Watch first, then wipe: Some China’s restrooms put toilet paper behind paywall

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• friend_of_satan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is a whole new level of enshitification.

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  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    lemmy feature request please - lemmy gold.

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Awards made Reddit so much shittier, that would be a nightmare.

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    • RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Alternatively there is !bestoflemmy@lemmy.world

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      🥇

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  • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, I’d be carrying some kind of tool to rip that fucker open.

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• kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Boring dystopia

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• ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Or scrape my ass across their damned dispenser.

  Fuck that noise.

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• kikutwo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How is this any different than Germany where oftentimes the entrance itself is behind a paywall?

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  • es_eskaliert@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dropping in a coin vs what seems to be downloading some sort of an app or at least opening some shady websites on your fucking phone over your fucking mobile data is where I see it. Even if you used the payment option, you’d have to disclose your online payment information to the provider. Privacy nightmare.

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    • es_eskaliert@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or simply imagine you just took your most violent shit of the century and then have an ad for hot mexican food or something.

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  • ptmb@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The entrance being behind a paywall is bad, but if you’re not aware of it before using the toilet this holds you hostage unable to get clean until you pay up, with either your money or your attention. I’d say this is a more evil design, even though both are evil.

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    • kurwa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ain’t nobody stopping you from having dirty cheeks

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    • 0ops@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You took the words right out of my mouth

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  • Fermion@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Germany doesn’t get everything right.

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    • guy_threepwood@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Berlin Hbf. They have a single set of toilets about half the size of what you’d get in a shopping center which cost €2 with turnstyle access for a station the size of a cathedral with something like 20 platforms. 🙈

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    • kikutwo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And Austria

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  • NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In Germany you’re paying to access the bathroom, not the “privilege” of wiping your ass

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  • circledot@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It sets precedent. You could extend that on anything. Doesn’t make the German pay or piss yourself thing any better though.

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  • Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Then I’m shitting on the door.

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  • Sirence@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you’re not fat you can just go through the side of the turn thingy sanifair uses for free

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hop it like the NYC subway.

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They tried pay toilets in the states but people vandalized the shit out of them until they were gone. These days it can be hard to find public restrooms in places though.

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• hddsx@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bring your own toilet paper?

  Also China public bathrooms smell like absolute crap I have no idea why. I had to pee in China and walked into a public bathroom on the side of the road. I almost puked

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  • perishthethought@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Many are just ‘squatty potties’ - is a hole in the floor and a tank below.

    And yah, tourists are told to bring TP already since some bathrooms don’t have any.

    😶

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    • hddsx@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What do you mean by a tank below? For flushing or…?

      All the squatty potties I encountered in Asia were plumbed the way a toilet in the US would be plumbed so the poop gets flushed elsewhere.

      I hope the ones in China weren’t basically permanent porta potties….

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    • WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People kept stealing the toilet paper rolls. Poor elderly are notorious for this from what I heard

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  • CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, most people in china already bring their own. The only time I’ve ever seen it offered for free was in a crazy high end shopping mall.

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• viking@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As someone who lived in China for 7 years, the alternative is that the next best person who enters the bathroom takes all available paper home.

  In my entire time there, I can count the number of times where paper was available on a single hand, with spare fingers.

  Naturally, everybody carries a box of tissues at all times.

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  • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve been told that China is so prosperous, why would there be no toilet paper‽

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    • viking@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      China is prosperous, don’t let anybody fool you. But people are deeply, inherently selfish and love money more than everything (yay, communism!), so if they can save 30 cents by taking a roll of toilet paper home, they will.

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• morphballganon@mtgzone.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If their goal is to convince people to not wipe at all, this method will have some non-zero percent of success.

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’ve never been to China, have you?

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    • morphballganon@mtgzone.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Correct, but I think what I said would be true in any country.

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• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lmao if someone tried this shit in the US all the dispensors would be kicked off the walls by the end of the day.

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  • Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Either that, or I will find something else to wipe my ass on. It’s lose-lose for everybody really.

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    China is a while other world than western countries. Having access to toilet paper, even paid access, in a public restroom is not common.

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• ryan_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is because of people stealing toilet paper out of public restrooms

  vice.com/…/chinas-fighting-toilet-paper-thieves-w…

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  • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yo first line of that says that many public restrooms don’t have have TP at all and you need to bring your own. What the fuck even is that system to begin with?!

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    • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s called a system that went fucking hard modernizing leaving large portions of people behind. All these problems are solved with a bidet imo.

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• Alloi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  how “capitalistic” of the “communists” lol.

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  • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He who does not work, shall not wipe.

    • Владимир Ленин

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  • surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How do you figure? In what way does this imply concentration of wealth?

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Advertisement predominantly exists to encourage consumption, this is primarily a means to increase wealth

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    • Alloi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      i thought it was pretty self explanitory but having to pay to wipe your ass in a public washroom, or watch ads to fuel more consumption seems pretty capitalistic in practice.

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• mikedd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is depressing :(

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  • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Watch the black mirror episode Fifteen Million Merits. Your walls are ads unless you pay, can’t even close your eyes.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_Million_Merits

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    • mikedd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh I definitely know that episode! It’s one of the scariest ones for me. And here we are not that may years after it aired with this already starting to become a reality. :(

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• Quilotoa@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Many countries have pay per use public restrooms. Sometimes there’s someone sitting outside handing out toilet paper after you pay. Sometimes it a coin insert turnstile. Us oldsters call them Johnny Cash.

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• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oh ok flushes baby wipes.

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• oyo@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Waiting for .ml to tell me how this was all part of Mao’s plan.

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• Fedditor385@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Just shit right under it on the floor to show your disagreement.

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  • Pro@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ⓘDear Citizen, you just lost 1000 points, for shitting on the floor.

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    • asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Surveillance cameras in the bathroom? Not surprised

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• Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Basically almost a literal shitpost.

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• y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Most public Chinese bathrooms I visited didn’t have toilet paper at all, or there was a communal roll outside the “stall”, if there was a stall. It is expected that you bring your own.

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• MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t know what all the hate is about. This is not in every restroom there, but even so, we don’t really have a lot of “public” restrooms in the US. All over Europe there are 1 euro turnstiles or other barriers to go to the restroom in the first place. Ideally we live in luxury gay space communism, but in the interim at least having access to a restroom is nice. I’d love it to be free everywhere, but it’s not always free in Europe either and at least in this example you can access it for free if you bring your own or are able to watch an ad, and in the US you may not realistically have access to one at all. This also ensures that the people accessing the service are the ones paying for it, so it’s not like someone in a small town with less access to government subsidized resources are being taxed so that these people can have free TP. I don’t love the idea, but it’s not novel or any more dystopian than what we have everywhere else.

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  • witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Multiple replies in here from people saying they’d wipe their poo on the bathroom fixtures. I don’t think reasoning is going to work.

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    • MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yea, I didn’t address that directly but what an insane take. That’s like coming to the US and being upset that tax isn’t integrated into the listed price so refusing to pay it and just stealing, but also worse and grosser because now someone has to clean that up or use it after you. Even if it was the norm over there, which to my understanding it is not, that’s then what you should follow as a guest in a foreign country. I can only imagine/hope these people are not Americans with passports. We get a bad enough reputation as is.

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• Pro@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Think about the cheap mother-fuckers who are going to leave with their shit in their pants because they don’t want to watch an ad or pay 7 cents

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  • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’d argue that the people who decided to monetize toilet paper are cheaper

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    • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Shittier too

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• pr06lefs@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bring a crowbar. Free the TP!

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• credo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hey, could you watch some ads for me? Mines out.

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• blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’d just use a sock and slap it on the screen

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• bizzle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We live in a cyberpunk dystopia right now

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• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  China still has restrooms where you literally squat then piss and shit onto the floor, with hoses at the exit for you to wash your feet because of the nature of what you’re doing. There’s no toilet paper in them at all, you have to make sure you take your own in there along with a way too dispose of it.

  Not knowing this when we first visited China, the women in our group were horrified and unprepared.

  What this topic is about is an improvement on that.

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• random_character_a@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m surprised it doesn’t need a some dubious app.

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• WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is why I don’t eat in Restoraunts (besides the fact that I’m always broke).

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• homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  🚽🧻🔫💥

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• Geodad@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I do NOT touch my phone after I start wiping.

  I guess there would just be shit smeared on the walls of that stall.

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• anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  …People are really freaking out about 7 cents?

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re kidding, right? Just make the restroom paid…50¢ or whatever the equivalent reasonable price is there. Cash or tap. Not make it impossible to wipe your ass if you have a dead battery, bad connection, no phone, whatever.

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  • Gerudo@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Using the bathroom should never be charged for. Ever.

    If you have a GI disease and you don’t happen to have 7 cents, or the network is down, or the power is out, you accidentally lost your phone, or a million other things that could go wrong with this, the alternatives are dehumanizing.

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  • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And this type of mentality is why people did nothing when Sony and Nintendo decided to start charging for multiplayer. And why companies keep doing shrinkflation and getting away with it for other products.

    They never seem to see an issue with being bent over, and keep defending it and finding reasons to justify being charged for everything.

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