Alloi
@Alloi@lemmy.world
- Comment on Landmark trial accusing tech giants of harming children with addictive social media begins 1 week ago:
kind of missing the forest for the trees here. the issue is in order to make that change and hold these platforms accountable, through changes to section 230, you would then open the door to all platforms being held accountable, and create a new loop hole for more government control of all platforms. this would cause intense censorship and algorithmic control of content, and the means in which it is shared, spread, or created.
the internet is inherently addictive, always has been, always will be. its the greatest technology mankind has ever developed, it connects us all to each other, and the collective library of human knowledge. there is no world where a human brain, adult, or child, does not engage with that level of connectivity without some level of addiction.
ive been watching this for a while now, and the support, timing, and language around it is being engaged by both sides of the political spectrum. which in this particular time period, is extremelly worrisome.
attacking “addictive features” (which i am not saying their isnt room for improvement) is a foot in the door for further amendments. most people just “think of the chillren” when they see this, and its understandable, we love our kids, so we should as parents limit screen time, or not make it an option at all, kids cant buy their own phines, computers, or pay for wifi, and it takes a few minutes to put parental controls on all your kids devices. besides that, most people are not educated in the subject of internet policy over the last 30 years, or why section 230 is so important. it is quite literally the reason you and i can have this exchange without the government filtering what can and cannot be exchanged.
the fact of the matter is right in the paragraph you quoted
This argument, if successful, could sidestep the companies’ First Amendment shield and Section 230
its not just about the companies, its about section 230, and as a biproduct digital ID requirements by large platforms. which is something needed for a larger agenda that goes beyond the united states government, by the ruling elites of the world. but thats a rabbit hole ill allow you to fall in yourself. the united states just so happens to be the center of digital infrastructure and platforms shared by every country in the planet.
discord, as an example, will soon require users to upload a copy of their ID or a facial scan to use their platform.
“to protect the children”
then every major platform will. for “liability reasons” and to “protect the children”
then the internet as a whole will require it.
“to protect the children”
then you wont be able to do a god damn thing without big brother logging and arresting people left and right for whatever digital crimes the powers that be decide are crimes that week. basically, thought crime.
heres a good write up about section 230. the above mentioned article already discusses some of the pushes for digital ID already. in various forms. some more invasive than others.
internetsociety.org/…/30-years-of-section-230-why…
heres a decent video about the history of the internet, section 230, and implications of this lawsuit and the other actions around section 230. its a bit long, but worth it. if you want a laymans understanding.
and below, here is a summary of section 230 from wikipedia.
Summary In the United States, Section 230 is a section of the Communications Act of 1934 that was enacted as part of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, which is Title V of the Telecommunications Act of 1996, and generally provides immunity for online computer services with respect to third-party content generated by their users. At its core, Section 230©(1) provides immunity from liability for providers and users of an “interactive computer service” who publish information provided by third-party users:
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.
Section 230©(2) further provides “Good Samaritan” protection from civil liability for operators of interactive computer services in the voluntary good faith removal or moderation of third-party material the operator “considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected.”
Section 230 was developed in response to a pair of lawsuits against online discussion platforms in the early 1990s that resulted in different interpretations of whether the service providers should be treated as publishers, Stratton Oakmont, Inc. v. Prodigy Services Co., or alternatively, as distributors of content created by their users, Cubby, Inc. v. CompuServe Inc. The section’s authors, Representatives Christopher Cox and Ron Wyden, believed interactive computer services should be treated as distributors, not liable for the content they distributed, as a means to protect the growing Internet at the time.
Section 230 was enacted as section 509 of the Communications Decency Act (CDA) of 1996 (a common name for Title V of the Telecommunications Act of 1996). After passage of the Telecommunications Act, the CDA was challenged in courts and was ruled by the Supreme Court in Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union (1997) to be unconstitutional, though Section 230 was determined to be severable from the rest of the legislation and remained in place. Since then, several legal challenges have validated the constitutionality of Section 230.
Section 230 protections are not limitless and require providers to remove material that violates federal criminal law, intellectual property law, or human trafficking law. In 2018, Section 230 was amended by the Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA-SESTA) to require the removal of material violating federal and state sex trafficking laws. In the following years, protections from Section 230 have come under more scrutiny on issues related to hate speech and ideological biases in relation to the power that technology companies can hold on political discussions and became a major issue during the 2020 United States presidential election, especially with regard to alleged censorship of more conservative viewpoints on social media.
Passed when Internet use was just starting to expand in both breadth of services and range of consumers in the United States, Section 230 has frequently been referred to as a key law, which allowed the Internet to develop.
there.
i did my part.
now i must rest.
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“yea, ive been craving burgers too…FUR burgers”
- Comment on [deleted] 1 week ago:
not me, i just assume you think im a special lil guy
- Comment on Landmark trial accusing tech giants of harming children with addictive social media begins 1 week ago:
removing or changing section 230 would also allow lemmy instances to be sued or taken down as well, for the content posted by users. it would increase government surveillance and basically allow the american government to dictate content across the entire internet. no more freedom of speech, whistleblowers, organization of protests, etc.
this all sounds well and good “for the sake of the chillren” but its a trojan horse for government censorship.
the only people who would be able to afford the bill for what happens after this would be american social media companies. anything “independant” or emerging like the fediverse would get bot swarmed with “illegal content” and then immediately sued into oblivion and outright removed.
this ensures complete loyalty of the digital space to the whims of the american government.
it would also allow them to remove things like wikipedia, the way back machine, the internet archive, and sites holding or spreading things around like the epstein files or at least sites holding peoples opinions of them.
- Comment on BASED? 1 week ago:
theres always a choice, it just depends on how much you are willing to sacrifice for it.
- Comment on BASED? 1 week ago:
i… present you with…a choice…comrade…
- Comment on Hrmmm 2 weeks ago:
but how will i post about how revolutionary i am???
- Comment on Steam is giving some players refunds for Ashes of Creation, which had the biggest MMO Kickstarter campaign ever, after leadership resignation and mass layoffs 2 weeks ago:
true.
- Comment on Steam Quietly Withdraws Under Fire MMO Ashes of Creation From Sale As Fans Wonder Who's Left to Maintain the Servers 2 weeks ago:
ive hated the use of “quiet” in clickbait articles headlines for a while now. i assume anything writing it is AI slop at this point. its just too common to ignore.
“this company just quietly did this thing”
" you wont believe what this CEO has been quietly investing in since COVID"
“this politician just said the quiet part out loud!”
“these are the top ten projects that countries have been quietly building for 20 years, you wont believe #9!”
- Comment on CEO of Palantir Says AI Means You’ll Have to Work With Your Hands Like a Peasant 2 weeks ago:
id also tell my competition to stop trying and get a real job if i felt like they were still a threat, you know, if i was an insecure, narcissistic, sociopath, with a visible coke addiction, and access to large swathes of investor capital, in an industry that fundamentally cannot turn a profit unless its through circular investment.
- Comment on Elon Musk Is Rolling xAI Into SpaceX—Creating the World’s Most Valuable Private Company 2 weeks ago:
great place to store the expensive child porn generators. far away in space, where a molotov can never reach.
i fucking hate this timeline.
- Comment on How do you fight doomerism/pessimism in these trying times? 3 weeks ago:
in these…trying times?
- Comment on Games Workshop ban staff from using genAI in Warhammer, saying they're not “excited about it yet” 5 weeks ago:
big W for games workshop
but the “yet” has me a bit worried. we need certain companies to become permanent bastions of human creativity.
animation studios, film studios, tabeltop game studios, video game studios. etc.
the ones that stay human will be remembered forever. everything else is filler and slurry. theres an absence of love in it, a love that transcends the medium in a way thats hard to describe. and i hope it stays hard to describe, so that AI cant take that away too.
its like an invisible watermark that only humans can feel.
- Comment on RAM may be abominably expensive, but hey, at least SSD prices are also exploding 5 weeks ago:
the day after the final update my cpu almost fried itself. instantly switched to bazzite. record low temps. fuck windows
- Comment on LG Electronics unveils 2026 Gram Laptop line with aerospace composite - up to 50% lighter than macbooks 1 month ago:
im building a cyber deck, fuck this shit.
- Comment on what was the worst enemy of feudalism? 1 month ago:
you misunderstood, i was implying capitalism perfected slavery.
- Comment on what was the worst enemy of feudalism? 2 months ago:
feudalisms biggest enemy was capitalism. it perfected slavery and organized everyone willingly in exchange for stable trade of goods and services that they otherwise would not have access to. it lead to the industrial revolution, and its fast growth quickly convinced formerly feudal countries (like japan, as an example) to modernize their technological standards, as welll as their economies, so they could participate in that same system. out of fear of being left behind.
obviously capitalism has its flaws, its a horrible system with an expiration date that seems to be only a few short decades away now. and ironically its likely going to be surpassed by techno feudalism, or if a miracle happens, some form of democratic socialism.
- Comment on xAI used employee biometric data to train Elon Musk’s AI girlfriend 3 months ago:
he had a penis enlargement surgery that had the unfortunate side effect of permanent erectile disfunction.
the ketamine makes him virtually incontinent, he cant piss like a normal person, hes got a swollen inflamed bladder so he has to piss often and sometimes without a “controlled release”
so in the absence of a working dick, and bladder, hes few pleasures are drug abuse, and getting pegged. as confirmed by his ex wife, grimes.
- Comment on Las Vegas deploys world’s first Tesla Cybertruck police fleet 3 months ago:
just ride out into the desert, these things get hung up on napkins for fuck sake.
- Comment on Corcoran Group CEO says Gen Z’s housing market struggles mirror what boomers faced 30 years ago: ‘Stop buying Starbucks coffee,’ she advises 3 months ago:
im sure her name was just added to a few peoples lists for that statement.
- Comment on Japanese Government Calls on Sora 2 Maker OpenAI to Refrain From Copyright Infringement, Says Characters From Manga and Anime Are 'Irreplaceable Treasures' That Japan Boasts to the World 4 months ago:
“this is strictly about profits from their anime industry.”
ya dont say?
- Comment on Trump says US 'wants to help China, not hurt it' 4 months ago:
“i love you baby, i didnt want to hit you, but you make me so crazy sometimes, i just dont know express my feelings. and you get me so worked up, so i just lash out. i promise i wont do it again, as long as you promise not get on my case and do as i ask from now on… if you can do that for me, ill take you out to buy you some new mascara for your eye, the expensive stuff, too… just know that i did this out of frustration because of how much i love you, and how badly it hurts me to hear you say you dont trust me…”
- Comment on Watch first, then wipe: Some China’s restrooms put toilet paper behind paywall 4 months ago:
i thought it was pretty self explanitory but having to pay to wipe your ass in a public washroom, or watch ads to fuel more consumption seems pretty capitalistic in practice.
- Comment on Watch first, then wipe: Some China’s restrooms put toilet paper behind paywall 4 months ago:
how “capitalistic” of the “communists” lol.
- Comment on The way I cackled when I read this... 5 months ago:
is this sub full of normal old school conservatoces or is still maga based?
- Comment on [deleted] 5 months ago:
fuck outta here, nazi.
- Comment on You need good looks to get approval in the shooter business 5 months ago:
no… just, hugs and sweet little kisses on the forehead. thats all
- Comment on You need good looks to get approval in the shooter business 5 months ago:
to kiss babies. "obviously*
- Comment on Researchers embed digital 'fingerprints' into 3D printed parts — tech may make future ghost guns more traceable 5 months ago:
you know how easy it is to circumvent this?
relatively easy, its relatively easy. now you know.
- Comment on You need good looks to get approval in the shooter business 5 months ago:
terminally ill chads, RISE!