Enforcing that ban is going to be difficult.
Jack Dorsey Releases Vine Reboot Where AI Content Is Banned
Submitted 9 hours ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://futurism.com/future-society/jack-dorsey-vine-reboot-ai-content-banned
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henfredemars@lemdro.id 8 hours ago
scytale@piefed.zip 8 hours ago
They’re gonna use AI to detect the use of AI.
Krompus@lemmy.world 23 minutes ago
Ouroboros
henfredemars@lemdro.id 8 hours ago
Not if I use AI to hide my use of AI first!
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
Well the AI-based AI detector isn’t actively making creative people’s work disappear into a sea of gen-AI “art” at least.
There’s good and bad use cases for AI, I consider this a better use case than generating art. Now the question is whether or not it’s feasible to detect AI this way.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Just the threat of being able to summarily remove AI content and hand out account discipline will cut down drastically on AI and practically eliminate the really low effort ‘slop’, it’s not perfect but it’s damn useful.
FaceDeer@fedia.io 6 hours ago
It's also going to make it really easy to take down the content you don't like, just accuse it of being AI and watch the witch hunting roll in. I've seen plenty of examples of traditional artists getting accused of using AI in other forums, I don't imagine this will be any different.
osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 8 hours ago
Only if we let it be. There's no technical reason why the origin of a video couldn't have a signature generated by the capture device, or legally requiring AI models to do the same for any content they generate. Anything without an origin sticker is assumed to be garbage by default. Obviously there would need to be some way to make captures either anonymous or not at the user's choice, and nation states can evade these things with sufficient effort like they always do, but we could cut a lot of slop out by doing some simple stuff like that.
kinsnik@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
while a phone signing a video to show that it was captured with the camera is possible, it will be easy too to fake the signature. all it would take would be a hacked device to steal the private key. and even if apple/google/samsung have perfectly secure systems to sign the origin of the video, there would be ton of cheaper phones that would likely won’t.
pennomi@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
“Legally” doesn’t mean shit if it’s not enforceable. Besides, removing watermarks is trivial.
There is no technically rigorous way to filter AI content, unfortunately.
edryd@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Just because something might be hard means we should give up before even trying?
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
It would be great if ALL social media platforms banned that garbage.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
Or just had a filter to hide it. I don’t feel like banning something from everyone just because I personally don’t like it.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 58 minutes ago
I would and I’d have no problem with it at all. If people want AI slop, they can go find it where it is allowed.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Hmmmm, must not be American.
SouthFresh@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Loops ftw
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
What’s Loops?
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
TikTok but without users.
compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
A Fediverse platform for short form video, made by the guy who makes Pixelfed
SouthFresh@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Vine, but federated!
Concave1142@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Banned for now…
ozoned@piefed.social 8 hours ago
Another walled garden that will fracture the system even more and give even more credit to the open social web.
Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
It is on nostr, I don’t like the protocol very much but it is decentralised
snooggums@piefed.world 8 hours ago
Is it decentralized like the fediverse or 'decentrslized' like bluesky?
baduhai@sopuli.xyz 8 hours ago
Except it’s not a walled garden, it’s built on nostr.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
divine.video - For people who want to see for themselves.
logicbomb@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
In the main picture, about half of those videos use filters that do something based on the location of the person’s head. Unless they’ve changed the definition since I went to college, that would be classified as a type of computer vision, aka AI.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
Yeah they just mean the more layperson understanding of AI as in AI-generated content or as YouTube Studio dubs it: “synthetic media” (pretty good term imo)
Basically just stuff that was “generated”.
I’m sure transformative use of ML like filters etc. would be fine. Even incorporation of generated elements in otherwise a normal video would be fine.
snooggums@piefed.world 8 hours ago
Weird Al is gonna be devastated!
otacon239@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
What’s that guy need so much water for anyway?!?!?
chrash0@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
it’s already the case that the distinction between what’s “AI” and what isn’t is a subjective, aesthetic difference and not a technical one
Chronographs@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Detecting it is difficult but what actually is or isn’t AI should be pretty cut and dry. Either nothing completely generated, or no footage edited using generative ai (depending on how strict you want to be with your ban)
chrash0@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
what about when the neural networks that power the DSP modules in all modern cell phones cameras? does a neural network filter that generates a 3D mesh or rather imposes a 3D projection, eg putting dog ears on yourself or Memojis, count? what if i record a real video and have Gemini edit the white balance? i don’t think it’s as cut and dry as most people think
mrdown@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
6 seconds vids. What a joke
y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
Lol the original vine is still my favorite dead platform. The comedy you can produce in 6 seconds is great.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
It forces creativity, and sudden endings to things can be funny. I think it’s a better format than the long-ass “shorts” on YT or TikTok for short-form video content. Make it 6 seconds or make it 30 minutes.
shalafi@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I like that the 7 second limit forces creativity. We shall see where this goes. Bet uploaded videos just get posted to more popular sites.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 hours ago
Or simplicity and reductive thought
shalafi@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Not it you want something impactful. Creativity and editing are tough to pack into 7 seconds.
toiletobserver@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Maeve@kbin.earth 6 hours ago
Jack Dorsey can kick rocks.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Jack Dorsey 🤢
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
So what’s the angle? The Internet is getting flooded by AI slop. AI needs fresh REAL content to train with. That’s the angle. You are there to provide frsh amd original content to feed the AI.