Yes.
Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during meetings
Submitted 10 months ago by excel24@feddit.org to technology@lemmy.world
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bitchkat@lemmy.world 10 months ago
FermionWrangler@lemm.ee 10 months ago
There will be ways to capture it anyway. Probably specific software designed for GPU capture, since that’s how these apps “prevent” capturing, using GPU trickery.
tankplanker@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Simplest way is a Windows VM and screen capture in the OS running the VM. Obviously next step for Microsoft is to detect and block Windows VMs, good luck to them with that.
bss03@infosec.pub 10 months ago
The announcement from MS and the linked article both also mention this, though they recommend the real analogue hole: a separate camera pointed at the screen.
OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
To be clear this is an option enabled by the host. It most likely won’t be used for normal meetings.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Why would one use an intentionally impaired tool?
Squizzy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
We dont make the decision as to what suite to use?
Literally no one but our CFO ad shareholders like microsoft.
Zacryon@feddit.org 10 months ago
Because the company one works at is entangled in Microsoft products and totally dependend on it.
gradual@lemmings.world 10 months ago
More and more, I notice that Microsoft’s ubiquity in our society is to reinforce the idea that we need to take abuse and reward our abusers in order to be successful.
MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
[laughs in rdp from another machine]
MangoCats@feddit.it 10 months ago
Laughs at all the cell phone camera captures that will start showing up…
Bieren@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This is so you can then use their super cool and completely accurate AI summary tool that will be coming soon.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 months ago
“The meeting was about polishing yaks. The conclusion was green is important fudge.”
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 months ago
So you’re saying that I can just start an infinite empty meeting in order to block the AI Recall thing from recording my screen?
MangoCats@feddit.it 10 months ago
Oh, no, AI Recall has “special privileges” - just you lusers don’t.
SubUrbanIT@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Gonna be difficult to block screen capture when I have a phone in my hand with a camera that can be record what I see.
Zacryon@feddit.org 10 months ago
Don’t be so bold. Microsoft is investing in military AI applications. So don’t be surprised when your computer slaps that camera right out of your hands and punches you in the face. /j (or not, idk, things are looking bad)
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 months ago
There are some autonomous cars with lidar out there where the lidar is so powerful it can wreck a camera close up, but is still safe for eyes.
Switch up FaceID to use a more powerful laser which will wreck the phones camera.
chunes@lemmy.world 10 months ago
There are going to be fifty different bypasses up on github by the end of the week. This makes me want to join a corpo and record their precious meetings
lipilee@feddit.nl 10 months ago
now that all the performance, reliability, and usability issues are solved in Teams, it’s great to see all that energy going into this useful feature that is surely not possible to circumvent in any way.
SubUrbanIT@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Now we get to break it.
Kannushi_Link@lemmy.world 10 months ago
So it would block screen/video capture, but will it block sound-only capture, too?
bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
It will be funny if they try, because plenty of presentation setups will break
MangoCats@feddit.it 10 months ago
Jerb security.
bitchkat@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Run teams in a VM and take a screen shot from the host OS.
kepix@lemmy.world 10 months ago
on a work laptop?
morphballganon@mtgzone.com 10 months ago
Some of us have remote desktop capabilities on our wfh machines
phx@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Or just use the smartphone camera that almost everyone is going to have anyhow…
tauren@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Recording a 1h meeting with a smartphone sounds like a nightmare.
embed_me@programming.dev 10 months ago
Like record it using a camera? That’s a substantial downgrade
gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 10 months ago
they should also blank the screen if the user has recall enabled
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Are you stupid? Next week they will sell an add on that let’s you recall the whole meeting. You need to start thinking outside the box if you’re gonna make it in scummy corporate sales.
phantomwise@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
It’s okay people, even if the feature in itself is not awful, MS Teams still is awful. We can still bash on MS to relieve past Windows trauma.
msbeta1421@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I hate stuff like this because screen grabs during meetings or lectures is my favorite way to take notes.
MangoCats@feddit.it 10 months ago
Now I know why they’re trying to push corporate users off of Linux, again.
xavier666@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Nooooo. If you do that, you won’t be paying for Teams Premium which has built in support for screen recording. Think of the revenue lost 😭😭
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 10 months ago
“To address the issue of unauthorized screen captures during meetings, the Prevent Screen Capture feature ensures that if a user attempts to take a screen capture, the meeting window will turn black, thereby protecting sensitive information,” Microsoft shared in a new Microsoft 365 roadmap entry.
“This feature will be available on Teams desktop applications (both Windows and Mac) and Teams mobile applications (both iOS and Android).”
Yeah, seems like a perfectly reasonable feature to add. It will also likely be a toggle-able feature switch.
Surely there’s no way Lemmy gets angry at this, right?
Jayb151@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I mean… Would it do the same with a 3rd party screenshot app? Or even something like obs? So many ways around it, no reason to get too upset.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 10 months ago
Probably, but won’t really know until it comes out.
JordanZ@lemmy.world 10 months ago
[deleted]FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 10 months ago
The feature is fine in theory. In practice, especially with work from home, it’s useless to achieve the goal it set out to. The article even points it out.
While true, that doesn’t really matter when it comes to enterprise. For security compliance you have to be shown to be doing everything that you can to prevent security breaches etc. This feature is another tick box that you can show to whoever is doing your audits to show that you are doing it.
Also most people don’t sit there in meetings with their finger on the screenshot key ready to go - but it is simple to just press a screenshot key on your keyboard. It’s a little bit harder to have your phone up and with the camera open the entire time ready to take photos, especially if cameras are on - especially if something just pops up briefly on screen and you realise you want to capture it.
I don’t know your experience in enterprise, but I can tell you that a feature like this will be much applauded by those running companies for the reasons above.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 10 months ago
My problem with it is that it gives a sense of security that does not exist.
Non-Technical folk will click the button and think they’re safe
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 10 months ago
My problem with it is that it gives a sense of security that does not exist.
It gives security for 99% of people that will ever be on the calls, and most importantly it gives the company something to point to whenever they get security audits.
phantomwise@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
I really want to dump on them but I can’t find anything wrong with the feature… That’s depressing, I’ll have to look elsewhere for my dose of “MS can’t do anything right lol”
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
You can just take a picture with a camera, which is included with a device pretty much everyone carries with them every day.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
i mean if someone really wanted to commit espionage they’d just take a photo of the screen with their camera.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I suspect running teams on Windows in Parallels on a Mac would still let me use the Mac’s screen record feature.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 10 months ago
So many commenters here and at the article get a hard on to bash MS for anything.
MS won’t make this a requirement, nor will they make using the Teams app a requirement. This isnt some backhanded way to get people to switch from Linux to windows.
This is MS responding to an enterprise feature request.
biofaust@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I bet they will still make it default.
mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The moment a certain company is mentioned in an article, lemmy will go rabid, it doesn’t really matter what the article is about. I am a Linux nerd and if MS crashed and burned tomorrow I wouldn’t exactly shed a tear but the knee jerk reactions are pretty weird to observe.
Iambus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Because Lemmy Linux bros like to get their titty in a twist.
gradual@lemmings.world 10 months ago
I think it’s more that average users aren’t accustomed to seeing Linux be a larger part of discussions here than on corporate platforms.
fatalicus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah, commented on the sister thread of this over on the technology subreddit that this wouldnt be a default on feature, and probably be either something the meeting owner has to enable (or tenant admins set to enabled in a policy) or it will be part of sensitivity labels or DLP policies.
Instant downvote.
yesman@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The reflexive hate for M$ is not irrational fan-boys bashing a rival, but bitterness over prolonged and profound annoyance, suffering, and downright abuse experienced through using the products produced by that dogshit company.
I switched because I wanted software that didn’t hate me and my values.
What’s irrational is the Stockholm-syndrome Windows user who thinks it’s normal and right to run software that spies, advertises, and generally treats users like a resource to be exploited.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Both are irrational IMO. Don’t make up reasons to hate a feature, but do attack the features that spy on you.
nocteb@feddit.org 10 months ago
So does running teams in a windows vm prevent me to take a screenshot on the Linux host? I can’t imagine it would.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I can’t see how it would. Can a VM tell it’s a VM?
vfsh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
There are plenty of ways for a VM to tell that it’s a VM and not on baremetal, but there’s not really a way for a program running on an OS in the VM to block the Host OS or hypervisor software from capturing an image of the screen of the VM.
ouch@lemmy.world 10 months ago
“This feature will be available on Teams desktop applications (both Windows and Mac) and Teams mobile applications (both iOS and Android).”
What about Teams browser?
OBS Studio has been able to record Teams meetings so far, on Linux.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
regarding the quote, will they just not let linux users connect to the call when that restriction is turned on?
toastmeister@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
This is why they require a TPM, your motherboard will be DRM against you owning the operating system.
Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
I installed Windows 11 with an unsupported CPU, kinda funny how it just worked despite all their screeching that it wouldn’t work and updating not working, but installing with installation media was flawless.
It’s a real bitch, automatically logging me into my partner’s account for the whole system and overriding my local user settings when I open MS Office apps Excel or Word, and it cries about my lack of TPM on those apps and the Start menu when it does log in, but you know what? Everything still actually operates.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
I don’t want to be that guy, but why use Windows at that point?
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 10 months ago
What CPU?
The list of unsupported CPUs is for OEMs licensing new computers as Windows 11 certified.
Nothing stopping you installing Windows 11 or upgrading to Windows 11 with an incompatible CPU.
The only item that requires a hack is the lack of TPM. Now that I still don’t understand.
original_reader@lemm.ee 10 months ago
…for now.
wewbull@feddit.uk 10 months ago
My company is transitioning to teams. Most of our engineering is on Linux.
Can Microsoft please hurry up and break teams so we can’t transition?
iLStrix@lemmy.world 10 months ago
OK, I’m really curious on what programs your engineers use then. Engineering has been one of the use-cases for me, that made it basically impossible to switch to Linux full-time. If you know, please tell me.
wewbull@feddit.uk 10 months ago
All the EDA tools for silicon design are Linux based.
BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 10 months ago
We have Linux. We just use the in browser app. Works fine.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Don’t worry, teams is always somewhere between 10%-30% broken, always something n doesn’t work, there are always a bunch of people that can’t get in the meeting, that can’t share screens all of the sudden because fuck you, that’s why
Teams is the absolute worst and not a day goes by without people shitting on it, and we’re only using it because most of our customers do but internally we will switch to something open source soon, because I get to make that decision 😎
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
you know, sometimes I wonder if Matrix could be used in a business setting, and worry about its rough edges and buggy features of Element. but you know what! it would probably be fine! not worse than teams, and at least they don’t want to fuck you over!
taladar@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I have looked but I just couldn’t find an open source alternative that supported Teams core features like showing an error every time I login.
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Those joining from unsupported platforms will be automatically placed in audio-only mode to protect shared content.
I think this has gone and done it for you
crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 10 months ago
So take a fucking picture with your phone
Goretantath@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Welp, there goes any accountability.
adespoton@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
The important bit:
Those joining from unsupported platforms will be automatically placed in audio-only mode to protect shared content.
And I presume everything except Windows 11 Teams will be considered “unsupported”.
kayazere@feddit.nl 10 months ago
Don’t worry, Recall will record everything done on the Windows machine.
Grimtuck@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ll have to use the camera phone again then.
leicharben@aussie.zone 10 months ago
Microsoft Teams will soon encourage users to point their phones at their screens from off camera during meetings
futatorius@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It’s inevitable they’ll do everything they can to degrade the usability of their shitty products.