Submitted 1 year ago by Cat@ponder.cat to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.commondreams.org/news/google-earth-gulf-of-mexico
I stopped using everything Google. Fascist collaborators won’t get a dime of my money, won’t get my eyeballs on any of their ads, and won’t get a single kilobyte of data from me to sell for profit.
I’ll keep my gmail account open because all it really does is accumulate spam which probably costs them money.
So you stopped using an iPhone too? Because Apple also renamed the gulf in their maps app.
Is Symbian still good these days?
If anyone is still buying Apple products after the whole slowing phones down the thing and the soldered ram thing and that you can’t fix your own phone thing and the oh you can fix your phone if you use our equipment except our equipment is really expensive and actually you can’t get it thing, then there’s something wrong with you.
I also don’t buy Crapple products either, but that’s a personal choice.
Haha, seeing you being downvoted for pointing a fact, tell me everything about the people frequenting this sub.
Obviously apple can’t be fascist, because Tim Apple is gay!
Maybe this is the thing that finally unites the cartels.
It is labeled Gulf of Mexico in Mexico and the name doesn’t mean they own it. This is almost as ridiculous as calling it Gulf of America in the first place
This is what I see in England. Why should I have to see what Trump thinks the Gulf’s name is when it wasn’t renamed here?
Because it’s relevant to the region you’re looking at and I’m pretty sure the UK hasn’t taken a firm/legal stance either way. Also not sure how your comment is supposed to relate to my point? Mexico doesn’t have any more right to tell other countries what to call the Gulf than the US or any other country that’s totally outside of any sane jurisdiction
I’m in tijuana about 10 miles south of the border and it shows as Gulf of America
You’re probably connected to a US access point or have cached map data.
I just do not understand what the big deal is about the name of this fucking thing. I understand trump trying to change it out of nowhere is dumb as fuck, but who cares? why go through the stress? Like just rename it something without a countries name in it. Like the Gulf of Jeff or something. Nobodies butthurt about this shit that don’t matter then.
The leading theory over this seems to be they’re trying to invalidate a bunch of international/national agreements about the gulf of Mexico because now “that doesn’t exist”, or is not about this gulf that has a different name so definitely not the one from agreement. And of course there’s also things about doing everything at once and getting people distracted by these while sneaking in harmful policies.
It’s the very first piece of getting their violent base behind imperialism
I assumed it was the second one, but the first one there also sounds plausible.
Why bother with this? If you want to make a point, pass regulation in Mexico to call E.E.U.U. (US in Mexico) be called Northern Mexico. Then Google is forced to comply on that territory like they claim they do for disputed sections when maps are viewed from that region. It would make for some funny reactions from people visiting Cancun or Puerto Vallarta.
Google is one of many propaganda arms of the US govt. I highly doubt they’d comply with that as it doesn’t fit in with their political agenda.
At that point they would be like twitter in Brazil when they didn’t comply with fines and were blocked at the country level: www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y06vzk3yjo
Es el chapulín colorado
No contaban con mi astucia!
Currently in Mexico, it displays the name your phone region is set to. It still shows Gulf of America on my phone, even when I am on Mexican WiFi.
If we’re going to play that demagogic game, why not make “United States of America” be shown as “United States of North America” to reclaim the continent name back? Companies will comply if it’s an official request.
They are both states united and in north america…
TIL…
The abbreviation E.E.U.U. (often written as EE. UU.) stands for Estados Unidos (United States) in Spanish. This abbreviation follows a grammatical rule in Spanish where doubling the initial letters of each word indicates plurality
So you taught me something today I did not know. Thank you!!
See, I learned this in Spanish class in my American high school, and I don’t think that linguistic fact stuck with me! Thanks
Just let our mexican and Canadian neighbors take over the USA. We’ve proven to be unworthy of making wise choices.
I always wondered why it had double letters. Thank you!
Interestingly (or not) it’s also used in French but only in one case that I’m aware of. Monsieur is abbreviated to M. while messieurs (plural) is MM.
Wait what do they call the European Union then because that’s still EU in Spanish as well.
Save your old maps for when this shit has to be reversed in 4 years unless the voters elect another republican troglodyte.
Hey! What did I ever do to you?
He was into a girl, but you beat her over the head with a club and dragged her back to your cave by her hair before he could make the first move (and beat her over he head with a club and drag her back to his cave by her hair).
You trog-blocked him, dude.
I hope they’re so screwed over and see no real progress come next election because many are being affected, that’s for sure. They’ll reap the shittier half of what they sowed.
Thing is, the next MAGA/QAnon nutter will just tell people that it’s the lib’s fault and they will eat it up and vote for the next unhinged, cleptocratic sociopath. Or maybe by then the US will have gone full Russia and just openly manipulate the elections
I used to be a “let’s find some mutual understanding” but now that they’ve dumped this disaster on the nation I have no sympathy for them. Lost your healthcare? Cuts in services? Sucks to be you…
Your issue is with the fed gov, or what is left of it
if im not mistaken, i think i heard google pulls the data from some external database, which changed the name. google didnt change shit, rather the database they use did.
i could be wrong, but i could have sworn i read that somewhere.
also seems rather petty to me to sue an american company for following US policy changes.
to be clear, i think the gulf of america thing is stupid as hell, and petty on trump’s part.
US policy doesn’t get to dictate how websites operate in non US jurisdiction. The US acting like it gets to bully the rest world into doing whatever it wants is the whole issue at hand. That’s the point: the trump admin wants to use US influence to intimidate, bully, and antagonize other countries by disrespecting their sovereignty.
yes, i agree. but look at the link i posted. they still show it as gulf of mexico if you’re in mexico accessing maps.
my point is more that the US has changed the name of the gulf in america. it is very stupid and meaningless, but it is still officially renamed.
if i look at japan in google maps it says japan, not nipon. why? because that’s what we call it here. i personally think thats dumb too. we should call countries things by their real names. deutschland, bharat, suomi, etc
nevertheless the gulf is called the gulf of america here, no matter how dumb that is.
i seriously doubt google, who is under active investigation for monopoly and being threatened to be broken up, AND, recently lifted its ban on using its ai in weapons, is interested in keeping the old name of the gulf in protest against trump.
again, i think this entire situation is stupid, and would prefer everyone call it the gulf of mexico, but i also don’t think google specifically is doing anything wrong here.
US policy doesn’t get to dictate how websites operate in non US jurisdiction
It shows gulf of Mexico outside of the US
found an article for whoever downvoted me lol.
Gulf of America name change in the U.S. — what you’ll see in Maps
Again, this is one of the dumbest fucking wastes of money I’ve ever seen. Waste of labor from the top down. Waste of resources. This is purely a pride move. It’s the gulf of Mexico and always has been. There are American songs about the gulf of Mexico. It’s history. I have said it before and I’ll say it again, I fucking hate this timeline. This shit is wild. This stuff now days is a mockery of our world.
Look we’re wasting our hard earned tax payer money on crazy fraudulent things like science, education, weather, feeding children, helping the poor, medicine… Dumb things like that. And you’re gonna tell me that changing the name of a body of water to include the greatest God damn country in America is a waste? Next thing you know you’re gonna stand there and tell me that poor people should be able to afford a hospital visit.
Republicans are full of it anyway.
Study after study has shown that a nationalized healthcare system increases a nation’s GDP in the long run. After all, people who are unable to work due to sickness or death that were caused by preventable condition, don’t pay taxes.
For everyone else, not having to pay for private health care gives them more disposable income. Which means they spend it on other things which makes businesses more profitable.
class action please, so we can let our powers combine
Restrict Google from doing business.in the country altogether.
Have phones switch to some open non Google platform
Fuck google, microsoft, apple, they’re all evil at this point
I’m curious - how would they just “have phones switch”, and if that’s actually possible, to which “open non Google platform”?
This is absolutely possible, and how? Depends on lawyers, but technically its absolutely possible
Some android phones can run graphene OS, which is a privacy fork of android if I understand it correctly. Regulation to open bootloaders from manufacturers wanting to sell in the Mexican market would probably be possible. Might be the only good thing to come out of this if countries start regulating openness.
As a mexican I second this thought
FUCK YEAH, DO IT DO IT FUCKING DO IT! Please sue the fuck outta those shitfucks!
I thought they just did that in the US
It’s Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) outside of the USA and just Gulf of Mexico in Mexico. Absolute insanity
Less threatening… More doing.
The U.S. dictatorship are just doing and they’re slowly tearing apart OUR planet.
Bro, are you ok? “US dictayorship”? Trump was elected by the majority of Americans. How is Trump destroying YOUR planet? By changing the name of the gulf? Is this the biggest problem “your” planet has?
Fukin soypeople…
You need actual therapy
He literally said he would be a dictator if elected.
theguardian.com/…/donald-trump-sean-hannity-dicta…
Maybe pay attention rather than hurl silly insults.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Implying people enjoy soy is an insult. Ouch! My feelings.
I never said Dictayorship. Because that’s terrible spelling of the only word you needed to spell correctly to actually criticise me. I also never linked the mislabeling of the Gulf as destroying the planet. He is though…
He proclaimed that he will “OWN” Gaza through means of literal ethnic cleansing. He’s conspiring with Putin to help finalise his invasion of eastern Ukraine. He’s currently purging the Government of minorities and people he deems unloyal. Elon Musk is infiltrating and tearing up government departments as an unelected right-hand entity. His right-wing army are, by algorithm, shifting the western world easily into fascism. I could go on but I’m done with you.
Bottom line… pay attention.
Also… the fact that you put forward Trump was elected by majority of Americans is a straight out lie. Grow up.
Funny thing - I just checked yandex maps (because I’m bored) and it still shows “gulf of mexico” on it.
Who owns Yandex? Why would they need to pledge fealty to the new king?
Don’t forget apple
PLEASE.DO IT
I can see Google (and Apple) quietly paying this fine and changing it for Mexico (and any other jurisdiction that asks).
This is stupid and cowardly of them, but that aside, the implication is 100% “comply, or the US government will make life difficult for Google.” I can see how they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I legitimately don’t understand why the U.S. isn’t the only locality where it shows up as “Gulf of America”.
Set the en-US string to “Gulf of America”. Leave literally every other region’s text string untouched from what it was 6 months ago.
When the next Democrat U.S. President gets sworn in and immediately Executive Orders it back to “Gulf of Mexico”, change the en-US string back to that.
This is all so stupid and melodramatic.
This is all so stupid and melodramatic.
That’s the point!
The new name shows only for USA. In Mexico it’s unchanged, or shown with both names.
Our president is dumb and just wants to look like she’s fighting back.
Since when is the big tech the arbiter of truth? It might come as a surprise to you, but Google and Apple don’t care about your holy war against Trump.
It already does
Nah, they’re willing collaborators.
Step two of the plan you outlined was inverted, but the effect is the same: IIRC it only shows up that way for US users.
This is stupid and cowardly of them,
What else did you expect?
Google are an American company, and the government of the USA has changed the name. What else do people expect them to do?
Besides, it still say Gulf of Mexico if you’re outside the USA.
What else do people expect them to do?
1.- Refuse-
2.- Apply only the part of the name change that’s actually covered by US jurisdiction. The Gulf of Mexico extends noticeably beyond US’s borders.
But hey this is Google we’re talking about.
Besides, it still say Gulf of Mexico if you’re outside the USA.
If I’m a eg.: Colombian, it should be “Gulf of Mexico” “Golfo de México” wherever I stand, not “Gulf of America”.
redsparks2025@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The word “America” is not reserved for the USA alone and belongs to the entire Americas: North America, Central America, South America. As such if they want to rename the Gulf of Mexico then it should be the Gulf of North America of which both the USA and Mexico are a part of and share borders around that body of water.
Furthermore the word “America” isn’t an English word but the German bastardization of an Italian word. Specifically the word “America” was coined by Martin Waldseemüller a German cartographer who named the Americas after Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci who explored the new continents for Spain and Portugal.
Amerigo Vespucci - History Cartoon ~ Innovative History ~ YouTube.
So if this is the big orange blow-fish’s attempt to dis on Mexico then it’s pretty petty much like everything he does to massage his massive ego.
13roses@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The US keeps it to flex on all the other American countries. It’s a display of dominance.
invertedspear@lemm.ee 1 year ago
You wanna know what’s cool about language? It changes over time. So while the origin of a word may mean one thing, it can eventually mean something else as well or even something entirely different. Cool used to just mean temperature, but it eventually also came to refer to the attitude of a person or even how likable they are in common usage. Nimrod was a mythical hunter but thanks to Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd now means a stupid person. Same with “America” referring originally a set of continents. In common usage it has come to mean referencing the United States of America, mostly because people are lazy and is so much easier to say “American” than it is to describe something as “from the United States of America”. You can resist the change all you want, but eventually you sound like some old person that says automobile instead of car since car originally meant an individual portion of a train.
ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Grab em by the vespussi
blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Salud.
fogelmensch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So it’s the gulf of Germany. Got it. Ü
CitizenKong@lemmy.world 1 year ago
VW Golf.