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A haha and a fuck you to the Reddit idiots who said we’d be back a week after leaving the platform due to the API shitstorm.
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Submitted 3 weeks ago by theHRguy@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
victorz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can’t be back after I deleted my account can I. 😎 No, no, I will never be back on Reddit. I mean I want to. There’s a lot of content there that I’m missing out on that genuinely interests me. But I will not. I feel confident here. I feel welcome, at home.
There’s also the added benefit of being off my phone more since there isn’t as much content here.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
That last sentence. It was truly an addiction that would lose me 3-4 hours a day. I get so much more shit done now.
M137@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
From the little I’ve seen (or more had to be exposed to) they are 100% convinced that Lemmy is like 10 people and nothing else exists. They’re so walled in, much of those walls being built by themselves.
On a vaguely related note, reddit has been so deeply shit now for long enough where it has stopped being a good source of info. It used to be such a good place to find just about any info via a search but now the results are just so fucking weird. Trying to find stuff about new-ish games, tech support, recommendations for anything etc. has become so much harder now.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
also the lemmyee apocalypse that happened like 2 months ago, theres less content, because every dispersed to other similar platforms that interact with lemmy,. plus i have been blocking alot of people that may also reduce content too.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
now because of the massive bans waves, you cant go back anyways, even if you were not banned. the AI can " accidentally" ban you for botting.
Artisian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The 2020 study published in Computers in Human Behavior analyzed the top 100 subreddits — the most influential communities on the entire platform. Their finding? 15% of these subreddits contained content likely posted by bots or corporate trolls specifically designed to promote companies or organizations.
“15% of all subreddits contained corporate bot content” is very different than “15% of all content”
This also doesn’t really give a whole picture. How much of this content actually trends? There’s always some corporate sludge at 0 points if you sort by New, which is how the site is supposed to work. And even some stuff that gets brute forced through is “Hey fellow kids” level obvious and gets trolled or removed by mods.
And while Reddit right now is a soulless husk, all of these things need to be studied on Lemmy as well. Right now there’s probably not much because we’re just not a big target, but as it grows it’s certain that corporate shills and propaganda farms will start to target us. Like I’m not opposed to the general idea of the research, but it really needs to be more specific and in-depth to be helpful
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And even some stuff that gets brute forced through is “Hey fellow kids” level obvious and gets trolled or removed by mods.
Or you’re experiencing the toupee phenomenon. you only notice the obvious ones.
Artisian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Note their methodology for this study, afaict, also would entirely miss subtle stuff.
Either the point about frequency is valid, or this is a weak headline, no?
MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m not saying there aren’t subtle ones that get through, I’m just saying that there’s nothing in the report distinguishing between the obvious shill and disguised advert
frongt@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Not 15% of all subreddits, 15% of the top 100 that they studied.
Artisian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I still remember the time of the great Miele shilling by the vacuum repair guy. Every thread about vacuums had the same conversation about how only this single company is the best company of all. It worked, my brother bought one of those vacuums.
Supervisor194@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In the age of LLMs, it’s pretty well guaranteed that it’s going to be far worse than described in a study from five years ago. Anecdotally, it feels to me like closer to half if not more of the responses I get are engagement bait. It’s not just corpo, a lot of it is government trolls trying to shape opinion, our government and foreign governments. I don’t post anymore at all - just read - and that only in my very niche communities that aren’t likely to be targeted for this kind of bullshit.
orioler25@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Very important to point out with this that Reddit has gotten markedly more fascist in these past three years – which is saying something – even while there is inexplicably a large number of people who call it “left-leaning” on the platform itself. It is safe to say that a high amount of “user”-content is bots of some kind, and that platforms that have high numbers of bots tend to become more conservative and fascist.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
It’s both left leaning and fascist, because the left want fascism as long as it’s controlled by them.
grue@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
only in my very niche communities that aren’t likely to be targeted for this kind of bullshit.
I think that’s a point that deserves more attention. Considering the “long tail” of niche communities and that the propaganda surely isn’t evenly distributed, it’s very possible that the big default and political subs are mostly propaganda and other shilling at this point.
orioler25@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Another good thing to point out. If you have the time to interact with those communities, it’s demonstrably populated primarily by bot-like content. Even more, moderation tends to be more opaque and aggressive against leftist comments or posts.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 weeks ago
New Study
Study is from 2018 lol
aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That explains why the number is so low.
ReHomed@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
I was gonna say, I’ve been on Reddit for quite a bit, and it feels like SO MUCH SHIT is astroturfed
If we were to update the stats, it’s gotta be like 50%
Yareckt@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
And it doesn’t even contain the words ‘15’, ‘fifteen’ or ‘reddit’. The author is probably citing ChatGpt.
DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
BULLSHIT. It’s closer to 50% and the admins have been purchased by GOP billionaires. Fuck that platform and those limp dick admins. I hope that when the revolution kicks off they don’t forget about those SF basement pussies.
TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well, 50% is “at least 15%”.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
How dare you read the article.
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
When you’re thinking 50%, you’re thinking about the content you actually see. But you likely don’t see more than 5% of reddit’s content - the stuff that goes on in all the smaller subreddits.
15% of the whole site is an absurdly high number.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Only 15%?
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
95% is technically ‘at least’ 15%
Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The rest are Russian bots
edible_funk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There’s a metric fuck ton of them here on lemmy too.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Literal study: “most of rhe propaganda on social media comes from private companies”
Lemmitors “ThE pRoBlEm Is RuZzIa”
Keep blaming a third country for all your endogenous problems.
nosuchanon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The study is from 2018. I’m sure Reddit has had plenty of time to get those stats up. 15% is rookie numbers.
Yareckt@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
Not even that. While the article claims that the linked study isn’t even about reddit.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’d say most of “askreddit” is buzzfeed staff looking for article material.
CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
On a thread about healthcare today, I watched my comment against the insurance industry get 100% upvoted two dozen times in a couple minutes and then suddenly freeze and only accept downvotes while I was immediately engaged by somebody calling me a soft brain. I then called that out and predicted an incoming [Removed by Moderator] which of course happened like five minutes later.
We’re really mean to believe that the site magically changed to a conservative corporate glazing community in such a short time? Yeah, bullshit.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I’ve simulated reddit here
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
removed by god
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
removed by big pharma
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
removed by u/spez
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
removed by big brother
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I figured the % would be significantly higher, like 40% at this rate.
Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hidden post and comment history is the worst thing Reddit has done. It allows much more of it than was noticed in the 5 year old study
etherphon@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
And the rest are Government trolls and regular trolls.
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They be trying on here as well. Bots and obvious people working for a government to push a narrative.
Naich@lemmings.world 2 weeks ago
/r/hailcorporate was underestimating it if anything.
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That little? I would have thought it was much, much higher. Almost everything on every social media sites is marketing barely in disguise.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Definitely not because going public shifted their obligations to trying to make as much money as possible
BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is fairly harmless compared to the government trolls. Pretty much every Canada related subreddit has been dealing with a slurry of xenophobic posts from brand new accounts with hidden post history. The better subreddits quickly ban or lock them but several let them go as they reinforce the moderator’s own worldview. Not even the Costco Canada subreddit is safe.
saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This more insane than the great taste of RAT COLA. THE ONLY BRAND THAT MAKES YOU SCURRY LIKE A RAT.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It says in the article
15% of these subreddits contained content likely posted by bots or corporate trolls specifically designed to promote companies or organizations.
The title is just misinfo I guess
Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Its way higher than 15%
ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Keep in mind it may not strictly be content posting, but also vote manipulation. If you have a message you want to push, you can just upvote favorable messages to try to make whatever agenda seem a lot bigger than it really is.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I was in a thread about vacuum recommendations and three bot accounts had a problem with me calling Dysons loud.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That they could detect. The actual number is probably a little higher.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Every day I’m so much more thankful for Lemmy existing. Joining the exodus when third-party reddit apps died has been great for my overall online experience. Lemmy may not have the traffic that reddit does, but the quality of posts here and the community makes up for that.
I love encountering people I recognize in random posts. Found some comments about my horse in a post on a community separate from the one I post pics of her in and the post had nothing to do with her. Made me feel really happy to stumble across that. You can’t get that kinda wholesome shit with reddit.
Threeskittiesinatrenchcoat@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
r/Canada and Postmedia
Been happening for years.
BanMe@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And 100% of Reddit management thinks that’s great
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
15 years ago I was offered money to write an app for shilling on reddit. I didn’t accept the job.
This is not new.
atmorous@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
To think if we did not have some alternatives to those legacy media apps it would be a lot worse
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How is this news?
We should coordinate the destruction of reddit with garbage content so the AI is trained with more useless slop
kreskin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How does one become a corporate troll?
dhork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Plot twist: this is just corporate shilling, too, trying to convince us it’s only 15%…
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I know you are kidding but “15% are corporate shills” is verrrry generous to reddit in my experience. Reddit is a dead husk.
db2@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’d be genuinely shocked if it was less than 50%.
sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
I hate reddit like any warm blooded fediverse fan but I cannot deny that if you wanna talk about, say, some obscure punk band’s third record released in 2003 thats where you gotta go
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Same exact jokes made by ~30 day old accounts, that have been copy and pasted from older reposts.
Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Eh, people over at Reddit have some serious hair triggers on accusing someone of being a shill. I’ve been accused dozens of times.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Idk, reddit has always had a fairly strong libertarian undercurrent. Wouldn’t surprise me in the corporate glazing is genuine.
Openopenopenopen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
That’s very different from 15% of all reddit content being that.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is before LLMs (2022 is the Internet LLMpocalypse) so I imagine this number has increased significantly.
Search Engines have been nearly completely obliterated by AI SEO, I find it hard to believe that social media manipulation hasn’t exploded just as much. It’s just more subtle.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
its 50% in 2023, and its most likely more now. i remember there was a reddit post a few years ago, saying it was 50% already.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nice one!
Yareckt@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
As the study that the author refers to does not seem to exist and he links to a study that does not justify any of the statistical claims of the article, the number is likely fake.
Artisian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just noting that the links inside the article seem to be wrong: lemmy.world/post/38174729/20270142