

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  • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨minute⁩ ago

    I’ve seen the Reddit users be more receptive of PieFed over Lemmy. In a post suggesting Lemmy, the Reddit users will just comment that it looks ugly, it’s confusing, devs and tankies, etc. Posts suggesting PieFed get less complaints and more signups.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨13⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Yeah but this is like when Disney make star wars. Ignore what the current audience likes and use the show as a vehicle to try and tell them what they should like.

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  • jali67@lemmy.zip ⁨27⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    And BlueSky over Mastodon

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• AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world ⁨35⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Is peer tube any good ?

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨16⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    No.

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• umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Also, to avoid doing unpaid labour for Jeff Bezos, go from Goodreads to Bookwyrm!

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  • unknown1234_5@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I'm a little behind on this, what does goodreads have to do with bezos?

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    • insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world ⁨53⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      In 2013 Goodreads was sold to Amazon 😭

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    • umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨38⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      As pointed out, Goodreads has been owned by Amazon for a good while. And they also own slices of some other similar book sites (LibraryThing, for example, and some other site that was merged into Goodreads).

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  • Kalon@feddit.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Nice suggestion. I didn’t know this was a thing. :)

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• OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There doesn’t need to be a replacement for everything. How much does the world need to revolve around a random person’s hot-take in 140 characters or as many seconds. These are artificial walls.

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So uh, you joined lemmy why then?

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    • Abundance114@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I joined because I got banned from Reddit. Unjustly I claim.

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• neo2478@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What’s the difference between Lemmy and piefed, and why should be choose one over the other?

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You don’t have to. Piefed is different software. It does have more features: custom feeds, hashtags, flairs, polls, events, keyword filtering, scheduled posts and more. Much of this is also arriving in lemmy 1.0, but the release so far is undated.

    But some people dislike the UI of Piefed.

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    To users they’re both mostly the same but PieFed has more features and a much better UX, so it’s the one I choose to promote.

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    • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But how does one switch from Lemmy to Piefed?

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• TidBit@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  FTFY

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve tried to promote Lemmy on Reddit in the past, only to be met with people complaining about the really old UI and bad UX, they also complain about tankies.

    PieFed doesn’t have that bad rep, so I’ve found it easier to promote, both lead to the Fedivers so either is a win.

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    • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      PieFed has its own share of dodgy stuff:

      • opinions of the dev are hard-coded into PieFed’s code, with overreaching content blocks and error messages deliberately lying to users
      • plus a 0/5 priority of testability, 1/5 priority of reliability and 2/5 priority of security described in their architecture document

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    • toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      UX/UI are only as bad as the client is. For me, Lemmy is indistinguishable from reddit (if you don’t look at numbers of comments), because I use Lemmy Sync, as I used Reddit Sync before

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    • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Complain about tankies” it’s the same fediverse… With the same content…

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    • TidBit@mander.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I hear that, but the thing is anyone can block whatever/whoever they feel the need to in the fediverse. I truly believe server admins should federate across the board, as it’s a disservice to end users only allowing federation with certain servers based on admin preference.

      As far as UI and UX go, Lemmy’s devs are some of the biggest players in the overall fediverse functionality. So while the UI/UX could use some more attention in select areas, being able to interact with the other platforms is a much bigger aspect to the appeal of the fediverse! The Lemmy devs really do deserve a lot more credit for their work, regardless on their opinions or how the approach discussing them.

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• hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Peertube isn’t really a viable alternative. There isn’t a substantial enough audience for creators and there isn’t really enough content for an audience. I guess if you’re one of the 100 people watching transport evolved that’s cool but it isn’t really a meaningful alternative. I suppose it could be supplementary, but why would creators want to drive their traffic to a site that doesn’t actually matter for their visibility? I imagine the same probably applies to loops.

  Also, like, with video you kind of want a reliable host that you know isn’t going anywhere.

  The rest are okay as long as you’re not super worried about how many people are seeing what you post. Lemmy and Piefed are great for content aggregation and discussion, but they seem to be the only ones that at this point actually do anything that might be helpful.

  I’ve tried Mastodon and while it’s way better than Twitter it isn’t exactly providing a way to reach a substantial audience. Personal websites are probably a better bet for ease of access.

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  • karashta@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel the same about PeerTube. And the fact it is a defederated network with opt in to federation is a bad model IMO. There’s no way for a creator to get paid, either AFAIK. 

    I tried it out. First sign up, I was shuttled to an instance federated with only two other instances. Second sign up, I found what looked like an active instance but there still is just a lack of content. I’m not sure how to fix any of its issues as I see them. I’d love an actual YouTube competitor

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  • bufalo1973@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because YouTube can shoot down you account and all your videos get blocked if they want?

    Every political content creator should use PeerTube at least as a backup.

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    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They just use IG and TT as backups. Yeah, you could be banned from all three. But that’s where the audience is, so without that why bother?

      I love the idea of fediverse video, but even I don’t use it. No content I care about. No audience that would care about me. I get more visibility on a Lemmy post that just says “beans” than I would spending an hour making a 30 second video.

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    • hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Most of them have Patreon for that, which actually produces income.

      What’s the incentive? All they would be doing is pushing views away from platforms where having viewers actually benefits them, either through metrics or income or both.

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  • BaroqueW@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    For most other formats, everyone creates and shares: photos, posts, sharing links. For more crafted video material, there’s too much of an imbalance between the number of watchers vs creators to make a new platform an easy sell. You’d need a strong creator promise like Nebula.

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    • hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, agreed. The one thing the platforms you see that aren’t YouTube that creators actually use have in common is financial incentive. Nebula is the best example here. Creators get a cut and have more creative freedom, so they actually use it and try to direct their audience to it for bonus content, which seems to actually work. Patreon is similar for a lot of creators, letting them put out additional content with fewer restrictions and letting them get more income from their viewers.

      Some people also seem to have some success with independent platforms. If you look at like a Dropout or Viva Plus, these are both putting stuff out on YouTube and then drawing users in with subscriptions, and that seems to be a sound model.

      But Peertube produces zero dollars for creators, which means they have no incentive to push users there. In fact, they’re incentivized to avoid doing so because there other platforms that will actually pay them if they can direct traffic there. Peertube lacks both the money-making side of things and the exposure side of things, so there’s no real reason to use it.

      Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see something independent like Peertube take off, but the model doesn’t really work.

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  • neo2478@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My main issue with peertube is that I find it confusing. Its not self contained in the sense on how to subscribe to channels or people. AFAIK you also need a mastodon account for it and to jump through some hoops to subscribe to a creator.

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• bufalo1973@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What I miss is a auth service for all of them. Something like a “common user” where you can have all your Fediverse services under the same user.

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• Wrongdoer2@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What’s the difference between Piefed and Lemmy?

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  • Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Piefed has quite a few features that Lemmy doesn’t have:

    • multicommunities
    • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
    • crossposts comments consolidation
    • communities moderation features
    • posts and user flairs
    • keyword filters

    https://join.piefed.social/features/

    Lemmy should get there in version 1.0, but they still don’t have any precise timeframe for that release, and still need to do some testing https://lemmy.ml/comment/23570258

    You might see a few people discrediting Piefed for some optional filters it offers, but all of those filters are configurable by admins and disabled by default: https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by

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    • Lauchmelder@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The fact these filters exist in the first place are not a good sign. When Microsoft introduces new shitware that is “disabled by default” people are skeptical that it might not be disabled for long, but when a fediverse dev does it to block content they personally don’t like it’s fine? This goes against the entire concept of the fediverse imho. Just block people you don’t like yourself

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    • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Piefed seens to have a lot of issues baked into the code

      lemmy.world/post/42299745

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    • SilentDniper@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How can I pick which piefed server doesn’t have the social credit score enabled?

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  • Lauchmelder@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    piefed has an opinionated dev reimplementing karma and filters for content they don’t like right into the application

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    • tiredofsametab@fedia.io ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I was thinking of giving piefed a shot. Any further reading on this?

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  • renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    piefed isn’t made by tankies

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    • no_name_dev_from_hell@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s made by feds.

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    • SilentDniper@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      wait are you sure? there was a lemmy admin talking about how the software is authoritarian and has a “social credit score” that sounds like what a tankie would put in

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    PieFed updates faster, is responsive to suggestions and user concerns, has way more features such as polls, automated posts, it combines cross-post comments into 1 page, etc.

    And the Lemmy devs are transphobes, genocide deniers, support Russia invading Ukraine, etc. so there’s an ethical component to people not supporting it through using it.

    Because I’m sure "they’ll" come and rage here once they see this post I’ll pre-empt it and say the dev for PieFed is not perfect, no one is, and they’ve got some code around minimising meme images and 4chan content based on their personal preferences, but that stuffs all optional and can be turned on or off by the instance admins.

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    • toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      All the people upvote you, it’s only “them” who downvote you. You have a clear picture of the world around you!

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    • SilentDniper@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ew gross, fuck tankies. I’m really confused so both lemmy and piefed are tankie-adjacent?

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  • hayvan@piefed.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They are similar platforms and they federate, i.e. you can see all Lemmy content with a Piefed account and vice versa.

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  • nesc@lemmy.cafe ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    join.piefed.social/features/

    And it’s not being developed by tankies.

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  • TidBit@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Piefed provides sections or slices of the fediverse and often is incorporated with mastodon, whereas Lemmy is a much bigger aspect of the overall fediverse. While everyone is entitled to their option how they approach certain topics, Lemmy’s devs have a huge impact on federation protocols, moderation norms, and general user experience across the fediverse!

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• GMac@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  All the proposed services/technologies would benefit the wider consumer base and the user but switching is too big an ask for many people. We need to encourage people into using “as well as” the global defaults. That will build the network effects that lower the cost of fully switching

  An easier and bigger immediate impact would come from people replacing Chrome and google search with respectful alternatives, and/or replacing gmail or outlook with private services like proton or tuta.
  Starve the surveillance machines a little bit.

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  • iopq@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Look, I’m looking at reddit posts about niche stuff like a fiend. But when I make a post, I always go here first

    I’ve switched, but I haven’t stopped searching old reddit posts. The cache of information is just too rich to pass up.

    It’s all about mindset. I’m all in fediverse, despite actually using reddit sometimes. Switching doesn’t mean blocking the entire website

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  • Sergio@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We need to encourage people into using “as well as” the global defaults.

    agreed, we need “Monthly Try Something New Day”

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• unknown1234_5@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  mbin should be on there too IMO. similar to Lemmy but it federates properly with microblog stuff.

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• SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  TikTok -> driving rust nails through your nipples

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• birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  And also don’t forget to donate to your devs!

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  • Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And instance admins!

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    • lofuw@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I recommend hosting yourself to see exactly what “admins” have to go through.

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• altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Done. I thought it was going to be difficult leaving YouTube but then they blocked new pipe which was my YT crutch. I don’t know what they were thinking I was going to do but it was not re installing their app.

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  • Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Newpipe works fine for me, have you updated it?

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  • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    PipePipe has never let me down yet. In case you still need to interact with YouTube.

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    • altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It started to just error out on every video. Some people suggest to revert a couple of versions. But I simply gave up. There’s no anything there that I need.

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  • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Try Greyjay for YouTube

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• MrRandom@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m 1 foot out of Reddit

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  • missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Welcome!

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  • Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Since your Lemmy account is only 3 days old, I would recommend switching over to PieFed. It’s a much nicer experience and federates with all the same servers that Lemmy does, so you’re seeing the same posts but in a better way. You’re on lemmy.zip, and the same devs run piefed.zip.

    With a little curation of your community subscriptions, you can get a very similar experience to Reddit but better.

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    • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What do you prefer about piefed? Lemmy seems perfect to me.

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• sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Can we self host loops yet? I’ve been holding out on that one. Not that I use tiktok but I would use loops and could probably get my wife to jump.

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• RedWheelbarrow@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So where lemmy fits?

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• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Is there a voyager equivalent for piefed?

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• SilentDniper@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hello and thank you for making the post! I just joined from reddit and have some questions. I really want to avoid some of the tankies I heard about it on the redditalternative posts.

  One of the lemmy servers recommended had this admin and he made this comment recently about piefed

  I feel like [PieFed] moving from moderation to sort of oppressive or authoritarian territory once you’re literally building a social credit system into your software. If you want that, sure use PieFed. I don’t want that, so I won’t.

  So is PieFed the tankie software or what? I dont’ really want to use software that is going to build a social credit score on me or build barriers to actually use the site

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• deleted@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Tiktok -> tiktok with less content and login required unless you like the 10 videos we have chosen for you.

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• Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Crosspost from: !Fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com ( A community for growing the Fediverse )

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