Submitted 5 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/news/643483/nintendo-switch-2-preorders-delayed-tariffs
This is going to be a rare case where a piece of consumer electronics is going to be quite a bit cheaper in Australia compared to the USA. Usually stuff costs more in Australia.
The Switch is currently US$450 and will probably go up with tariffs. Meanwhile, it’s listed as AU$700 in Australia, which is AU$630 before tax (all advertised prices include tax), which is US$385.
Regardless of price, Nintendo is a shit legacy company that is riding on the coattails of the 90’s.
They never have games on steep discounts like their competitors, ensure emulations and artistic expressions are shut down immediately, and barely change shit to their flagship games such as Pokemon. They’re creatively stale and are blessed to have a rabid fan base who can’t see through it.
I got a switch since my kid brought grades home, but that’s the last piece of electronic device I’ll ever buy from Nintendo. This is someone who has played back in its heyday the N64.
People who ‘boycott’ and go back to buying what they boycotted because said company pushed out a halfass apology tweet deserve to lose their money.
You seem to be missing the point, the Nintendo Switch is handily the most popular game console in US gaming history. It has officially sold more units than the PS2.
I’m sorry that you don’t appreciate the switch, it’s an amazing general purpose gaming console.
They’re definitely creatively stale, but they’re also undeniably good at what they do. They have by far the best selling console of the last generation, and are the only console company to consistently post healthy profits on their operation.
Is it a bit naff that their next generation of games will almost certainly be yet another Zelda, yet another Mario, yet another Pokémon? Absolutely. But if their next Zelda game is yet another best-selling critically acclaimed success, who are we to say that they’ve got the wrong approach?
Fucking PREACH!
What’s this boycott and half assed apology thing? I completely missed whatever that was.
In Europe it’s €385+taxes (all advertised prices must include tax) which is $425+tax, with two (mandatory) years of warranty included in price
I’ve not no idea how this’ll work out. Nvidia is American.
Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged. Wonder if the price of the console and even the cartridge games will change.
I think they necessarily will. I can’t imagine retailers eating the lost margin.
Retailers won’t eat it all, consumers will
Absolutely. The console is manufactured in Vietnam, which now has a 46% tariff.
The console is manufactured in Vietnam
Which begs the question of why the console is going to be $100 cheaper for Japanese than anyone else even before you factor in the tariff situation.
Couldn’t they move it to another country first to reduce it a bit?
Cartridge games for the Switch 2 aren’t even cartridge games anymore, haven’t you heard? There’s no game on the cartridges just a passkey.
Yeah that’s a big no from me my last handheld console was the Vita and I felt even that was overpriced for games that were actually on the cartridge.
If everything is actually digital I’m simply not buying Sony killed my account with them because I didn’t login within 6 months and I’d actually bought games there so screw digital
They just replace the code-in-a-box releases we had with gen 1 of the switch. They’re still doing the regular cartridges with the game on the card.
Dammm, the best part is everyone speculated that the price it’s at now was to predict and get ahead of tarrif pricing by already setting it higher. The fact that it’s not is scary.
I think the $450 USD was just keeping up with inflation.
$300 in March 2017 when the switch originally launched is equivalent to almost $400 today ($392 and some change). S2 is launching at $450, if they were only expecting 15%-ish tariffs then maybe, but it should then be cheaper outside of the US if tariffs were the only reason.
I would say it’s more that some studios are spending even more to make them, games don’t have to cost more to make as you can now make a lot more with a smaller team than you could 20 years ago.
No, it’s one of the most expensive Nintendo consoles ever. Only beat by the NES and the SNES. Those released when prices were at all time highs for this stuff.
God damn everyone has heard this stupid ass argument and it just makes you stupid to repeat it. Shut up.
Would tariffs apply to the games as well?
and some games arnt even worth 60$ to begin with
The market wasn’t expecting the tariffs to be as insane as they were — which is why it crashed. They had been expecting 10% maximums, not minimums.
Well we knew the price didn’t include the tarrifs when we saw Europe get absolutely crazy high prices. Higher than the US and a lot higher if we take into account the dollar tanking right now.
That was the first thing I thought of too.
Did anyone check with reddit
Blanket no on that one
Surprised Reddit just hasn’t shut down r/Nintendo since Spez and Musk are scared of a 5 letter word.
Still scared.
Nope.
Everyone pissing themselves over Nintendo not putting the price in the Direct when the reason why was pretty obvious, I thought.
*in the USA
You can tell Americans think their country is the Internet, and the Internet is oriented for Americans.
You’re not wrong. But OP just wrote what the title said and the article quickly clarifies its for the US.
I would never had imagined that in my lifetime I’d see gringos reverse-smuggling game consoles from Mexico. I guess you could smuggle them from Canada too, but Mexico has always smuggled merch from USA. We even have a term for it: “fayuca”.
The lucky ones that live near the border can cross, shop switches 2 at non-orange prices, open them and smuggle the back as personal devices.
Oh, you think Canadians aren’t going to get in on tariff evasion? They 100% will.
The tremendous irony is America was founded to evade massive tariffs, sorta… and now we’re doing it to our self.
All of North America actually.
🤣 all those Republican Nintendo fans have to love all this winning. What a bunch of dumbasses.
I really wonder how big that demographic is. My impression is that most Republicans would be culturally turned off by Nintendo’s brand.
Don’t ever tell them about that one quest in BOTW
I see a lot of people ragging on the switch and comparing it to the Steam Deck. I own both but
I’m gonna say this: they’re not even direct competitors. They don’t offer the same experiences at all.
The beauty of the Switch is the ease of use, modularity of control, and communal nature of it. Even if switch online sucks, playing with other switches or 8 people in the same room with certain games is unbelievably easy. The plug and play usability and every single game you can buy from the internal store just works.
Not to mention the dock is flawless and literally easy to use. For all its problems, the switch is a surprisingly well executed idea. There’s a reason they sold hundreds of millions of them.
Steam is catching up, but there’s still a ways to go between proton compatible games, connecting controllers, plugging into a dock without having to bend down and plug a cable etc. The Switch is simply put: easy.
That said, Nintendo is stupid for pricing the Switch 2 out of the “no brainer” casual gamer territory.
I see a lot of people saying they shouldn’t be compared, but it still does make sense to do so as most can’t afford both.
And outside of coop couch, the switch pales in comparison on just about everything else.
Game prices: higher
Feel in hands? Awkward
Removable controllers: pop off or loosen during solo gameplay causing everything to pause in order to fix it, which can, but isn’t always, be a quick easy fix.
Plus, games like Animal Crossing that allow coop couch still demand individual switch consoles if you want the full experience for multiple people.
As owner and early adopter of both - disagree.
Switch is gathering dust for me and everytime I pull it out i feel like getting my steamdeck instead.
The only exception I can think off is low profile traveling but that’s a very small niche if people.
That’s a bit unnecessary. I’m just pointing out people are trying to compare two things that aren’t the same.
By that logic though, I think Nintendo has a “dumb cock” for charging as much as they are for Switch 2, some not really sure what it tastes like.
Also most of Nintendo’s target audience has no idea that the Steam Deck exists. Like if a kid asks their parents for a Switch 2 the parents aren’t going to suggest the Steam Deck since they don’t know what it is. Nintendo does a shit ton of traditional advertising, the Nintendo brand has an enormous mind share among the general audience. The mind share for Steam is almost non existent outside of PC gamers.
And many kids I know who play PC games don’t even have Steam installed. Since they only play Roblox and Fortnite on their PC. Nintendo is not competing with the Steam Deck. Their real competition is Apple and Android because of Fortnite, Roblox and TikTok.
you can fix the online problems with a USB-to-ethernet adapter on the dock
Yeah, people are bitching about first party titles never going down in price, meanwhile I’m here enjoying my 300Eur indie machine.
This is the kind of creature comfort inconvenience that will tank this administration’s popularity. Americans are fickle and will not accept this kind of disruption to their lives.
One can only hope, but knowing how fucking stupid my right-wing, sycophantic, fellow countrymen are I doubt much will change.
Pretty sure everyone who voted against him already hates him though.
I’ve been feeling like there are quite a few parallels to the Brexit mess in this past election and this administration’s policies. It took a while for the reality of Brexit to evaporate away the magical thinking; I think it’s just a matter of time before the same happens here as the cost of living shoots up as a result of these tariffs.
More importantly, people who don’t pay attention to politics and didn’t realize that any of this had any consequences to their lives just suddenly felt it
For the US only, lol
Where does it say that?
Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions.
From the article.
Not sure if the same thing but in Japan the Pre-purchase reservation lottery has already opened.
Yeah, bullshit. They’re just using tariffs to further increase the price.
100 bucks cheaper in Japan than any other region? 90 dollar games?
Get bent, Nintendo, I’ll stick to the steam deck and wait for emulation.
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I delayed my preorder when I saw the bullshit price gouging for game prices.
don’t worry good America people I’d play the games in your stead while you’re busy supporting your local brands
You can still get a Steam Deck and save a ton of games.
The Switch 2 looks like absolute garbage so they can keep it.
My next console purchase with be a Steam Deck.
Nintendo going to suck trump dick so they can get the pricepoint they want.
No worries not Nintendo! I don’t like you so I wasn’t gonna buy one due to all the lawsuits.
ELI5 smuggling a Switch2 over the Mexico or Canadian border. Not that I would recommend that or anything. For science. And fanfic.
Looks like it has some promising titles but I don’t think price wise is can compete with the ryzen based handheld pcs like the steam deck etc. It doesn’t make much sense so far as I can tell but I’m still curious what titles it gets and how the battery life compares
$442 Wait, new us price (since its built in china, for a Japanese company) is $1000
Is this global or just USA?
carrion0409@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Are we tired of winning yet America ?
noride@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Tbh I was tired way before any of this.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Are… Are we great again, yet?
suite403@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Brown people can still drink from the same fountains still, so no. /s
carrion0409@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
The jury is still out it seems
someguy3@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Not until Nintendo picks up and moves to America.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Unfortunately, we’ll probably keep winning for at least the next few months, it looks like the party is just getting started.