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If websites are slow for you, this is why, AWS is breaking everything

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Submitted ⁨⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

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  • thatonecoder@lemmy.ca ⁨56⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    …and I did not even notice it, aside from the news here.

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  • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Amazon sneases, the whole internet catches a cold.

    Im still seeing services up/down the entire day at work. Services that are not even AWS like Azure are slow for some reason (probably businesses failing over to other infa). Its crazy.

    None of our in office infa is having issues. Managers are talking about fail-overs all day lol.

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    • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      When a handful of people own all the companies in the world, the whole world becomes a single point of failure.

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      • PoopMonster@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Soon: "Welcome to Amazon, I love you.

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    • Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There are some downstream / knock on effects going on which can be explained…but I can’t help but wonder if today’s story is bigger than just AWS. AWS saying it was an outage of a “few hours” for DynamoDB and DNS…and that doesn’t line up all that great with what people are reporting in the wild . I’m not trying to start a conspiracy theory, just wondering what the post mortems will tell us, if anything. Obviously the suits want to keep embarrassing fuckups downplayed as much as possible.

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      • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Its crazy, we are seeing unrelated services stop sending emails, issues with DNS, all sorts of strange stuff.

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      • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They want to keep the news of the rally over the weekend as quiet as possible.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      games were affected online, plus apps, and then anyone in retail who does inventory, order writing.

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  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s almost as if centralizing everything is fucking stupid.

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    • innermachine@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But the bean counters said it was the best idea!

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  • gedaliyah@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Maybe it was a bad idea for society to put 90% of the internet on one company’s infrastructure.

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  • Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Let’s take a decentralized network and centalize it! Nothing will surely go wrong.

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  • darvocet@infosec.pub ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Jesus Amazon is a big enough company they should be doing their own hosting not using AWS.

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    • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They’re big enough to be a utility and be nationalized!

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      • Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And should be

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    • ignirtoq@fedia.io ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Amazon is using their own hosting. AWS stands for Amazon Web Services. Or did I miss the joke?

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      • kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        I for one don’t think you missed anything

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      • darvocet@infosec.pub ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Miss

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    • Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Once upon a time they insisted that Amazon had independent decision making on their providers when they were needing new infrastructure and they “always decided that AWS suited them best.”

      Shockingly (/s), they stopped making that claim as soon right about the same time they started admitting that their biggest users are all under Private Pricing Agreements.

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  • Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So Roblox is the only of those companies that can handle proper region failover if us-east-1 shits the bed? You young ops have gotten soft! Learn to live by ChaosMonkey or die by the Gorilla.

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    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, but proper failover and recovery requires additional infrastructure, and that costs money.

      Hopefully a bunch of risk management people are writing I-told-you-so emails to C-suites right now.

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      • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah but not to worry, C-suites have pretty good filtering rules in place to never read them. Saves time, really.

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      • Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yup, and some things which can be moved cannot be done automatically, quickly or easily…even if you are prepared. AWS is a huge suite of products and services, and there’s a lot of old legacy shit running on it. I wouldn’t punch down on the ops for this one. Cybersecurity and disaster recovery are not directly profitable, so they are almost always neglected in your average shop.

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    • Chozo@fedia.io ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So Roblox is the only of those companies that can handle proper region failover if us-east-1 shits the bed?

      Either that, or the reports stopped coming in since it's a school day.

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    • SSUPII@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Roblox doesn’t really lock down regions unless they are China. The game client can connect to any server they own. It naturally falls back to the server with the least issues without prompts and intervention.

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    • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think they’re the only ones doing multi-cloud. If us-east-1 shits the bed, it’s a bad day for AWS in general.

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  • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s kind of telling when Amazon services like Ring, Prime Video, and Alexa failed over pretty quickly, but everything else just didnt.

    There’s no conspiracy here. It’s just highlighting that Amazon could prepare for AWS outages in a region, but since everything auth related was on us-east-1, everything else went down.

    Shortcuts are costly.

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  • PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Figma balls wheeeyyyy

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Figma

      of your imagination?

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    • arschflugkoerper@feddit.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It seems that there is not a single original thought in that head of mine.

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      • PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        doesn’t matter bro, they’re your thoughts and that’s what makes them awesome 😊

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Alright…

      crushes your balls with ginger root which makes them burn

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why does Amazon use AWS?

    I thought they had an in-house solution.

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    • criss_cross@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A lot of AWS are wrappers over said in house solutions

      And there’s a push to move off of those to proper AWS

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  • thepompe@ttrpg.network ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The cloud was a scam for people with more money than sense.

    Most people hosting things on the cloud, like Fediverse services, would be better off selfhosting and buying the hardware themselves.

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Self hosting requires an immense amount of specialized knowledge and time…

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      • thepompe@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It really doesn’t, and certainly not more than running something on AWS.

        In fact, hosting on cloud infrastructure adds layer of complexity.

        I stand by my original assertion.

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      • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I got started self-hosting last week when I got ahold of a smal Lenovo ThinkCentre. I installed Proxmox on it and if I want to self-host something I just spin up a container or virtual machine on the Proxmox system. It’s so much easier than installing self-hosted projects on bare metal. And if you want to change things around then just disable or delete the container/vm and let Proxmox stay clean. If one container breaks the rest of the system will still function.

        I could easily host Lemmy from home with Proxmox and a reverse proxy with my current setup. I am not going to because I am not interested in moderating a platform and all the responsibility that comes with it, but it’s very possible to do.

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  • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Bottom left

    figma ballz hahaha gotem

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  • Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Shit, none of my websites are slow. Fuck Amazon

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  • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Diversity is a strength.

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  • dan69@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m okay to blame bozos.

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  • Ferrous@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Heh. Say what you will about Roblox (plenty of stuff), but seems like their infrastructure is on lock.

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  • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not my ancestors!

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