Submitted 8 months ago by QuantumSpecter@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
Does Spotify really have “fans”? Or maybe just users? And what user spends time “threatening” piracy, if they know how to do it?
Also, I realized only last month that my younger brother doesn’t know how to use torrents. Shame on me for having left home too early!
…funnily enough, it may actually be better for musicians if people left spotify, considering the absolute pennies they pay per stream.
You aren’t wrong, it is the government’s ham fisted and poorly thought out legislation… I fact the last government’s that this one inexplicably pushed on with despite it not being anything like a priority for the electorate. I’m frankly shocked at how many unforced errors this government is making given how “not being as rubbish as the last lot” was not a high bar to clear.
Welcome back 🏴☠️🦜
You should already be doing that anyways with the phantom artists scandal, thousands of fake artists made with AI so Spotify doesn’t have to pay real people.
Should never have left it behind to be honest.
People sometimes don’t believe me when I tell them I’ve literally never used Spotify.
Is this just a thing for free users? I’ve not seen anything on there.
I often see here and reddit people justifying piracy with various reason.
I do it because I can, because i’m a tight cunt and I like free stuff.
as an independent artist I just wanna add: the best thing you can do to support artists and bands is to buy directly / on bandcamp. spotify pays shit to artists, you need millions of listeners to get any meaningful amount of cash
of course that isn’t a sustainable option if you listen to a lot of different music. so piracy is an option that I wouldn’t mind. hell, if you like my stuff and just write to me I’ll send you mp3s for free
Don’t forget to tell them to go to the shows!!
physically hand them actual cash with your flesh and blood hands!
Most of the time you have to pre book BA some website that takes its 30% cut.
Man, I wish I could hand them cold, hard cash. Instead, I gotta pay Ticketmaster to skim off the top first before giving the artist and their team peanuts.
music to my ears
not in a lossless format?
This exactly. Pirating is still preventing the artists from getting paid for their work. Choose to buy albums from companies like Bandcamp over just simply stealing their work.
Preferably on Bandcamp Friday
I already moved to piracy for music because these days Spotify isn’t even giving the normal shuffle option for free users
Yeah I know it’s cheap but I’m a student so…
Latest Spotify crackdowns on revanced apps and a very recent GrayJay plugin issues made me look into Spotify cracking scene. I found an app that works. But for how long?
After they killed spotube, people are going back to the old hacked Spotify, but since it’s not open it’s way more risky, and maybe that’s the intent, to make people scared of using them.
Hmm could you tell me where, so that I can avoid that place?
just buy releases from bands on Bandcamp
I have never in my entire life paid for a streaming service. I didn’t stop pirating when Netflix was the only game in town and cost $8 / month. I didn’t pay for streaming even when every normie started getting internet access and “everyone was doing it”. Even during the high point of my life where I was more than gainfully employed and accumulating savings I STILL never had a streaming service. Unless you count the self hosting spotify clone I made but I’m not paying money or supporting people with different ideological beliefs than me in order to use it so that really doesn’t count.
Already did this ages ago. Been building a collection for decades now. I’m pushing about 10k albums on the NAS. Haven’t had spotify since like 2018
Same but I only keep what I really like and listen to, I put playlists on a thumb drive, almost like a cassette player, it just works.
You have more albums than I have individual files, I don’t even know where I would find so much to download.
I usually just get it from YouTube currently
Soulseek
www.live365.com/listen
No account or subscription required.
Hundreds of internet radio stations. Some are ad-supported, some are ad-free but you can contribute to the station’s patreon.
Back in the day, Grooveshark was the king before all these subscription guys showed up.
I switched to Qobuz about two weeks ago. I’ve been really impressed.
Is this FOSS? Is it on GitHub or can I get it from another app store like F-Droid?
Nope, it’s a Spotify alternative made in France which emphasize on paying a fair share to the artists and providing a great music quality.
No, it’s 13€/month (first month free)
Who could have guessed this very obvious a most expected outcome?! Not Spotify, I guess.
Don’t threaten, just do it!
I don’t get why people are so stubborn to move away from corporate products.
I was dragging my feet because I really liked the algorithmic features. As much as I hate “AI” being jammed into everything these days, I really liked their DJ feature, and the “crate a playlist from a prompt” was a lot of fun to play with!
My favorite generated playlist was “Determined music for poopwalking home from Taco Bell”
That being said, they’ve been corrupting their music exploration tools with corporate interest for a while, so it’s been becoming less desirable as a result
I hate Spotify and would like to stop paying them even 1/5th of a family subscription. But I have researched alternatives and haven’t found one that meet my need to manage offline files, playlists, and the current playback session across many (and I mean many) devices.
people like having their stuff.
When you lease access to information, you literally don’t gave any stuff.
Well… with streaming services people don’t actually have anything, because nothing in there are theirs to own ;)
Personally, the open source community’s aversion to (privately and openly implemented) algorithms is what’s holding me back. Say what you will about them, but I’ve found many great songs thanks to Spotify’s algo.
I’ve found many juat streaming themed internet radio on Radiodroid.
It’s not so much an aversion to algorithms as it is a version to corporate controlled algorithms (which are often targeting highly questionable metrics).
If you’re just looking for an engine that recommends you music based off your likes, the FOSS community could utilize the Music Genomoe Project to build a tool too do that based one a folder or Playlist of music provided to it. I would be surprised if there already wasn’t a FOSS tool to do that.
Soulseeks recommendation algorithm is top notch, almost organic. You click the ‘browse users files’ button.
I don’t use any proprietary apps. Only FOSS apps on my phone.
Hope you’re enjoying the freedom, fellow FOSSer :)
Ngl, right now I’m endevouring to acquire more music in digital file format rather than streaming right now. Spotify is great, especially when your looking for individual songs that you’ll only listen to a handful of times, and for discovering music, but once you lose access to it you’re pretty fucked.
I use Tidal, which pays artists even better
At this point even the music discovery is being enshitified with AI bands taking up more and more space as low-cost filler.
The last 10 years of the internet are committing seppuku in front of us. Gird your musical loins, friend. We’ll need jams in MP3 format in the dystopian hellscape that’s rushing to meet us.
It’s a load of bullshit, for a start the ISP has my details and should be able to attest my connection is rented by someone of legal age and it should be up to me what I let my children (assuming I have any) see and not see on that connection. I already had to click the “yes just give me the porn damn it” agreement on my mobile phone which was less likely to be randomly shared unmonitored and now this overbearing crap. I’ll just avoid sites and services that require this.
I’ll just avoid sites and services that require this.
It’s not the site wanting to do it. It’s a requirement from Parliament in the UK.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Safety_Act_2023
The Online Safety Act 2023[1][2][3] (c. 50) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom to regulate online content. It was passed on 26 October 2023 and gives the relevant Secretary of State the power to designate, suppress, and record a wide range of online content that is deemed “illegal” or “harmful to children”.[4][5]
The Act creates a new duty of care for online platforms, requiring them to take action against illegal content, or legal content that could be “harmful” to children where children are likely to access it. Platforms failing this duty would be liable to fines of up to £18 million or 10% of their annual turnover, whichever is higher. It also empowers Ofcom to block access to particular websites. It obliges large social media platforms not to remove, and to preserve access to, journalistic or “democratically important” content such as user comments on political parties and issues.
Just a friendly reminder that the OSA was never about safeguarding kids from seeing porn.
Are the government seriously worried about a child being exposed to Break Stuff or So What?
There are fans of Spotify?
It’s their silly little way of saying conned subscription holders.
I could tell Spotify was trash when I first heard about it. That Spotify decided to enshitify their already bad site makes it even worse.
I’m just as mystified as you.
The only time I interact with the service is when I’m sent a link to a cool band/song and I wind up on the site. “Oh, this again.” I really have zero concept of fandom for something like this.
You’re way better off with your own music collection. That is what I have.
Spotify fans?
Its as if law makers don’t learn from history. Do they not know what happened in the 90s and early 2000s when stores wouldn’t sell M rated video games or CDs with mature content labels? We found ways to get around that. We would go to stores that didn’t check or care, got our older sibling or friend to buy it for us. We burned copies of our friends CDs, or downloaded stuff off line with Limewire and Napster.
Same shit when there was prohibition in the US. People drove cars across the great lakes to bring alcohol into the US. People brewed there own spirits in bathtubs with radiator coils.
If people want to anomalously watch their favorite weird kinky shit or listing to music they like, they’re going to find a way. And, if the easiest way to do that is through piracy, that is what they are going to do.
Never understood Spotifys appeal. Youtube has always been better imo.
The few dumb artists who only release music there and nowhere else, the better streaming quality (I guess? I’ve read it somewhere), and slightly better at suggesting/categorizing music genres. I don’t use it because all the time I’d see people cry “I wish this was on Spotify!!!” in a YT comment section, and YT music had everything I wanted. Plus YT free is way more bearable that Spotify free, and I use ReVanced now anyway.
But yeah Spotify always sucked to me and I’m tired of those who shame others for not using it. The “Apple green bubble shaming” of the music world.
Don’t threaten, just do it. Enshittification must end.
The only reason we have mainstream paid video streaming now is because early Netflix was genuinely better than dodgy, pop-up riddled mirrors on movie4k.to. The convenience was well worth 8 bucks a month. Same for Spotify.
Fast forward 10 years and Spotify wants me to pay 15 €, scan my face and listen to forced podcast ads AND pay extra for paywalled audiobooks that used to be free? Meet my good old friend youtube-downloader, then.
The news can’t easily report on users actually returning to piracy; who would admit to it? And how would you get data on it? Much easier to truthfully report on users who talk about returning to piracy.
jerry584@programming.dev 6 months ago
I am using Spotify Premium. I am using Premium because I want ad free listening.