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• TidBit@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  FTFY

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve tried to promote Lemmy on Reddit in the past, only to be met with people complaining about the really old UI and bad UX, they also complain about tankies.

    PieFed doesn’t have that bad rep, so I’ve found it easier to promote, both lead to the Fedivers so either is a win.

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    • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      PieFed has its own share of dodgy stuff:

      • opinions of the dev are hard-coded into PieFed’s code, with overreaching content blocks and error messages deliberately lying to users
      • plus a 0/5 priority of testability, 1/5 priority of reliability and 2/5 priority of security described in their architecture document

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    • toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      UX/UI are only as bad as the client is. For me, Lemmy is indistinguishable from reddit (if you don’t look at numbers of comments), because I use Lemmy Sync, as I used Reddit Sync before

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    • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Complain about tankies” it’s the same fediverse… With the same content…

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    • nutomic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For different UI you can linnk people to blorp, vger.app or phtn.app. There are also a lot of mobile apps.

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    • TidBit@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hear that, but the thing is anyone can block whatever/whoever they feel the need to in the fediverse. I truly believe server admins should federate across the board, as it’s a disservice to end users only allowing federation with certain servers based on admin preference.

      As far as UI and UX go, Lemmy’s devs are some of the biggest players in the overall fediverse functionality. So while the UI/UX could use some more attention in select areas, being able to interact with the other platforms is a much bigger aspect to the appeal of the fediverse! The Lemmy devs really do deserve a lot more credit for their work, regardless on their opinions or how the approach discussing them.

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• thoro@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s honestly bonkers to have a community hosted on Lemmy this hostile to Lemmy as software and the developers.

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  • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Because so many keep getting told it’s by tankies and stop thinking immediately after that

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  • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Deb’s a tankie with the most bullshit oppinions ever seen on earth.

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    • nutomic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not true.

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    • Chill_Dan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Who is deb?

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  • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is this bait? There is hardly any hostility here towards the software and the Lemmy devs want to push the world towards being an authoritarian hellscape. If anything they dont get enough shit.

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    • Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The user is from .ml, it’s a bad-faith post imo.

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are you referring to !fediverse@lemmy.world? This wasn’t posted by the mods.

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    • thoro@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This comm is often full of comments pushing lemmy alternatives, with PieFed being the new frontrunner.

      You’d think the post here would include Lemmy, which I believe is still the most active platform

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• DirtyAnCom@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lol, posting Piefed as an alternative to reddit to Lemmy…

  Also, PeerTube is super obtuse to get an account and has almost no reach. You almost have to personally know someone who has a server or host your own. There’s a reason why video hosting has gotten so corporatized: it’s expensive. That said, almost “no one” used Mastodon for nearly a decade and it’s finally starting to take off, so maybe it just needs another decade or two.

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  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A lot of people hesitate to treat lemmy as the premier fediverse reddit alternative because of how transphobic / authoritarian the lead devs are.

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    • ytg@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And obviously the Piefed codebase is so politically and ethically agreeable… /s

      No one likes the lemmy lead devs or their stances. But, to my knowledge, they just keep doing their own thing over at .ml and never channel it into their actual codebase.

      When I first started here, I was on Kbin, and switched to lemmy because it was so much better. I considered switching to Piefed exactly because of these reasons you mentioned (I’ve already switched lemmy instances, comment history is not an issue for me), but when I looked into it there were so many just frankly aggravating things about the way it works and filters stuff by default (not to mention being written in Python, but that’s completely tangential) that I couldn’t do it.

      Sure, lemmy developers have backwards principles. But at least their software doesn’t. I completely get why someone would use Piefed instead, especially if they’re trans or of some other demographic directly targeted by the lemmy developers, but I wouldn’t do it myself (unless it gets better, of course).

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  • Hupf@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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• BruisedMoose@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am unreasonably angry about the stretched icons.

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  • Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hey, hey you.

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    Get some.

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    • Chill_Dan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Much better!

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  • nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It makes it look like a shitpost at a glance lol

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  • faintwhenfree@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ll join you. 😡

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  • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Some icons are stretched and some aren’t. Double infuriating

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• lofuw@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Should be Lemmy over piefed.

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  • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve seen the Reddit users be more receptive of PieFed over Lemmy. In a post suggesting Lemmy, the Reddit users will just comment that it looks ugly, it’s confusing, devs and tankies, etc. Posts suggesting PieFed get less complaints and more signups.

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    • nutomic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Instead of recommending Lemmy in general, you should recommend a specific instance which matches the audience. For example someone posted about piefed.ca in /r/BuyCanadian. Or you can link to a different frontend like vger.app.

      I did make a redesign to join-lemmy.org recently so that new users can reach the registration page with a single click. I am also curious about any suggestions you have to improve the onboarding.

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    • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is why I stopped promoting Lemmy and switched to PieFed.

      UX is everything, and Lemmy UX sucked. The default UX (for your average user) is dog shit.

      People want ‘it just works’ and PieFed offers that more than Lemmy does.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah but this is like when Disney make star wars. Ignore what the current audience likes and use the show as a vehicle to try and tell them what they should like.

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  • jali67@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And BlueSky over Mastodon

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• AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Revolt (now known as Stoat) isn’t federated though.

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    • WeavingSpider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is there a federated version, either in the works or planned? Because otherwise, Stoat is the only option.

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    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well damn, I need to update the pic I guess.

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  • Shatur@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Maybe add Matrix as a Discord alternative?

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    • network_switch@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Element application is solid now. Still I think it’d be a rough transition for most discord users. But more users probably means more potential for developer interest

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    • evol@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Last time I checked theirs still no channels ? Discoverability is not really their ethier only active one I really found was the monero one

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fair point,

    I omitted Facebook in my image because fuck that kind of social media (my opinion)

    I picked PieFed over Lemmy because UX is everything and currently PieFed has much better UX.

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    • Magnum@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fuck that kind of social media but tiktok and Instagram are better???

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• 7uWqKj@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Please add chess.com → lichess

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  • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lichess is not on the fedi

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• Wrongdoer2@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What’s the difference between Piefed and Lemmy?

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  • Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Piefed has quite a few features that Lemmy doesn’t have:

    • multicommunities
    • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
    • crossposts comments consolidation
    • communities moderation features
    • posts and user flairs
    • keyword filters

    https://join.piefed.social/features/

    Lemmy should get there in version 1.0, but they still don’t have any precise timeframe for that release, and still need to do some testing https://lemmy.ml/comment/23570258

    You might see a few people discrediting Piefed for some optional filters it offers, but all of those filters are configurable by admins and disabled by default: https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by

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    • Lauchmelder@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The fact these filters exist in the first place are not a good sign. When Microsoft introduces new shitware that is “disabled by default” people are skeptical that it might not be disabled for long, but when a fediverse dev does it to block content they personally don’t like it’s fine? This goes against the entire concept of the fediverse imho. Just block people you don’t like yourself

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    • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Piefed seens to have a lot of issues baked into the code

      lemmy.world/post/42299745

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    • SilentDniper@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How can I pick which piefed server doesn’t have the social credit score enabled?

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    • michael@piefed.chrisco.me ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And it works really well :)

      Piefed has been a great experience.

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    • thoro@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are these features available on mobile apps? Because I mostly use Lemmy on Jerboa

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  • Lauchmelder@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    piefed has an opinionated dev reimplementing karma and filters for content they don’t like right into the application

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    • tiredofsametab@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I was thinking of giving piefed a shot. Any further reading on this?

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  • renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    piefed isn’t made by tankies

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    • no_name_dev_from_hell@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s made by feds.

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    • SilentDniper@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      wait are you sure? there was a lemmy admin talking about how the software is authoritarian and has a “social credit score” that sounds like what a tankie would put in

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    PieFed updates faster, is responsive to suggestions and user concerns, has way more features such as polls, automated posts, it combines cross-post comments into 1 page, etc.

    And the Lemmy devs are transphobes, genocide deniers, support Russia invading Ukraine, etc. so there’s an ethical component to people not supporting it through using it.

    Because I’m sure "they’ll" come and rage here once they see this post I’ll pre-empt it and say the dev for PieFed is not perfect, no one is, and they’ve got some code around minimising meme images and 4chan content based on their personal preferences, but that stuffs all optional and can be turned on or off by the instance admins.

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    • nutomic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And also most of the things you said are simply wrong.

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    • toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      All the people upvote you, it’s only “them” who downvote you. You have a clear picture of the world around you!

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    • SilentDniper@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ew gross, fuck tankies. I’m really confused so both lemmy and piefed are tankie-adjacent?

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  • TidBit@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Piefed provides sections or slices of the fediverse and often is incorporated with mastodon, whereas Lemmy is a much bigger aspect of the overall fediverse. While everyone is entitled to their option how they approach certain topics, Lemmy’s devs have a huge impact on federation protocols, moderation norms, and general user experience across the fediverse!

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  • nesc@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    join.piefed.social/features/

    And it’s not being developed by tankies.

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  • hayvan@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They are similar platforms and they federate, i.e. you can see all Lemmy content with a Piefed account and vice versa.

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• muimota@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Isn’t lemmy the reddit of the fediverse?

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  • GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lemmy and Piefed are both Reddit alternatives. I’m not sure what all the pros and cons are of each, but Lemmy’s developers are tankies so probably better to direct users and funding to a different project. I’m only on Lemmy because I wasn’t aware of Piefed when I first joined.

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• SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  TikTok -> driving rust nails through your nipples

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• umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Also, to avoid doing unpaid labour for Jeff Bezos, go from Goodreads to Bookwyrm!

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  • Doctorbllk@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bookwyrm is cool, it just needs more attention and interaction. It would be cool if it could expand into other forms of media (games, movies) like NeoDB, which again feels like posting into the void.

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  • unknown1234_5@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I'm a little behind on this, what does goodreads have to do with bezos?

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    • insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In 2013 Goodreads was sold to Amazon 😭

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    • umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As pointed out, Goodreads has been owned by Amazon for a good while. And they also own slices of some other similar book sites (LibraryThing, for example, and some other site that was merged into Goodreads).

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  • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s also StoryGraph - it’s not federated, but ran by a tiny UK company, but seems pretty popular. I like the content warnings feature and stuff like readers rating the pacing and moods of the books, which is then displayed with graphs on the book page, but they have also introduced some AI features :/ (fortunately opt-in)

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  • Kalon@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nice suggestion. I didn’t know this was a thing. :)

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• ezeno789@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  :3

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• birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And also don’t forget to donate to your devs!

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  • Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And instance admins!

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• hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Peertube isn’t really a viable alternative. There isn’t a substantial enough audience for creators and there isn’t really enough content for an audience. I guess if you’re one of the 100 people watching transport evolved that’s cool but it isn’t really a meaningful alternative. I suppose it could be supplementary, but why would creators want to drive their traffic to a site that doesn’t actually matter for their visibility? I imagine the same probably applies to loops.

  Also, like, with video you kind of want a reliable host that you know isn’t going anywhere.

  The rest are okay as long as you’re not super worried about how many people are seeing what you post. Lemmy and Piefed are great for content aggregation and discussion, but they seem to be the only ones that at this point actually do anything that might be helpful.

  I’ve tried Mastodon and while it’s way better than Twitter it isn’t exactly providing a way to reach a substantial audience. Personal websites are probably a better bet for ease of access.

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• MintyFresh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve been using lemmy.world with the boost app. Should I look into piefed? Am I missing anything? I mean I’m happy with what I got, but is the grass any greener?

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• MrRandom@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m 1 foot out of Reddit

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• texture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  can anyone eli5 what the difference is from piefeed to lemmy? i have a lemmy account, do i have a use for a piefeed accnt too?

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• bufalo1973@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What I miss is a auth service for all of them. Something like a “common user” where you can have all your Fediverse services under the same user.

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• GMac@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  All the proposed services/technologies would benefit the wider consumer base and the user but switching is too big an ask for many people. We need to encourage people into using “as well as” the global defaults. That will build the network effects that lower the cost of fully switching

  An easier and bigger immediate impact would come from people replacing Chrome and google search with respectful alternatives, and/or replacing gmail or outlook with private services like proton or tuta.
  Starve the surveillance machines a little bit.

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• neo2478@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What’s the difference between Lemmy and piefed, and why should be choose one over the other?

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• Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What’s a good peertube instance that federates with a lot? I tried tldvids but its got like 2 regular uploaders and i cant find most channels I search for.

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• robocall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Every day is a good day to switch

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• deleted@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Tiktok -> tiktok with less content and login required unless you like the 10 videos we have chosen for you.

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• PortableDoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m having troubld findinv good peertube instances, anyone have any recs?

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• OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There doesn’t need to be a replacement for everything. How much does the world need to revolve around a random person’s hot-take in 140 characters or as many seconds. These are artificial walls.

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• AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Is peer tube any good ?

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• SilentDniper@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hello and thank you for making the post! I just joined from reddit and have some questions. I really want to avoid some of the tankies I heard about it on the redditalternative posts.

  One of the lemmy servers recommended had this admin and he made this comment recently about piefed

  I feel like [PieFed] moving from moderation to sort of oppressive or authoritarian territory once you’re literally building a social credit system into your software. If you want that, sure use PieFed. I don’t want that, so I won’t.

  So is PieFed the tankie software or what? I dont’ really want to use software that is going to build a social credit score on me or build barriers to actually use the site

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• Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Crosspost from: !Fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com ( A community for growing the Fediverse )

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• KiloGex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Really wish Loops had an Android app.

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• SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  "But if you have a shitty attitude stay where you are"

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