I agree, and I think it’s a shame it has gotten to this point, but I understand his viewpoint completely and have seen the interactions myself. At this point it’s simply more efficient to promote Piefed on Reddit instead of Lemmy, because you want the absolute least amount of friction for potential new users. Literally any single minor inconvenience/negative thing will cause people to not even consider trying it out. Lemmy has unfortunately already accumulated a reputation, and if you promote it you are very likely to run into comments about tankies which is typically enough to scare potential new users away.
At the end of the day it shouldn’t matter to us which software people use, as long as we get more new users into the ecosystem.
It’s a shame to see that people think of Lemmy creators as some sort of villains.
I created my account on .ml before the Reddit blackout, but there wasn’t much content there, so I didn’t use it much. I properly started using it after the “Reddit blackout,” and that’s when I learned about the so-called “tankie problem.” I’ve met people with weird opinions, but the developers and Marxists in general aren’t bad people. People just usually make a strawmen to argue against.
Anyway, none of their opinions are reflected in the software. Lemmy is done in a truly democratic and user-respectful way, and I respect them for it.
The Lemmy devs? I’d suggest to read what they actually write. The are good guys.
But I also don’t think it matters. For example, I don’t really like the behavior of the Duckstation dev (PS1 emulator). But I don’t have to agree with him in order to use it.
PieFed literally uses a social credit score system and it gets lowered if you post content the Dev doesn’t like. It’s shit. And it’s ugly, people who want a low density enshittified web app interface should be actively filtered out.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Sure but PieFed doesn’t seem to have a tankie problem. They’re blocked from what I’ve seen.
Even if that wasn’t the case, PieFed doesn’t have a reputation for having a tankie problem.
The bottom line is when I promote PieFed I don’t get people on reddit telling me the UI sucked and that it’s flooded with pro-russia propaganda.
So I find it more efficient to promote PieFed
Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Anyone can instance can defederate from any other instance in Lemmy, not that hard to understand.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
I agree, and I think it’s a shame it has gotten to this point, but I understand his viewpoint completely and have seen the interactions myself. At this point it’s simply more efficient to promote Piefed on Reddit instead of Lemmy, because you want the absolute least amount of friction for potential new users. Literally any single minor inconvenience/negative thing will cause people to not even consider trying it out. Lemmy has unfortunately already accumulated a reputation, and if you promote it you are very likely to run into comments about tankies which is typically enough to scare potential new users away.
At the end of the day it shouldn’t matter to us which software people use, as long as we get more new users into the ecosystem.
Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Piefed starts out with poisoning the ecosystem, as linked here quite a few times by redwizard.
nutomic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
People will always find some excuse to do nothing and stay on Reddit. Whether its Lemmy or Piefed you will only ever get a few people to switch.
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Sadly piefed isnt innocent either, they are trying to poison the AP protocol: communick.news/comment/8015757
Shatur@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
It’s a shame to see that people think of Lemmy creators as some sort of villains.
I created my account on .ml before the Reddit blackout, but there wasn’t much content there, so I didn’t use it much. I properly started using it after the “Reddit blackout,” and that’s when I learned about the so-called “tankie problem.” I’ve met people with weird opinions, but the developers and Marxists in general aren’t bad people. People just usually make a strawmen to argue against.
Anyway, none of their opinions are reflected in the software. Lemmy is done in a truly democratic and user-respectful way, and I respect them for it.
Greddan@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Those guys aren’t Marxists, they’re mentally unstable Americans with a fetish authoritarianism.
Shatur@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
The Lemmy devs? I’d suggest to read what they actually write. The are good guys.
But I also don’t think it matters. For example, I don’t really like the behavior of the Duckstation dev (PS1 emulator). But I don’t have to agree with him in order to use it.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
PieFed literally uses a social credit score system and it gets lowered if you post content the Dev doesn’t like. It’s shit. And it’s ugly, people who want a low density enshittified web app interface should be actively filtered out.