Indie games are the future.
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Submitted 1 year ago by eru777@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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FuckFascism@lemmy.world 1 year ago
umbraroze@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Game prices have nothing to do with inflation (or even production costs) and everything to do with arbitrary price points the industry just settles upon. Nothing forces them to charge that much, yet they do it because they think they can get away with it for now.
Rising prices have had an effect on me - I’m definitely not buying as many games as I used to, least of all impulsively on hearsay, and I’m not trusting any publisher enough to preorder stuff anymore. So they went past my pain point, sorry. If they keep doing this, they’ll run over everybody. I don’t think this is a sustainable direction.
Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 year ago
“Inflation decreases” means “the prices are being raised slower”.
What you are looking for, prices going down, is “deflation”. Governments generally do their best to avoid that, because people would start holding off on purchases expecting lower prices next week, month, quarter,… and it would tank the economy.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
If not so much about holding purchases. Is about money sitting. With deflation your money is worth more each day. So investment is discouraged. Why risk money if money by itself grow?
In a economy based on investments that not desired
toastmeister@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I think its because deflation is when the money supply is contracting, so asset values begin to be valued at their actual value instead of their inflated nominal value. Which an inflated nominal value causes more consumption via the wealth effect, and the misallocation known as the business cycle.
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Governments generally do their best to avoid that, because people would start holding off on purchases expecting lower prices next week, month, quarter,… and it would tank the economy.
That’s not how human nature works. If people need groceries, they aren’t going to hold off purchases until the prices go down.
gingernate@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Right, but instead of spending 1200 a month they are only spending 800.
Solemarc@lemmy.world 1 year ago
In my local currency (Aussie Dollars) AAA games cost $120. Like, man, I’m not spending $120 on a game. I can’t remember the last time I bought a game at that price.
Goretantath@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Prices will only come down if the company decides to stop being greedy. Inflation is just a word to oppress the poor, theres no need to keep prices raised if record breaking profits are made.
formergijoe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Finally, video games cost as much as Chrono Trigger did when it came out!
Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
That’s not how inflation works.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I just want to say inflation decreasing doesn’t mean that prices will go down
If anything, inflation measures the acceleration of price increases.
If this acceleration still is positive, but, less than before, there is still a price increase.
It is only less than it would have if it hadn’t decreased
Auntievenim@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Degrowth economy baby!!! We’re getting it!
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Why are people so desperate to play new games, I’ve got a large pile of games I bought on sale that I haven’t even played once yet. Why would I ever pay launch price for a game knowing full well it’ll be worth 10$ a couple of years down the line, and till then I’ll play the games I already own.
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
It’s basically FOMO, people just want to be a part of living culture.
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And game companies and media outfits advertise the shit out of them because they drive console sales.
I much prefer to be on Steam, think, “Oh, that looks cool,” then forget about it on my wishlist for two years until it pops up at 80% off.
Draegur@lemm.ee 1 year ago
A headline in the near future:
“are millennials killing the gaming industry?”
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Millennials are no longer the media scapegoat; we’ve aged out. Gen Z are copping all the blame now!
DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The problem with millennials is that they firmly believe a McChicken should never cost more than a dollar.
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 1 year ago
A McChicken is definitely not worth more than $1 lol
Draegur@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I was born in 85 and I think 1.50 would have been an appropriate price for McDoubles and McChickens. But not three fucking dollars
Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] 1 year ago
PC + emulators = fuck greedy corporations. Get fucked Microsoft. Get fucked Nintendo. And Sony? Fuck you too. Indie devs tho, you’re cool.
Goronmon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, thankfully with PC gaming there are no large corporations involved.
Grimm665@lemm.ee 1 year ago
mriormro@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Allow me to introduce you you Expedition 33.
I haven’t finished it yet but it’s fucking great. I bought it and thought it was on sale. Turns out that was just the MSRP.
monkeyman512@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, prices will only go down if sales go down massively. And since video games are likely being used as an emotional coping mechanism, that seems unlikely.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 year ago
The thing about demand/supply ratios is there’s also cost.
AAA games aren’t coming down in sticker price without actual deflation. That’s just not how it works. That they were selling at $60 for so long is a function of cost reductions in an industry where the only thing left to cut is employee costs or the widespread adoption of AI dreck.
If you want a game for less than $80 you’re going to have to buy games with smaller development scopes.
monkeyman512@lemmy.world 1 year ago
True. This may actually be a boon to smaller devoplers who can sell games for less money because there development costs are less ambitious.
reddthat_209@reddthat.com 1 year ago
So glad I went back to PC gaming recently before all the price hikes. I am more than happy to wait for a good game to mature at a discount when I’m ready to jump on it.
nuko147@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Inflation positive --> prices increasing
Inflation near zero --> prices stable
Inflation negative --> prices decreasing, but you are in a huge economic crisis
piyuv@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Inflation near zero and salaries increase -> purchasing power increasing, which is something we can only dream about
merc@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
That’s not something that can be solved by changing interest rates. To increase wages you need unions and for those unions to go on strike.
jacksilver@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The US was on its way to that, until Trump and Republicans decided to trash the entire world economy.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 1 year ago
It is possible, but financial types will tell you that you will lose your job. Which is funny, because most products and services require labor to make any money from them, so it sounds to me that if deflation occurs and profit is still required, you have the option to layoff a bunch of people or get creative.
Maybe it’s just me, but I’d be a lot happier if I had a bunch of employees that know how the business works and know where things can be improved and do it. Maybe like getting rid of managers who only know how to change the headcount of their bit of the org.
AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Just wait 3 months after switch 2 releases. If you already have a gaming computer, I can almost guarantee that you’ll be able to play launch titles at 10-20fps on an emulator, so long as sintendo do such a piss-poor job of antipiract measures in their consoles (like they’ve always done).
otp@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Should’ve been “Until the tariffs are gone, right?”
then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s not how inflation works. Inflation going down means they just stay around 80 and in theory your wages gradually come up so 80 now feels like 40.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
If inflation is zero, your wages won’t rise all that much. Most of your yearly wage is to keep up with inflation, so if you’re not getting promotions, don’t expect to beat inflation by much.
then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If productivity is going up wages should go up. However what has been happening is that the extra money has been being funneled into the pockets of the rich. I’ll bet you the board and senior management ain’t giving themselves inflation based pay rises.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Why didn’t you include Sony in this image? They increased prices even before Nintendo.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Those games are so expensive because people will pay those prices. There are plenty of cheap games to be had.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s really not how inflation works. We’d somehow need negative inflation, which probably only exists in the nightmares of economists.
MrNesser@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Remember when we were told games cost so much because of packaging
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It was a nontrivial cost that factored into the price, and the switch to digital is a large part of why game prices were so inflation resistant for so long.
madjo@feddit.nl 1 year ago
Until the market is unwilling or unable to pay it
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
[deleted]RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sony started the $70 game increase. Nintendo is just following Sony, really.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Prices never go down for things like that, they only go up.
Vince@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Taking the most naive view here, but is there any chance, increasing the price will in any way prevent more layoffs in the video game industry?
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It lowers the threshold of how many copies need to sell before a given game breaks even on its budget. It also lowers the number of copies it will sell, because some percentage of people who would have bought a game at the lower price no longer find it to be worth what they’re charging for it.
amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
no, if anything it will increase them because prices going up is almost always tied to mass layoffs. austerity package and all that.
piskertariot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Steam: Games are $5 if you’re willing to wait.
shplane@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I wish Factorio would go on sale but the makers said that’ll never happen
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Probably closer to $10 going forward. $5 just isn’t what it used to be.
november@lemmy.vg 1 year ago
Or they’re free if your library has video games.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Or they’re free if you’re willing to sail the high seas
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s the best model. Nintendo games used to get cheaper over time too. Idk how that stopped so easily. I guess you can’t find them used without game stop in most places though so they are happy to keep it high
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Or if you’re like me and don’t care about the latest big studio games. I play games by development teams with less than 10 people, tending towards just one person. I have no desire to play any of Nintendo’s newest games.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Buying new games is decreasing in value sharply. They are releasing broken games, overpriced and with invasive DRM.
Play games 2+ years delayed. They are completely fixed and in a playable state, reasonably priced with frequent sales and some game get their shit DRM removed for better performance.
And no. Games as a service and fomo are NOT enough to buy games on day one.
Peffse@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Doesn’t work on Nintendo, for some reason. Mario Tax expanded to anything first or second party, so the best you’ll see is $20 off new price on Mar10 for the games that came out 5 years ago. It’s like every retailer came to the agreement that Nintendo games don’t depreciate.
Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Best way to get 20$ off is to buy the game 2nd hand.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Lol. I won’t buy them, so I don’t care.