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Transgender, nonbinary and disabled people more likely to view AI negatively, study shows

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Submitted ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://theconversation.com/transgender-nonbinary-and-disabled-people-more-likely-to-view-ai-negatively-study-shows-260397

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  • Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well that explains a lot about Lemmy.

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  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sounds like confirmarion bias.
    I’d like to know the industry sector they are working in.
    I’d say a high amount of them work in Tech and IT.

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  • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s because they’re all on lemmy

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  • vane@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe only those are worthy to survive this technology addiction disease.

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  • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ragebait

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Opposed people, or today who know what it’s like to be oppressed, are more likely to recognize oppression.

    AI is going to fuck us all at this rate. It’s already begun. People are losing their jobs.

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    • mycelium_underground@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Losing jobs is just the tip of the iceberg, individualized, friendly mass manipulation is where the shit hits the fan in a whole new way

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  • JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Man between this and the “AI vegan” bullshit article, they really want to get ahead on crushing any thought that AI is bad. At least by easily manipulated groups.

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Like the kind of person that thinks vegans and trans = easily manipulated, because they’ll never consider the point might be manipulating their own biases against those groups.

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      • JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes exactly. They are manipulating the “unwashed masses” that think anything different from them is bad. Bro Jogan die hards etc.

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      • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think it’s also in an effort to other those who are against AI as it’s being done rn

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  • thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What kinda bullshit narrative is this?

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    • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      One that divides people in lower tax brackets

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  • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Knowledge based fields were historically a “safe space” for queer and disabled people. If you are just super fucking smart and could be a wizard in a programming language, or were a genius physicist, you could get to the point where you were too valuable to fire for being trans or disabled. I may be trans and an unperson in the place I live, but I can do calculus, and there’s no way they can take that away from me.

    There’s an attack on knowledge itself going on right now. A desire by the rich to control information. They want to force us into an unreality where skill and knowledge are meaningless. This hurts people who are socially marginalized, because it takes away one of our few paths for economic survival.

    It goes with the attacks on DEI. What they want is a tool that can replace the need for talent, so that they can select who gets to have jobs. They want all jobs to be Graeber’s “bullshit jobs” so that skill is meaningless and they can allot them out to the people they think “deserve” them.

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  • Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Actual computer scientists should also be included with those groups.

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    • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      LGBTC

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  • archchan@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In the words of Miyazaki:

    Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is whatsoever. I am utterly disgusted. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it. I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself.

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    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s mathematically an insult to life itself. It changes evolution in human societies to reduce dissent and diversity of thought. And evolution is important in the sense that to stay on one place you have to run very fast.

      So it’s sort of a tool for regress. Honestly - similar to the Web itself. It was intended as a hypertext system for scientists. For social interaction there were e-mail and e-news.

      I’m thinking - I thought always that Sun is a very cool company, but at the same time they are also the ones who’ve popularized this messy understanding of the future in which, with some commercial adjustments by today’s big tech, we still live. And that understanding was highly centralist, sort of a digital empire.

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  • deathbird@mander.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Some groups like bullshit less than others” says survey. “This is why bullshit is bad.” says author. “Here’s my post-hoc reasoning for why I got these results.”

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  • NoodlePoint@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because some are artisans and see that their work is being pillaged for AI “training”.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    AI is the new crypto by the ceos and c-suites, sorry but theres no market for it for a regular customer base, and they admitted its costing them alot more money using AI than actually saving or even profitting from it.

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    • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It has a market for a regular customer base. But they try to shove it down everything just to see what sticks, and most of those things are useless as best or actively making the product worse.

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    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      who fall for AI /crypto are mostly conservatives

      Let’s separate these two things.

      The latter does work well enough to be used by a kind of people. That it’s not the new revolution is fine. I’ve recently looked through NOSTR NIPs and they make a huge thing out of functionality for sending “zaps”, and you know why? Because payments mean possibility to send universal value for some subjective value. It’s a difference in efficiency between barter and money almost.

      I can’t be proud of it, because, despite sharing libertarian ideas, I was highly skeptical of such systems. One can say I was gaslighted into considering it all having become a scam.

      So - NOSTR looks like something that will work. Its standards involve a lot of different functionality, so clients usually decide to implement only part of it - some like Reddit\Lemmy communities, some like Telegram group chats, and so on (it kinda seems to even out with time, Amethyst has recently got group chats, for example). And thus it often seems devoid of life for new people. But it’s already big enough for the search results to not seem particularly right-wing skewed.

      So - I’ve noticed that people very often send these “zaps”. It’s normal to tip stuff in NOSTR. Already.

      It’s a long-term advantage, but that system in its architecture is far better than Fediverse, that’s what I mean.

      And honestly it’s not unheard of for left-wing technical projects to use good tooling and competent people and appear impressive, but long-term lose to right-wing technical projects which use some tooling and some people and don’t appear too cool, but are more applicable socially.

      I really feel like trying to write a NOSTR client, LOL.

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  • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Disabled, vehemently anti-AI enby here. The only thing I’m good at professionally is being a great big brain, so taking knowledge work away from me makes me angry.

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  • Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    outliers badly served by advanced averaging machine

    Who knew

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  • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m none of those however I believe they are right to view it negatively. The rest of us should be just a wary.

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why the FUCK do we need to start splintering this with identity politics? Seriously name one good reason why this isn’t a distraction from the class war. Just one.

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  • augustus@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes, generative AI is a normative neurotypical triangulation machine. Why would this be thought of favorably?

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    • zlatko@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think it’s because the average person doesn’t understand about five words in your first sentence. They can understand marketing bull that they’re fed, though.

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  • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think a lot of women feel this way too

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  • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ~*~~intersectionality~~*~

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  • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oppressed people don’t like the walled garden information tools made and profited from by the people using them as a scapegoat distraction for their fleecing of society?

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  • svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Roughly 50% of transgender and/or non-binary people are software developers and roughly 50% are furry artists, so it makes sense we would be more wary of AI.

    I use arch, btw.

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    • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wait, if I’m not a software developer, then I must be a furry artist 🫣 The things I learn about myself on the internet… xd

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      • svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well, some are both software developers and furry artists, which I guess frees you up to be some other, hidden, third thing. Which I’m going to guess is either bass guitar player or train driver?

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    • Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Trans nonby software dev who dated a furry artist, my disdain for AI knows no limits.

      I use Nobara, btw. (Is Arch good I’ve never looked into it)

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      • Rodancoci@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It can be a tiny bit involved to install but if you know your way around Linux already it’s perfectly doable. The arch wiki is a great reference for MANY things and it has a dedicated page with installation instructions.

        I like that it’s lightweight because it comes with the bare minimum for a working Linux install and everything on top of that must be explicitly installed by you. I also love pacman (the package manager). It’s never borked anything for me and I’ve yet to be dropped into a dependency hell in 6+ years of using it.

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    • seralth@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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      • Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sysadmin is an adequate pastiche, you don’t need to specify the exact queer animal person they are.

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  • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    These findings are consistent with a growing body of research showing how AI systems often misclassify, perpetuate discrimination toward or otherwise harmtrans and disabled people. In particular, identities that defy categorization clash with AI systems that are inherently designed to reduce complexity into rigid categories. In doing so, AI systems simplify identities and can replicate and reinforce bias and discrimination – and people notice.

    Makes sense.

    These systems exist to sand off the rough edges of real life artifacts and interactions, and these are people who’ve spent their whole lives being treated like an imperfection that just needs to be smoothed out.

    Why would you not be wary?

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  • Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Smart bunch it would seem.

    Fuck AI

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  • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ITT: “this study doesn’t say anything interesting about ME, it must be bullshit!!”

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  • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    it's because we actually listened to the plot of the matrix

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  • LordWiggle@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Same way the other way around. Remember when grok went full mechahitler?

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  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hi. Haven’t read the article. Straight middle aged white guy here. I too also view AI negatively.

    If trans, nonbinary, or disabled people view AI negatively, it’s not because they’re trans, nonbinary or disabled. It’s because AI is terrible, and threatens (and already is proving to) make all of our lives terrible for the sole sake of giving billionaires a few extra pennies.

    Though I will say, if trans, nonbinary and disabled people have any extra issues with AI making their life specifically worse, that’s not caused by AI itself. It’s caused by the wealthy CHOOSING to use AI to make their lives worse.

    This doesn’t need to happen. None of this needs to happen. Google doesn’t need entire campuses dedicated to AI with special power requirements. This is all bullshit.

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    • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The survey discovered that people in those groups are more likely to view AI negatively than those in other groups.

      If trans, nonbinary, or disabled people view AI negatively, it’s not because they’re trans, nonbinary or disabled. It’s because AI is terrible, and threatens (and already is proving to) make all of our lives terrible for the sole sake of giving billionaires a few extra pennies.

      People in these groups may have different or additional reasons for viewing AI negatively that are not common to other groups. It’s a question for further research why they tend to view AI more negatively. It might very well be because they’re trans, nonbinary or disabled - perhaps for conscious reasons or perhaps because of other factors. The survey shows that there are more questions to be asked and that it would be worth paying attention to the experiences of these groups.

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  • justlemmyin@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    TIL, I am transgender, non binary and disabled. That is why I hate AI slop.

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    • AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You are committing a logical fallacy called “affirming the consequent”.

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      • thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Or he’s not pushing a narrative that those individuals are ludfites afraid of tech and are dumber than others?

        What’s next defining races by the lumps on thier heads?

        Mengala would be proud

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