I don’t know why but I couldn’t give two shits about GTA6, maybe I’m just burned out on AAA games
The specter of a GTA 6 delay haunts the games industry: 'Some companies are going to tank' if they guess wrong, says analyst
Submitted 4 weeks ago by tonytins@pawb.social to games@lemmy.world
Comments
Elkot@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Because it will be full of micro transactions and bullshit content no-one asked for, with anti cheat horseshit that will pretty much be a virus on your computer.
Sad thing is that it’ll still sell millions because most people don’t even know when they are being served shit.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
No doubt it’ll also have Denuvo, just to make the game run even worse too.
tonytins@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
maybe I’m just burned out on AAA games
I know I am.
MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Im opposed. Its maybe only AAA game im intrested in long time.
Mostly because of their track record. I have been playing GTA since the very first top down game and every main game in the series has pushed the games further.
Thinking how big leaps every game has done, i cant wait to see what kind of the beast 6 is going to be.
echodot@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
I just want trains to work in this new game. They never make trains work properly they’re always just indestructible juggernauts and are therefore boring. GTA V had submarines but not drivable trains.
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m the same but I may just be getting older. Last game I was hyped for was Cyberpunk 2077 coming off of the stellar Witcher 3 and having followed both games I loved, W1 & W2. Sometime before it released, I just dropped all hype for it and haven’t felt the same after. Haven’t even played it yet either.
Today, I let myself be pleasantly surprised by games I never thought I’d like. I really liked Death Stranding and I’m waiting for its sequel but still no hype… I haven’t even seen the trailer yet and I doubt I will… I’ll buy it and go in blindly.
boonhet@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I’m holding out some hope for GTA VI still. Reason being, while Cyberpunk promised to be super duper everything interconnected magic programming to follow an absolutely awesome but technologically realistic game (Witcher 3), I haven’t seen hype like that for GTA VI. The expectation is to get a well polished freeroam game with lots of fun toys to play around with, a story that’s hopefully long enough to be worth the game’s price, and a new Online mode that gets updates over time. Basically GTA V with a new city and a more polished game overall, but no exponential leaps - despite the fact that the budget is much larger than Cyberpunk.
But I mean MudRunner is also awesome. Couldn’t get into Death Stranding myself, just wasn’t feeling it. Should pick up Art of Rally soon. Tons of great AA and indie games out there if GTA VI flops indeed.
Lightor@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s just so meh. Another city, you’re a criminal doing crime. There are just games with much better stories or mechanics at this point. I don’t get the hype around it.
biscuit@lemdro.id 4 weeks ago
Weird vibes in this comment section.
David_the_designer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
They are all from players who are against things Rockstar did with GTA and what it represents for the industry. But they are not representative of the whole market.
The article is right about the impact for small studios. On the timeline for the game I’m working on, we have a prediction for GTA VI release with a big question mark and we hope to avoid it.
The problem is not that all players will spend $100 on the game. The problem is that the majority of the press coverage, Steam traffic, streamer time, etc. will focus on the topic. Even if there is bad press around GTA, that’s still attention that is not on other games.
neatchee@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Exactly this. I work in the games industry as well and even big studios are falling over themselves NOT to release anywhere near GTA6.
Nobody believes there won’t be people playing other games at that time. But it’s going to dominate the media cycle for a month, especially if it is either better or worse than fans hope. And the reality is that many, many people have limited gaming budgets. If you’ve only got $100 to spend, GTA6 is very likely to be the default pick at that time.
It’s a behemoth in terms of grabbing attention from both the media and players. All the best laid plans for a successful release can be completely derailed by a game like GTA6.
tonytins@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
I really didn’t know what to expect with this article. That being said, the industry holding their breath on GTA 6 is a bit much, to say the least.
MossyFeathers@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
Wait, do people still get excited for GTA? I thought GTA V online killed a lot of goodwill for the series.
biscuit@lemdro.id 4 weeks ago
Are you seriously questioning whether there is any hype for GTA?
GTAV Online may have hindered Rockstar’s goodwill for fans of the single player mode, but the Online mode rakes in cash.
RDR2 released in 2018 and is widely considered one of the best single player games with one of the best open worlds.
GTA VI is, unquestionably, the most anticipated game of the year. To suggest otherwise is to be insanely disingenuous on your part.
MossyFeathers@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
No, I’m honestly surprised. I’ve barely heard anything about GTA VI. Seriously. I don’t care about it, none of my friends have talked about it despite being the kinda game that they’d be into, and I’ve only seen one or two articles on it.
You sure it’s that highly anticipated? My observation is that people have gotten really sick and tired of AAA games, and this is a shift that’s occurred since RDR2 came out. Very few of the people I know still regularly play AAA games, and those who do almost never buy them on launch. I haven’t seen anywhere near the same amount of hype for GTA VI as I saw for GTA IV or GTA V.
You’re accusing me of being disingenuous? Maybe you’re the one who’s buying into the hype and overestimating public interest. Or perhaps the true answer is somewhere in the middle. Who knows. I was not intentionally downplaying your favorite series though.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It did. I’ve been a GTA player since the first one kn PS1.
I’ve bought every GTA game.
I have zero interest in GTA6.
SomGye@dormi.zone 4 weeks ago
Same here. GTAV, while I liked it, was a minor disappointment for me and I burned out on it. Plus after seeing how GTA Online went and how greedy they got with it, I’m just not interested in Take Two/Rockstar games anymore.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
not to mention they decided to block Linux users back in October. I had very little interest in it in the last 6 or 7 years, but I decided when a friend played it I would try to join, just to be met with performance issues and getting kicked offline due to their anticheat. So stupid. It worked for years in Linux, then they just decide to boot it.
I lost what little interest period in anything GTA from that.
absquatulate@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
This is so strange. Wasn’t it not long ago that studios were crowding into very specific release windows ( usually november iirc ) so they could maximize initial sales? Maybe the digital release era has changed things. I mean, I get it if your game was in the same niche or smth, but “companies might tank” seems a little much.
Either way, if this is true, eoy 2025 is in for a dry spell when it comes to new games.
lorty@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Over time they realised that, while holiday windows or whatever have high sales, if there’s a better or more popular game coming out then, yours will just be forgotten.
That said, most “industry specialists” are just glorified influencers, so take it with a grain of salt
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
They aren’t crowding into those windows because competition helps their sales, it’s because they expect the biggest shopping period of the year will result in more sales than they lose. And there’s a reason only the biggest titles release in these windows.
Capcom made the decision years ago to release in February/March because they know a November window will drown them.
tonytins@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
Sure is a great way to stir the pot, that’s for sure. This article raised my eyebrow so much I just had to share it.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
big games get delayed, a lot
And yet so many of them still suck at launch.
WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s cause the business side keeps pushing for increasingly unrealistic deadlines and will only accept delaying so much before forcing it out.
Wahots@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
Judging by all the shark card crap they jammed into the last GTA, I fully expect them to shovel a bunch of crap in to make more money: $70 base games, deluxe editions, DLC, micro transactions, social club integration, required internet connections, all of it.
I miss the old GTAs before they got greedy.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
As an optimist, I expect more expansions like Gay Tony and for them to simply make fun of microtransactions on the radio.
ripcord@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Ah, full expansion DLC. That’d be nice.
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Companies need to grow a spine. Good games sell regardless of what’s out. If your confidence in your own game is so low that you’d push it to a slow release date, it’s probably not worth playing anyway.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I don’t know about that one. Games are expensive these days and if your game releases anywhere near the rumored $100 GTA 6, a LOT of people are going to have to choose one or the other, and it’s very unlikely that in most cases they don’t choose GTA6, literally the most anticipated video game of the last decade. Sure you can always buy the smaller game later, but a huge part of the sales of video games is the opening week, when all the hype around it has had time to come to a head, and you’re influenced by the fact that lots of other people are playing it.
Yeah good games will always sell SOME copies. But if you thinking that a game even releasing in the same month as GTA6 won’t have a permanent impact on that games sales, you’re smoking the reefer.
silverlose@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I think what you’re saying is true but perhaps you’re both talking about different things. I think you’re speaking about the reality of the situation whereas the comment OP is talking about the risk averse nature of large game studios. I don’t think it’s the same thing.
Also, I think I’m part of a growing minority but if gta 6 reviews are bad I’m not buying it until I hear it’s been fixed. I’ve been burned so many times 😭
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
if you thinking that a game even releasing in the same month as GTA6 won’t have a permanent impact on that games sales, you’re smoking the reefer.
Maybe they should stop trying to peddle bland-ass live action games that live and die by their players numbers then. A good solo game might take a hit to its initial sales but should recover in the long run.
pyre@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
that’s not true. games can absolutely get fucked by release dates coinciding with big names.
deadfatquarterzip@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
The two Horizon games picked really shitty weeks to release on lol. I think that’s done significant damage to the player base. They’re not groundbreaking games, but still extremely well done (imo)
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Ask Titanfall 2 how well launching between Battlefield and CoD went for them
Release dates of big games matter, people only have so much disposable income
echodot@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
I’m not quite sure why they’re so concerned. I suspect they’re actually not and this is just things “analysts” say.
I suspect that the release of GTA VI is going to be lukewarm compared to the release of GTA V, because everyone remembered what Rockstar did to GTA V. People are going to wait around and see how they handle GTA online because they need to do better than last time because last time was ridiculous.
I’m certainly not all that interested in getting it day one and I know a lot of other people aren’t either.
Kelly@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
GTA5 is more than a decade ago,.
The older gemers may remember but there is a whole generation that has spung up since.
Allero@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
Nice of you to assume there are no underage players of GTA V
AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
born between **1995 **and 2007 i.e. born in the period that would have trurned 18 between 2013 and 2015
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
because everyone remembered what Rockstar did to GTA V
Released a fantastic game worth replaying multiple times?
GTA Online =/= GTA V
echodot@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Oh yeah with all that DLC oh wait
Sektor@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’ll wait until it gets free on Epic and proceed not playing it, since i have better things to do with my life.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
controversial take, but I hope they do delay it. Better a good game late than a bad game early. As big as this release is, it HAS to be good.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Yeah, the Witcher 3 release should have taught the game publishers this. CDPR delayed the launch by several months because the game wasn’t ready to ship yet. And the game was phenomenal, and received rave reviews pretty much across the board. Gamers were disappointed about the launch, but basically went “this game will be worth the wait.”
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Funny how CDPR themselves then had a major fuck up with Cyberpunk
Peffse@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
…and they followed it with Cyberpunk 2077’s disastrous launch but ultimate success. So I wouldn’t hold CDPR as a high standard.
mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You realize that rockstar basically invented this strategy right? Almost every release since vice city or San Andreas has been delayed by 6 months to a year to be the best game possible.
Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
While at one point GTA was my favorite series and I was absolutely hyped for GTA V, I’m not for this one. I kind of feel like I’m getting a little old for GTA.
Maybe I’ll change my mind after it releases and there’s a good chance I’ll play it anyway, but right now… meh.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
If your game can’t even complete with a game nobody knows anything about, maybe your game just fucking sucks?
kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I do wanna point out that one of the Horizon games (I believe the second) got pretty screwed by releasing within a week of Elden Ring and didn’t suck. Publishers big and small do need to be careful to not release within a time frame of absolutely massive releases such as Elden Ring and, inevitably, GTA6.
Even if the game doesn’t let you play on release day, I’m willing to bet my kidney that it’ll sell millions of copies and nothing big will be released within a month of it
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
And the first game released closed to Breath of the Wild
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Release timing is always a critical thing to think about, whether you’re talking about games, movies, TV series, or toys.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
“Just make good games” doesn’t really work in the age where we’ve got tens of thousands of game releases per year compared to the age of a few hundred games per year.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Well making bad games isn’t working so well either is it…
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
What’s with half the commenters acting like GTA V isn’t a great game?
Y’all know GTA Online is a different game technically, yeah? The single player of GTA V is still there and even better now that Enhanced is on PC. Rockstar didn’t fuck Up RDR2s single-player Mode so why assume they would on this?
vxx@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Even GTA Online was fantastic. There’s so much to do and the heists and races were a lot of fun.
Shark cards never bothered me because I never got one.
SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
More like the sphincter of GTA 6 am I right?
gcheliotis@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I still haven’t played GTA5. Does it hold up (single-player) all those years later?
C45513@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
gameplay-wise, yeah absolutely. writing-wise, pretty alright, some hits and some misses. kinda like south park.
gcheliotis@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I remember liking GTA4 but getting burned out on its archaic in my view mission design.
WhatSay@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
Who cares when it releases, you know it’s gonna be crap.
deadfatquarterzip@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I’d pay over $100 for GTA6 personally. And microtransactions aren’t out of the question for me either. I don’t have nearly as much time as money these days. Not that I have a lot of money, but I’ll pay it if it makes the experience better
Bristingr@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Comments like this is why the overwhelming majority of video games these days suck.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Yup. "Please bend me over and fuck me for all I’m worth, corpo daddy!* type energy. Some people just can’t get enough of being exploited.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Take your console exclusive bullshit and shove it up your ass. I’ll play it when it’s on PC. And only on PC.
technomad@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
I’ll go a step further and say only when it’s been vetted and discounted on PC.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
This will probably be the last time it ever happens. They’re trying to get people to double dip, and plenty will, but the console install base isn’t what it was when GTA V came out at the end of a generation. Plus we all know full well that the PC version will happen, whereas in yesteryear, we weren’t sure.
Kelly@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
At had a look to check the figures.
From the PlayStation perspective February 2025 estimates put the PS5 at 74.9m, while January 2013 estimates put the PS3 at 77m.
However Xbox is really letting their numbers lag with 28.3m Series consoles sold by September 2024 vs 77.2m 360 consoles by April 2013.
If is we were just talking PlayStation I would say 97% is near enough to make no difference but if we compare both platforms together its only 67% and that is enough to influence strategy. A console only release in 2025 is unlikely to eclipse GTA5’s position as “fastest-selling entertainment product in history”.
biscuit@lemdro.id 4 weeks ago
I just don’t have the patience to wait even more. I have a PS5, so why wouldn’t I play it on release??
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Because I don’t want console level performance when I play it for the first time
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Why would you want to pay $70 for a pay to win game at all?
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
Because of backlogs and eventual price drops /sales
Lightor@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Because I don’t want to play full price for a 1080 upscaled experience at 30fps. If it’s a good experience then it will be worth the wait and that much better when it runs smoother, looks better, and loads faster. Plus it will have most of the bugs worked by then.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s going to be a long wait my friend.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’d rather wait than buy a console for a single game that will barely hit 720p/30.
tordenflesk@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s been the same for… ~25 years, since at least GTA3.
Sunsofold@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
A perennial favorite
boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
K. You do that.
TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
K