What do you mean “tragic”?
Tragic Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site
Submitted 5 months ago by cyrano@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
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0x0@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
dantheclamman@lemmy.world 5 months ago
A tragedy is an event of great loss, usually of human life. Such an event is said to be tragic. Traditionally, the event would require “some element of moral failure, some flaw in character, or some extraordinary combination of elements” to be tragic.
To me this is tragic even in the Greek sense
ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Well, that kid didn’t ask to be there, so that’s pretty tragic.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
I’d say “expected” might be a more fitting issue.
KneeTitts@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Define “tragic”
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Spoiler: Nothing about the crash was on it, but it’s cool that it survived.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
They should have built the hull out of SanDisk cards.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 months ago
Or old school Nokias…
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I still have one of those. I use it to split bricks when I’m putting up a wall.
ook@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
I’d go for a mix of 50% sd cards and 50% controllers. Maybe 40/60, science is not decided yet.
Nikls94@lemmy.world 5 months ago
[deleted]burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
I would feel bad if we had to kill a very young adult and respectable frenchman for every three asshole-rich fat cats. Maybe I’m wrong about the frenchman, but I don’t recall him being rich, just the ‘expert’ on the dive. I think tragic still applies for them.
Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Well, he’s probably “rich” in that he has acquired his own wealth, but I don’t think that’s what you mean.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That even a depth rated camera is broken can easily explained with the point that the implosion produced shock waves with pressure spikes easily exceeding the official ratings of the camera.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Taking bets on the last data recorded on it. I’m going with “0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0…”
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Encrypted. Was a whole thing to recover the keys from a damaged board, only to find old videos and photos from previous dives.
Apparently they were streaming the video to the inside of the sub, so it wasn’t saved to that card.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Damn, that’s promotional material that SanDisk would probably not want to have.
ours@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Nah, more like great promo material for the camera that survived the whole mess mostly intact.
Too bad they dropped the ball by not having the decryption keys for the actual video on the card.
Nomecks@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
New form of key compression unlocked!
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 months ago
sd is so sturdy it can withstand pressures of depts at 12000ft.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Why? It wasn’t there submersible, their product wasn’t responsible for its destruction and frankly there is very little in the way of public sympathy.
The product is not even rated as waterproof and yet it’s survived months at the bottom of the ocean after having survived a destructive implosion.
That’s hella marketing.
dev_null@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
The marketing is more for the submersible camera that survived, just like it was designed to do, the SD card was just inside the camera and no water even touched it. I don’t think the SD card should be getting any credit.
Ronno@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Why not? If anything, it shows how durable their product is. If it were my company, I would market the shit out of this.
adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
It shows how durable their product is… when stored in an enclosure designed to protect it. The SD card probably didn’t even experience an increase in air pressure.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Tragic?
architect@thelemmy.club 5 months ago
I think it’s more like what are the chances it fails while we’re in it? Fuck it.
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Considering that is basically the only time it could fail, I would say the chances were pretty high.
Taldan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The main issue with the Titan wasn’t as much the depth as it was cyclic loading
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
No, it was entirely the depth. They tested it in the lab and saw many failures but never changed the design.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
The tragedy is that more of these rich people don’t test that belief against reality.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 months ago
At least two billionaires keep firing rockets into space as a hobby. It’s only a matter of time.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Trying to do extreme engineering on the cheap.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 months ago
it was DIY from start o finish on the craft.
BanMe@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This was a reverse tragedy.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
There was a tragedy. One billionaire forcing their child to die
AbsoluteAggressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Gotta love that SD technology. Now if only we could build a sub with it.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 months ago
shouldve made the sub out of layers of sd cards.
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Just make the next sub out of SD cards, Nokia 3310 phones, and a Logitech controller.
AbsoluteAggressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Fuck it. Mad Catz w/ turbo
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Scott Manley has a one hour video going over all of this, including the ridiculous redaction of
James Cameronproviding expert testimony by first saying he directed The AbyssTaldan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
James Cameron is genuinely a world expert on submersibles. He made The Abyss and Titanic because he loves the deep sea
He made Titanic solely as an excuse to go down to the Titanic and film the wreck. He didn’t even have an idea for the story when he pitched the movie
Then he became the first person to ever design and dive his own submersible to Chellenger Deep, and only the second ever submersible to reach that depth (after the US Navy’s Trieste)
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 months ago
He’s definitely an expert, I just thought it was funny they redacted his name like we wouldn’t know who he was.
CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 5 months ago
lol he first said he directed Titanic.
Psythik@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Could someone please post the pics? The website claims that I could click “see more” to view them, but nothing happens when I do that.
Geodad@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Spared no expense…
d3lta19@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Kinda seems like it was the right call if it survived an implosion
Geodad@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yeah, but 512 GB? That’s gotta be overwriting some data. The amount of data generated by sensors is massive.
RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
“Somewhat disappointingly, the images and videos shared in the report were taken in the vicinity of the ROV shop at the Marine Institute”
There, saved you a long read
brsrklf@jlai.lu 5 months ago
“and you can buy that exact SD card model for the low, low price of $62.99 on Amazon!!!”
That might not be the weirdest, most awkward product placement I ever saw, but close.
Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 5 months ago
“I don’t travel on potentially doomed subs without these 10 things from amazing, you won’t believe how cheap number 1 is!!”
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 5 months ago
Ads are getting insane. Youtuber making skits in the middle of their video to promote some garbageis dystopian as fuck to me. Mentioning product and where to buy it to what price, what is this shit, war of the worlds?
thepompe@ttrpg.network 5 months ago
It’s all about conditioning people to accept having shit shoved in their face.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 months ago
tbf, finding your product still working after the implosion is already amazing publicity
xthexder@l.sw0.com 5 months ago
The SD card was from inside a titanium cased underwater camera that was mounted outside the hull. It wasn’t actually in the implosion, it just survived the shockwave (which was probably 1000s of Gs, so still impressive)
Tetsuo@jlai.lu 5 months ago
I recommend this great video from Scott Manley on the NTSB report :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMUjCZ7MMWQ
He also has a previous video that is more speculative before the report but very interesting anyway.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Tragic? What was tragic about it? It were just some insanely rich doing something insanely stupid: dive in an untested home made tube built from rejected discarded build materials to dive to insane depths to disrupt a protected monument of something which killed thousands.
thepompe@ttrpg.network 5 months ago
I hate rich people too, but this is a reddit-tier comment.
shiroininja@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There was also a famous ocean explorer on board they were using as a prop for their company. He’d done great work exploring shipwrecks previously and not a billionaire
sudo@lemmy.today 5 months ago
And despite his knowledge and experience, chose to join the haphazard mission in pursuit of something he apparently valued more than the risks. So it sounds like he made a very clear choice and was dealt the expected hand from said choice.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 months ago
I think maybe the point about the Kid is being missed. . Mmmmmm
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yeah, hating on the kid simply because his dad has money forces him into an us-vs-them situation. It does nothing to help.
Not to mention it is exceedingly gross to cheer the death of someone just because their dad has money.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 months ago
“Then I stepped back and gave them space to set [Suleman] up, because he really wanted to go,” she said."
This is from the mom in a BBC article. And he was 19 not a kid.
LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Nah the young people are laughing about this as much as anyone else.
theneverfox@pawb.social 5 months ago
Yeah, no. Kids want to be cool and respected, making it clear billionaires are hated will do so much more to wake them up
And once a billionaire gives it all away to become just a normal person (with a few million in the bank as a safety net), we make them a hero
IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The kid that was killed didn’t want to be there. He was terrified. He only went because rich daddy insisted & paid for him to come along. That’s tragic.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 months ago
He did according to his mom’s statement to BBC and he was 19.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Still a super rich kid who got everything he ever wanted, except for this instance.
buffaloupperclass@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
It originally was an SSD drive
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That sticker “pressure tested” on the camera housing is not lying
Paragone@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Why TF are resources being wasted on digging it up??
Idiocy.
There are REAL needs, in this world, & throwing MORE resources after that narcissist-machiavellian’s coffin isn’t justifiable.
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elucubra@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Time to order a few SanDisk cards
Feddinat0r@feddit.org 5 months ago
I read titanic and was a little bit confused
shittydwarf@piefed.social 5 months ago
Tragic?
Skysurfer@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Unfortunately it only had older still photos and videos, nothing from the last dive. Looks like they had the camera configured to send the data to the onboard computers and those were smashed into a soild mass, of which, no data was able to be recovered from.
nathan@piefed.alphapuggle.dev 5 months ago
Scientists were already unable to recover footage of their final moments on the SD card
db2@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There’s probably an expensive helium mechanical drive somewhere down there that suddenly found itself to be considerably smaller than it started out.
Nomecks@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Not surprising. The card was filled with… UNCOMPRESSIBLE DATA!
caveman8000@lemmy.world 5 months ago
🫵🫅