Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"

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• finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Good shit, I hope we keep seeing headlines like this nonstop, because you know for sure those AI assholes have bots spamming inboxes with the opposite message.

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• gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  But I thought ai users love ai why wouldn’t they want people to know? (:

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  • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Maybe because of all the brigading/harassment campaigns? If it weren’t for that I’d think this is totally fine, since it’s good for people to be able to know more about what they’re buying.

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    • Sconrad122@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      People are literally murdered IRL for being LGBTQ+. I haven’t seen that be brought up as an argument against having a LGBTQ+ tag on Steam. I think AI users will be OK

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    • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I have recently found a really cool youtube video talking about a reason to not use AI and why some people hate it

      Using AI is obviously not nearly deserving of harassment, but, unfortunately, some people on the internet dont know that

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    • gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Surely ai users know how frequently the technology is used in bad faith and for nefarious purposes

      I think having a problem with the backlash is not a valid reason to avoid disclosing ai use.

      They should be mature and self aware and have a problem with the people and developers obviously misusing the technology so much instead

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• BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I look at the same way I look at game engines. It’s a tool, which if used in the production of the game should be disclosed and let people decide if they want to buy that product or not.

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  • sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’d much rather buy a game made with Godot than Unity. So yeah, list the ingredients

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  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes, we should celebrate transparency. Even if every game includes Ai in development in some shape or form, its good to know what exactly was done. In some cases its even a little less harmless or even acceptable (like generating meaningless terrain) than in other cases.

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  • CannonFodder@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Check out demos, read reviews. If it’s good it’s good, if it’s bad it’s bad. What does it matter how it was made?

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    • catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Because AI-gened voices and graphics are terrible in their own right. They’re super unnatural and casually wander into Uncanny Valley.

      Also I’m not paying for a product that wasn’t human-made. I don’t want to support those who waste their time talking to a chatbot like a moron.

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    • BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Which demos? Those are long dead on Steam. Demos are now basically paid early access releases…

      It’s one of the quality indicators. Just like the game engine. E.g. I know Bethesda games will have shit performance and be bug ridden because they use Creation Engine.

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    • HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You wanna try out the new Soylent Green?

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• NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I would bet that the steam client has at least 1 line of ai generated code in it.

  Where’s their disclaimer?

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  • BillBurBaggins@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why would you disclose one line of AI code. It’s unidentifiable and meaningless. Like saying you don’t want code where auto complete was used and every character must be written by a human finger.

    Kind of like using AI to place one single pixel in an image.

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    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Because their forcing the clients to disclose any use of AI for any kind of content including, art, sound and code.

      That would include 1 line.

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• chunes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I expect devs to disclose when they use photoshop, IDEs with autocomplete, and store-bought assets as well. Starting to sound silly? That’s because it is

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because store bought assets are still quality assets not a human made. The only reason it sounds silly is because you went out of your way to make it silly.

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• BurgerBaron@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Tim sure is an odd dog. I just don’t get where this unearned confidence to shit talk comes from.

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  • qupada@fedia.io ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Money. Money is where it comes from.

    "I am rich, therefore my opinion is valid and you should listen to me"

    EXTREMELY LOUD 'INCORRECT' BUZZER

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes but

      pays the buzzer guy to play the “correct” sound effect

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• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Is there an asset flip disclosure?

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  • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nearly all games use assets, would be pointless.

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    • nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Asset flips refers to low quality project that use all store-bought assets without providing any uniqueness whatsoever on gameplay.

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    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Okay, so, complex projects having a small part you didn’t make doesn’t matter?

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• thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s not seen often that Valve reacts to public comments.

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  • jonathan@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Valve hasn’t reacted.

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    • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s a Valve employee.

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• AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  BrikoX, this is unsponsored opinions, change the title.

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• Tronn4@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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