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Devastated PC builder orders DDR5 RAM from Amazon, receives DDR2 and some weights — counterfeit 32GB kit a worrying sign of rising return and sales fraud

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Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ddr5/sealed-ddr5-kit-sold-on-amazon-reportedly-contained-ddr2-modules-and-a-fake-weight-plate

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  • demizerone@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I have some 128gb ddr5 kit I bought a few years ago. Want to sell it back I’m not going to use it but the scammers be scamming.

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  • ryrybang@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Buying from a reputable operation spares you from a lot of this. Amazon is all hot garbage across the board.

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    • toiletobserver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It wasn’t technology, but i ordered a new mad lib style book for my kid from Amazon. The book arrived with cellophane around it and a nice label that clearly said new. Once opened, it was very obvious the book was used, since the last kid had already filled out the whole damn thing including his name and address inside the cover.

      I’m not mad at the kid, although his parents are probably bad people for returning the book at that point. I am livid that Amazon didn’t flip to any random page in the book too determine if the book was used or not.

      Fuck Amazon.

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      • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Iirc correctly, Amazon actually doesn’t resell their returns. At least not through their storefront.

        They have “return auctions” where returns are put onto a pallet and then people bid on them to purchase. Apparently this is cheaper than having a workflow for their returns, checking them to make sure they are resellable, and then stocking them back into their warehouse.

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    • Beacon@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah this stuff is why i never buy tech from Amazon, you never know if you're gonna get a counterfeit item

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨36⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Supporting giant evil DOES sometimes get you free stuff… I know folks who have accidentally been shipped multiple of what they’re ordering (in two cases, the items were quite expensive) and when they’ve brought it up, they were told to keep the extras.

      Maybe not worth the evil, but hey, free stuff is cool.

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  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    This isn’t exclusive to Amazon. I had it happen with friends build back in the Newegg days.

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    • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨26⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Newegg is still a thing, you just need to check the “Sold by Newegg” filter.

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  • LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No sympathy for anyone who still supports and buys from Amazon.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I hate buying from Amazon and avoid it as much as I can, but one thing I’ve noticed in the last 5-10 years is that brick and mortar stores seem to have given up completely. It is shocking how many times I’ve wanted to buy something, often very common, from popular brands, and I try and find a local store to buy it from only for that store to be out of stock or just not stock it at all. It feels to me like these stores are filled with “stuff” but none of the things I want to buy.

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    • InvalidName2@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      On the one hand, I loathe feeling that way sometimes. On the other hand, for the better part of the past decade+ any criticism I had about Amazon was met with victim blaming white knight replies and basically no support. At best I’m probably more on the ambivalent side of things than the no sympathy side, not that there’s effectively much difference.

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  • brandon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Cost doesn’t seem to matter with return fraud. I recently received a “new” $6 item that had its contents replaced with a $4 item and then taped shut. Seriously, who wastes their time on this stuff?

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    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Probably the same people running Pokémon card hustles. I recently saw a guy acting all pissy he had to wait in line at target to buy some packs, started berating the workers “you work at target, you’re broke as fuck”. The workers actually went in on him, I was so happy to see it. They made fun of him for trying to hustle over cards for children and told him to go home and cry to his mom about it.

      Thats the kind of loser wasting their time on 2-5 dollar profit per return.

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      • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Please sir, do you have a link.

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    • punkwalrus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Keep in mind, whenever you think too hard about these sorts of things, this is one of those operations that could apply to Hanlon’s Razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” Many people make the incorrect assumption of something like, “They must have done some clever supply-chain wizardry," or “There’s a smart cost-reduction plan behind this.” When in reality, a lot of times, the actual explanation is something like a mid-level manager wanted a slide that said “cost savings," then procurement was pressured due to some personality ego problem, engineering objections were ignored, the math was never checked, and in the end, nobody involved actually understood unit economics. Maybe exchanging a $6 part for a $4 looks good in volume, but they only did this 20 times, resulting in $40 of savings which was erased by their reputation and incompetence.

      I have worked government contracts. I have worked with shitty project managers. There’s a lot more of these mistakes than you realize powering economies.

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      • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Maybe I haven’t understood your point but it sounds like you’re describing people both acting maliciously and being stupid about it., so I don’t see it as a case of Hanlon’s razor.

        Exchanging the item for another one that’s cheaper, even if it’s only $6 total, is still dishonest. The fact that it may not even be worth it for them in the end doesn’t change the fact it was an attempt to mislead. They were listing a product, and delivered another one.

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    • Triumph@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Volume and slavery.

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  • Lexam@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think I will just go to Microcenter

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    • SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I wish I had a Microcenter less than 8hrs away. Best Buy is all I have and I am not buying there.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I miss Microcenter

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    • folekaule@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Same. I’m lucky enough to have two within driving distance. I’m genuinely worried about them staying in business if PC building takes a nosedive thanks to the RAM/SSD prices.

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  • kboos1@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why put a weight? DDR2 weight vs DDR5 weight difference wouldn’t be noticeable until they put the weight in because now it would weight 3x what it should. I suspect the person claiming fraud is the one committing fraud or this is a fake article.

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    • asqapro@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The article that this article is based on (found here has pictures showing that the DDR2 sticks had fake heat sinks put on. The weight is behind the fake heat sink to make it feel more authentic. I had the same initial thought as you, but heat sinks add a decent amount of weight.

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    • orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      In case Amazon does weight comparison to the original in the shipping center. They have to be close or the package gets rejected and inspected.

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    • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe they ordered a kit of 2 sticks and they put 1 stick in there

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  • jonathan@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I ordered a 4tb SSD, received an SSD heatsink in the box.

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