Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales isn’t worried about Elon Musk’s Grokipedia: ‘Not optimistic he will create anything very useful right now’

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• antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  He also gave the example of a German Wiki community member who wrote a program to verify the ISBN numbers of books cited, and was able to trace notable mistakes to one person. That person ultimately confessed they had used ChatGPT to find citations for text references and the LLM “just very happily makes up books for you,” Wales said.

  Well this won’t be a problem with Grokipedia, because it only uses sources that are available online as pure text (I’m pretty sure not even PDFs are used by it).

  Wales thinks the public and the media often give Wikipedia too much credit. In its early days, he says, the site was never as bad as the jokes made about it. But now, he says, “We are not as good as they think we are. Of course, we are a lot better than we used to be, but there is still so much work to do.”

  Amen, it’s nice to see the level-headedness.

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• biotin7@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Remember that Elon overpromises & underdelivers

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not really.

    Remember that Elmo just lies his ass off almost all the time.

    Over promises and under delivery are such extreme understatements with him, almost everything bhe says is just pure imaginary bullshit

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    • biotin7@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Speaking of SpaceX, ISRO was able to come up with a design of a Reusable-launch vehicle in half the price & did it way before them

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  • AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Literally. With everything. In every business he touches. Yet the stock goes up. It’s stupid.

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    • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hmm it seems the speculative market loves speculation rather than actual results…

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• A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  ‘Not optimistic he will create anything very useful right now’

  Or ever create anything (he’s just stealing other people’s creations)

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  • overload@sopuli.xyz ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Truly the Thomas Edison of the 21st century.

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    • regedit@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      He thinks he’s Nikolai Tesla, but yeah, he’s the other guy!

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They’ll say aw Topsy at my autopsy!

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  • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He is not just strealing other people’s creations. He is also giving them incredibly lame names.

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    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just listened to someone attempt a Freudian analysis on the X that he seems so obsessed with. It was trite.

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  • Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Stealing and enshittifying

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• kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Jimmy Wales: Libertarian that ended up creating perhaps the most successful collectivist project of all time.

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  • MrMakabar@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Reading his Wiki page, he does sound rather reasonable. Support for Occupy Wallstreet, running as a UK Labour candidate, openly calling not to elect Trump and also calling the US Libertarian Party “lunatics”.

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  • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    this is a perfect example of why we should always allow an escape space for everyone. Sometimes that person in the space you are polar opposed too will create something that defies even their own rules

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    • antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lemmy itself is a good example of this. Most of the userbase heavily disagrees with the main developers’ political opinions, yet the software works well for everyone.

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    • snowboardbumvt@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In what way does Wikipedia defy Jimmy Wales own rules?

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• eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’ll effect things as much Conservapedia does. A laughing stock to gawk at and nothing more.

  I bet by the end of next year it’s dead.

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not to sure about the latter part.

    Elmo will be bankrupt in not too much time but for the moment he has pockets so deep he single handedly could fund wikipedia for the next millenia. For as long as he isn’t bankrupt and alive, that turd will be around

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• DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Musk is just Nazi-washing what he stole from Wikipedia, he doesn’t have the base of volunteers and employees to maintain his latest toy. A year from now, it will be gone and forgotten, and we’ll all be shouting at each other to go vote.

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  • fonix232@fedia.io ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Guess Conservapedia wasn't conservative enough.

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    • gedaliyah@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, they already have Metapedia for that.

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• koshka@koshka.ynh.fr ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s going to become an AI written clone of Wikipedia with all the personal opinions of Elon mixed in. I don’t see it going anywhere.

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  • NotSteve_@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you check it out, its not going to become that because it IS that. Its all AI rewritten articles from Wikipedia with Elon’s alt right biases applied. Some of the less political pages aren’t even really rewrites but just copy/pastes

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• PlanterTree@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What does Grokipedia say on the genocide in South Africa?

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  • MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    well, the website only has one button, that redirects to the actions of Grokipedia with the options to buy or sell some.

    I guess you have to interact with their actions to use the thing?

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It will be a another propaganda mouthpiece, and have all the credibility of Fox News.

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  • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or conservapedia, the fox news of wikipedias.

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• LillyPip@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s not about making something useful. He and a few others are cloning everything any of their cult might use to further fence them in from external information and entertainment.

  They’re having a harder time in entertainment, because artists tend to be more liberal, but they’re gaining ground there, too. After a certain point, they’ll just radically censor everything else.

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  • Bristlecone@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is what scares me. The fact that they are doing it at all. It’s providing more spaces for people to shut themselves in completely with the information they want. These fucking desperate bigots will never be satisfied until the entire world reflects their bigoted ass beliefs, but since that will never happen they will fight a civil war for Elon out of sheer ignorant self obsession, instead

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• BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They are going to come Wikipedia, then use some flimsy excuse to get it shut down. He’ll position Nazipedia to replace it.

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  • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Then it will spring up again since the entire database is freely available.

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    • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s going to be very hard to maintain with a cohesive group of editors if it’s fractured in to different servers with everyone hosting a different copy. The current data may live on, but it’ll be a zombie.

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• _stranger_@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  little hilter needs his LIEbensraum

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