Maybe not that interesting for everyone here, but I found no better community for this.
I’m curious why you have a different title than the video?
Al Slop ls Destroying The Internet
kurzgesagt – AI Slop Is Killing Our Channel
Submitted 5 months ago by Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zfN9wnPvU0
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Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 5 months ago
They changed it.
roserose56@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
You can still edit and change the title!
Taldan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Either Kurzgesagt changed the title, or it’s A/B testing with multiple titles. When I watched the video yesterday, it had the same title as OP used
meekah@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Large YouTube channels usually try different titles and thumbnails during the first few hours after upload, so the title OP posted was probably accurate at the time of posting.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Got it, thank you.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 months ago
I lost interest in the channel due to their overly optimistic hopium, e.g. “We WILL solve climate change.”
frog_meister@lemmings.world 5 months ago
It was the “what-ifs” that did it for me.
Very boring stuff.
Teppichbrand@feddit.org 5 months ago
We will not solve it, it’s way too late. Still, every 0.01°C additional warming counts. People not born yet will suffer more from everything we don’t do now. So, rolling on your back and giving up is not helping at all. Going vegan is a great easy first step to make a difference. Blow up pipelines after that. :)
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
going vegan has not made any difference
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Have you heard of the experiment with swimming rats and how much longer they swam when given hope? We need hope to survive.
Though they don’t say we will solve it, but that we can solve it if we start now.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They don’t say that, though?
They say things like “with effort, we can solve climate change, or minimise its effects.”
Which is very different. And personally, I hate over the top doomerism where everyone says everything is fucked beyond repair all the time.
ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Taldan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Good news, this video is not very optimistic
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
There’s nothing helpful about giving up though is there.
And we could stop climate change, it’s entirely possible, presumably people don’t want to die so they will take action but they probably not going to start to act until climate change becomes more apparent, that’s depressing but that’s human nature. Humans have a long history of making radical changes at the last minute, e.g the cold war.
We like to go right up to the cliff edge but we tend not to take the final step.
After all even China is cleaning up its act and they’re the least likely to be cooperative so if even they’re doing something about it there’s hope.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 months ago
capitalism will solve climate change
Tangential, but thats what disgusted me about the Osaka world expo. The theme was sustainability so you had fossil fuel companies presenting wildly impractical “solutions” and art projects. The message was “things are under control, continue sleepwalking into oblivion”
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Have they considered that they’re just not a great channel?
frog_meister@lemmings.world 5 months ago
They put out a lot of really good stuff, but I guess because they’re popular and accessible it’s cool to hate on them.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Have you actually watched any of their videos? That’s obviously not true
tino@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Kurzgesagt is annoyingly techno-solutionist but now that they are a big target of AI slop (their artistic style being heavily copied), they complain. That’s good I guess.
Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Techno-solutionist lol. The power of labels eh?
jsomae@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
What is the problem with techno-solutionism? Is it just that under capitalism techno-solutionism often results in corruption?
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
If you actually watch the video that’s not what they’re talking about. They are talking about how it’s difficult to fact check information in a world of AI misinformation.
I always find it’s easier to know what a video is about if I actually watched the video. It’s just this little life hack I’ve come up with.
tino@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Watch the video? Duh. Thanks I watched it, and I know they don’t talk about how AI steals their art style (even though it’s really happening). I just pointed out the irony. The video also says they are usually enthusiastic about new tech but not this time.
I know this channel well enough to have seen countless videos praising fake tech like carbon capture and that’s why I have a problem with them. Am I allowed to have an opinion?
deaf_fish@midwest.social 5 months ago
I don’t think they are techno-solutionists but that sometimes is the vibe they give off.
I just think there’s some directions they won’t go thanks to the threat of capital.
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Honestly, it isn’t the AI so much as it is the suspension that rules that apply to us should also apply to AI.
TeddE@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Much the same as blockchain - it could have been exciting and fun, but it was immediately put to work to exploit people, and in the end that’s what the tools effectively were.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
I don’t think blockchain has any legitimate uses. All of the proposed uses for blockchain are all tech bro nonsense.
I think they were talking about having a decentralised property permits. As if that’s something that would be even remotely useful.
Auth@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I dont think its AI Slop thats “killing the channel” if that statement is even remotely true its due to more and more of their videos being slop sci low information videos. The target audience must be stoners who want to watch something that is visually appealing and feels educational
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 months ago
terrible animations, and its worst than other “education science channel” the least they could do is use actual footage or pictures of the things hes discussing.
PKscope@lemmy.world 5 months ago
For what it’s worth, I kinda agree. Maybe I’ve changed but I feel like their content over the last year or two is nowhere near as good as it was.
Maybe I’ve just had a change in taste, though.
Copycopycopy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They’re fine. Jesus christ.
Eh_I@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I have noticed that I don’t click on their videos as fast. Used to be that as soon as you see a video in the feed it was an instant click.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think the topics they make videos on these days feel more gimicy and click baity so I kinda avoid them
a_postmodern_hat@lemmy.world 5 months ago
100%. The recent videos all seem like they’re ragebait (‘alcohol is awesome’ springs to mind).
They could be good, but if they’re targeting them at people who like that tone then it’s not for me.
It’s a shame. I liked the earlier videos on ant colonies and strange matter and stars and stuff.
nuko147@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yeah, me too. This was instant click though.
SpicyLengthiness@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
And instant ad for their merch.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I want an ad / DNS blocklist for AI slop. I want to not even be able to go to HiSToRiAn AsLeEp In ThE WoOdS channels on my networks and devices
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You can have your Google search go before 2022. I do this sometimes
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Google still does its psychotic summarys though.
Then other day I was trying to find out how to get just one AD account not to sync through to Azure without disabling it. And the AI came up with this complicated instruction set that didn’t work and was totally made up from nowhere. Now what on earth was the point in doing that?
At one point it told me I had to triple click on something. Because that’s totally a thing.
tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 5 months ago
There you go.
MITM0@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Kurzgezagt is a slop channel too you know.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Tell me you live in an internet echo chamber without directly saying it…
MITM0@lemmy.world 5 months ago
If echo chamber means I can criticize your gurus, then so be it
SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You can’t really call it slop just because you disagree with their views and representations of things.
Their stuff is carefully researched and sourced, human crafted and open to critique. Whether they’re correct in their assessments or not is of course up for debate, but it’s good craftsmanship and they show their work.
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Eh, there’s a lot of blending of conjecture, opinion and fact all presented as truth, and their handling of mistakes could be better - they’ve openly said if they consider a mistake to be minor then they don’t issue a correction or update.
I personally think that attitude towards production pushes it towards slop, as it means you don’t actually care about what you’re talking about, just entertainment and getting views, so why does it matter if it was created by an AI or a human, but everyone has a different bar for this and is entitled to opinions on it.
YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I watched this with my son last night. Quite enjoyed it. I find the cadences of the narrator’s voice oddly soothing, although ironically it sounds very like an AI voice.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 months ago
probably using an AI voice themselves.
recked_wralph@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What do you think AI voices were trained off of?
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I’ve been watching that channel for years it’s very high quality.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 5 months ago
I mean there’s been some controversy surrounding a number of their videos. Some were under fire for poor research or demonstrating a singular, not widely-held view on certain topics. And I think for one video they were accused of plagiarism iirc. This was when it was still somewhat early days for the channel, haven’t followed them since so not sure what the state is now.
kalkulat@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This video is very probably also AI slop
Honytawk@feddit.nl 5 months ago
They have been doing this animation style since 2013.
Why do you think they use AI?
I think your AI senses are broken, you see AI everywhere where there is not. You’re like the extreme opposite of AI Tech Bro. Like you have paranoid AI-phobia or something.
chunes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ironic coming from one of the preeminent traditional slop channels
Kissaki@feddit.org 5 months ago
I feel like the title doesn’t match the content.
The video gives an elaborate description on their evaluation of “AI” and it’s influence on the Internet at large. And then they conclude with “we’ll continue like before” directly contradicting the title.
Feels disingenuous. And ironic after they talked about their extensive investments into fact checking.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 5 months ago
Their quality going down is probably what’s killing their channel. Every video is a merch ad, and the occasional shilling for the fossil fuel industry probably doesn’t help any.
These things are to be expected when you get bought by private equity, but let’s not be dishonest and say it’s all AI slop that’s killing them.
melfie@lemy.lol 5 months ago
Some of their videos are pretty good, but taking funding from billionaires is never a good look.
Davy_Jones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
This whole video felt like advertisement to me.
M137@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s definitely not only that.
I and, from what I’ve seen discussed here and elsewhere online, many other people have stopped watching the channel because of many valid reasons completely unrelated to AI. I haven’t watched a single one of their videos for years, something changed in their content and I just lost interest. Then there have been several controversial events throughout the years, both objective bad stuff and subjective things that made many loose interest and faith in their integrity. They definitely became one of the many channels that lost it’s way because of how big it got. The animations became too “perfect” in a weird way, they lost their personality and they also got scared of having real opinions so they started doing this “all sides” shit and that’s when I tapped out. I’ve tried to watch new videos from them about once every 6 months or so, but I can’t even make it past a minute without completely loosing interest.simplejack@lemmy.world 5 months ago
simplejack@lemmy.world 5 months ago
!video@lemmy.world is a good one for stuff like this. That community loves their work.
call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I mean, you’re petroleum industry apologists, so for a change I’m not that broken up.
frog_meister@lemmings.world 5 months ago
I don’t really have an issue with AI slop. It’s the same level of quality as most influencer-shit out there.
I just ignore it.