Blaze
@Blaze@piefed.zip
- Comment on thelittlethings@lemy.lol - Share little (or big) moments of happiness, appreciation, gratitude 2 days ago:
Maybe !casualconversation@piefed.social ?
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- Comment on Granada 3 days ago:
Good luck!
- Comment on Lead Lemmy developer dessalines@lemmy.ml Appears to Have Had Their Account Compromised After Moderation Actions Raise Serious Concerns 6 days ago:
Yet I still regularly see toxic users being flagged as such, with a 95% accuracy. Either they don’t care or they don’t know enough about the system to bypass it.
- Comment on Lead Lemmy developer dessalines@lemmy.ml Appears to Have Had Their Account Compromised After Moderation Actions Raise Serious Concerns 6 days ago:
The code is open source. Nothing is obscured. The main objective is to identify trolls and toxic users who won’t bother looking at the code.
It’s not a silver bullet, it’s just supposed to grab the low hanging fruit, but it’s fine for me
- Comment on Lead Lemmy developer dessalines@lemmy.ml Appears to Have Had Their Account Compromised After Moderation Actions Raise Serious Concerns 1 week ago:
Piefed doesn’t shadowban:
The reputation system doesn’t shadowban content. You don’t get comments silently autoremoved for having a low reputation. You don’t get throttled either.
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Nice post
- Comment on Piracy communities remain blocked on lemmy.world despite "Unremoval of Piracy Communities" announcement 2 weeks ago:
I am, hope you too!
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
And when you only focus on the edge cases every tool seems insufficient.
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
We’re running in circles at this point. I still have to see an example of a false positive for this system, as a nontoxic user being flagged as such.
- Comment on Piracy communities remain blocked on lemmy.world despite "Unremoval of Piracy Communities" announcement 2 weeks ago:
Oh great, welcome here! 😊 Glad you like it, feel free if you have any questions
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Thank you!
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
But I can’t help but note that the system seems intentionally blind to targeted harassment, which can be a source, if not cause, of bad faith accounts. (And likely those need different approaches since those are also niche cases themselves.)
If you mean using puppet accounts to massively downvote someone, that’s also tracked, but with another tool
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Great !
- Comment on European Memes a community to enjoying memes that celebrate quirks of Europe 2 weeks ago:
Let’s see how it goes.
!madeineurope@lemmy.zip was created recently and the most recent post is a month old
Same for !buyfromeu@europe.pub
People tend to underestimate how much work it takes to keep a community active
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
So with that example: what do the flags do that the content of their posts don’t already communicate?
It warns other users that this commenter may be a bad faith user / troll.
Usually when I encounter a troll, I check their profile to see if they are indeed a troll. The warning saves some time on that, and is accurate the vast majority of the time.
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
Piefed system doesn’t punish those who do not act “the way the creator wants”.
Downvotes given are only actions from the user, no interaction from the Piefed dev.
Downvotes received is feedback from other users, no interaction from the Piefed dev either.
allowing them to do the worst parts of reddit in the fediverse.
Trolls are already around, as you pointed out in another comment. I would rather have a tool that works 80% of the time to detect trolls than no tools at all.
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
Would you rather discard a tool that identifies 90% of trolls just because it doesn’t reach 100% accuracy?
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
While we are talking, example of a user with the two warnings: https://piefed.zip/u/grimreaper@sopuli.xyz
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
The upvote you give yourself is there, but IIRC it doesn’t count for your score.
While we are talking, this is the kind of users who gets the two warnings: https://piefed.zip/u/grimreaper@sopuli.xyz
- Comment on European Memes a community to enjoying memes that celebrate quirks of Europe 2 weeks ago:
Hello,
Isn’t that close to either !yurop@feddit.org or !casualeurope@piefed.social ?
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
Because it’s treated differently in piefed but
Then Piefed is fine?
Especially with instances that love to keep those types around, see world and shit just works.
Instances who tolerate bad faith trolls or bad actors are going to do so with or without tools such as Piefed’s.
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
Emphasis mine. When is it not a sign of toxicity? Rules are defined by their exceptions, so I am curious as to how this exception is navigated, if at all?
In my experience, it is almost always the case, but I said usually in case someone came up with a very unique situation.
Essentially someone who posts with high frequency has a capacity to issue more downvotes without compromising this admittedly imperfect tool.
Are you saying that because they would get more upvotes, they could offset the downvotes they receive? Potentially, but this is where the second metric comes in (giving a lot of downvotes), and as we said, the two are almost always present at the same time.
Now I was never really a reddit user, but the problematic karma farming of accounts associated with that place was directly linked to these kinds of tools and metrics, no?
Karma farming is an issue when users can see karma as an absolute value. It’s not possible on Piefed, which only shows a percentage of attitude (downvotes given, visible to everyone: https://piefed.zip/u/Blaze ) and reputation (downvotes received, visible only to admins)
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
I said it above, but I’ll rephrase:
- a user giving way more downvotes than upvotes than is a sign of toxic behaviour (I insist on “giving”, so the user is the only one doing that action, we are not talking about other people’s actions)
- every time I see a user with warnings, they have both, meaning that they give a lot of downvotes (see previous points), and indeed get downvoted back
The point you are making with people going against the hivemind is related to people receiving a lot of downvotes, but doesn’t explain people giving a lot of downvotes.
Blaze you do so much for the fediverse but defending this type of system is very disappointing to me.
I indeed do a lot, and I’ve seen toxic users going rampant at a few moments. The lemm.ee shutdown due to trolling and toxicity is a sign that we needed a way to identify bad faith trolls and toxic users better to avoid mods and admins burnout.
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
If “going against the hivemind” is insulting people (which is what I’ve seen most of the time with users with both warnings), then it works as intended.
Also, giving a lot of downvotes is usually a sign of toxicity, and that’s only based on the user’s actions, not the downvotes they receives.
And does nothing when the toxic users just say on their own instance or comm
As I said, it’s not a perfect tool. To solve toxic users creating their own communities where they reign alone would require admins stepping in. And in the case you mention, when the person is an admin themselves, there isn’t a lot you can imagine, no tool would be able to address that.
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
https://piefed.blahaj.zone already has downvotes disabled, disabling the reputation warning features as well (you can’t get bad attitude if you can’t give downvotes)
- Comment on How should Lemmy & Piefed handle voting activity from banned/deleted accounts? 2 weeks ago:
Every single time I see someone with a low reputation warning, they are toxic users.
It’s an imperfect tool, but it helps identify trolls and sea lions.
- Comment on What Lemmy/Piefed communities are YOUR personal favourites? 3 weeks ago:
!communitypromo@lemmy.ca has a pinned post
- Comment on What Lemmy/Piefed communities are YOUR personal favourites? 3 weeks ago:
Using and making!
- Comment on Loops is a new short form platform created by Pixelfed creator Daniel Supernault. 3 weeks ago:
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