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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨nave@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • hex@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They should have credited Benn Jordan, aka The Flashbulb, as the one who came up with this idea. Link to the video:

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hate to be that guy, but PNG is a lossless format… Not sure bird based storage is lossless lol

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  • Throlkim@lemmy.throlk.im ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Here’s the video this is referencing, for those interested: www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCQCP-5g5bo Love his channel - he really does just spend months at a time following some ridiculous audio-based whim and he puts so much effort into it.

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I love it too, I really enjoyed the 7 levels of concerning audio surveillance (or whatever it was called) as well. First vid I saw from them.

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I love unhinged data storage methods. My favorite is storing data in internet server pings to australia: Harder Drive

    A close runner up goes to Can you store a Pokemon silver save INSIDE of Pokemon Emerald? Adef made his own video on it in I Turned Pokemon Emerald into a Flash Drive

    Anyone have more? This is like my favorite genre of internet nonsense

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    • sfjvvssss@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There was this perdon who encoded their data in video and uploaded it to YouTube.

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    • hex@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      youtu.be/qFZQPvdL5fQ

      I liked this one a lot

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What if all songbirds today are just singing encoded messages from a long dead civilization, passed down through generations of birds, and we just haven’t realised it yet

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    • devilish666@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Image

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    • WereCat@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But the reason there is nothing obvious on the spectrogram is because it’s compressed data

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      *hits bong*

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  • Glifted@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The video is rad if you haven’t seen it

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    • BiteSizedZeitGeist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Benn Jordan is one of my favorite musicians, YouTubers, and people in the world. Highly recommended

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      • AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Same, started following him about 6 months to a year ago and quickly became a fan

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    • madthumbs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It was nice, but a good test for the megabytes being claimed would be to reproduce a color photo with far more definition. PNG is a lossless format, and I’m pretty sure birds and spectrograms aren’t reproducing what they can do. (There’s a reason there’s only one example)

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      • bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I haven’t yet watched the video, but from the posted images, it looks like they converted the image itself to a frequency spectrum, so no image format encoding was involved before it reached the point of being audio.

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  • FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I literally just finished watching the video and open Lemmy to find this as the first post. That’s kinda crazy. It’s a great video. Just in case it hasn’t been posted yet here it is

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    • AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I love this dude’s work. He’s so chaotic, and it makes me happy to see someone thriving by leaning in their ADHD

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      • hex@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You know he makes music? It’s The Flashbulb :)

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      • warbond@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Definitely chaotic good energy. Big fan of his videos.

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      • gabbath@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        He’s great. Reminds me of Folding Ideas.

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  • wolfrasin@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Local mocking birds still sing that car alarm that hasn’t been popular in at least a decade. They love it and they’re the only ones

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  • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Would be more impressive if birds were real.

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    • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, if anything, this just proves they’re trancieving digital data. Not a good look for things that supposedly are not government surveillance drones. Imagine the mental gymnastics of someone still calling them animals afrer uploadung a digital file to something that looks like it’s covered in patchwork taxidermy from mammal and reptile parts and that spends all day flying, watching people, marking targets with paint and making jerky mechanical movements. I guess it takes all kinds to make a world, but still.

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    • Chee_Koala@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Image

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  • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Coupled with IP-over-avian-carrier, this would potentially make for an interesting concept.

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    • Grass@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      you could call it starlink

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      • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Starlingk*

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      • moseschrute@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Storklink

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    • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      And also make for a giant network of bird-dropping cataclysms weaving through the most populous areas.

      news.wisc.edu/content/…/Internet-Atlas-map.jpg

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      • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Why is Idaho’s Internet infrastructure in the shape of a shitting llama?

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  • askat@programming.dev ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can save a ZIP-bomb to a bird?

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What’s that weird symbol combination that kills iPhones if you text them to someone? I have a bird.

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      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Image

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  • AeonFelis@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    IPoAC is going to get so much faster!

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  • HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Imagine trying to catch random birds one day in the not so distant future to see if it “contains” an image.

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    • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is a concept in the Dune book series where the fremen use bats and birds who’s speech they can modify in a way that encoded any secret message they want and then they send the bird out and someone else can then catch the bird and decode it’s speech to get the message. That’s why in the Dune 2 movie there’s a bird menagerie inside the fremen caves

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    • Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Sounds based. Imagine getting Rick rolled by a bird 🤣

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      • HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Imagine finding that a bird “stored” a nude

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      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Damn I didn’t see you said this, I just posted the QR elsewhere in the comments when someone asked for an iPhone killcode

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  • jaredt@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is this solarpunk?

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Biopunk.

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      • SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ecopunk

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  • CuteLuciii@feddit.org ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Revival of the carrier pigeon

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  • makyo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Can starlings teach their friends songs? It’d be neat if the PNG bird song was pass down through the generations for future interplanetary visitors to discover

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    • deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The analog distortion would be fun to watch propagate from bird to bird.

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      • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’d make for a great element in a modern remake of the movie, The Birds.

        Researchers trying to reduce the distortion are tracking the patterns. They can’t figure it out until a main character, a blind audiologist who lost his vision in the first attack many decades ago, has an epiphany and suggests assembling the images in sequence to form a video. It shows a bird flying and flapping its wings. The researchers keep gathering data, making the video longer and more complex.The bird now also does loops and spins. The researchers set up remote microphones all over the world and network them with their computer so it can compile in real time.

        We learn that blind main character has now trained himself to “see” the images that he hears. Main character and love interest colleague walk through the park discussing their work as a flimsy pretext to spend time together. All of a sudden, the birdsong changes. “Run, love interest!” says main character, but love interest won’t leave main character behind. The camera pans over to the computer screen in their laboratory, which overlooks the park. The video now shows another scene at the end, an enormous eagle shredding a person with its talons and beak.

        That’s all I’ve got so far.

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    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      …well, now it’s an animated .gif but each frame is a separate bird.

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    • Crackhappy@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Birds are memes propagators into the future. Human civilization ends, but the starlings keep the memes alive… interesting idea for a story.

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      • Crackhappy@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        OOooh, what if we are spectrographing bird calls and suddenly we see a picture develop out of it. Or, you could use birds to store data and no one would ever know, like a spy thing.

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    you have heard about IP over avian carrier

    now get ready for:

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  • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes, but can Doom be played via birdsong?

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    • elvith@feddit.org ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Probably?

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  • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Messenger carrier pigeons are back baby! Quick, toss your 401k into Big Bird Co.

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  • Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Time to update the video on hard drives no one wants.

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  • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    How many birds do I need for about 4 hours at 15 Mbps? I want to watch The Return of the King in 4k.

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    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      One standard murmur.

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    • niktemadur@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You might need a murder of crows for that one.

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      • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Oh, that would be perfect! Our local avian rescue has had three unhomed crows for a while. I think they got another one recently, so it would be four good caws.

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  • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    why not .jxl?

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    • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The starling won’t accept JPEG-XL until somebody else builds a high quality decoder in a memory-safe language like Rust

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  • capt_wolf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    How many starlings do I need to store and play Doom?

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    • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I dunno, but here’s an example of Doom over audio spectrography to help get you started. Sorry in advance for the devil link:

      Doom spectrogram via the most wretched hive of scum and villainy that starts with the letter ‘R’

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  • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Oh. You just play them the sound and they sing it?

    pulls USB drive from backside of a pigeon

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    • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh my God, you’re right! I think I just found one of their contractors:

      www.thedronebird.com/products/

      Quick! Get the word out! I probably don’t have much ti

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  • medem@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Reminds me of IP over avian carriers ☺

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      1000081484

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  • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Had this in my Watch Later. Nice spoiler.

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    • HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I saw this elsewhere and thought it was bs earlier, but this time I decided to check it out.

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    • ch00f@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s in the first minute of the video.

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  • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Your starling enthusiast is named Sterling?

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  • Spesknight@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    X account is called Sterling, talking about a Starling, if you didn’t notice…

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  • jackeroni@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Humanities backup

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