Microsoft really wants Local accounts gone after it erases its guide on how to create them

Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.xda-developers.com/microsoft-really-wants-local-accounts-gone/

Microsoft removes guide on converting Microsoft accounts to Local, pushing for Microsoft sign-ins.

Instructions once available, now missing - likely due to company’s preference for Microsoft accounts.

People may resist switching to Microsoft accounts for privacy reasons, despite company’s stance.

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MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I was able to circumvent all of this on my Windows 10 machine, by installing Linux Mint.

I didn’t even have to throw out my PC for not being good enough for Windows 11.

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- ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Microsoft is unable to track local accounts as thoroughly.
  
  I was finally going to attempt installing Linux Mint only to find out it is not as simple as some say. I know less than nothing about computers and then there are mirrors you have to choose from to download. I have no idea what would be a safe secure mirror.
  
  Then you have to install other software I have no knowledge of to make a bootable drive…I am just not intelligent enough I suppose. I was hoping it was a simple download process.
  
  I am just a tad bit frustrated!
  
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  - GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Dont you worry, mint provides a detailed step by step tutorial on how to do things:
    
    …readthedocs.io/…/latest/
    
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  - cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    All of the mirrors listed on their website are safe. Just pick one close to you. If it downloads too slow, you can try a different mirror. If you know how to use bittorrent, you can use their torrent link. It will typically be the fastest.
    
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  - Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    To answer your first question, ALL of the mirrors are safe. The idea with mirrors is that you choose one that is geographically close to your location (same country, maybe the same region or state) to help reduce lag in downloading the files. Any selection is valid, all of the mirrors will have the same content, but for your location some mirrors may simply be faster or slower than others.
    
    One other thing you might run in to is different types of installers. Some may be a very minimal install which only give you a command line, while others will provide a fully configured desktop. You might also see an option for a “Live” version – that is something you put on a bootable memory stick and you can test out a working version of the operating system without actually changing anything on your computer, but all of your settings will go away when you reboot.
    
    I haven’t used Mint so I can’t provide specific info, however some things that are common to ANY linux desktop – You probably want to start with printer drivers (install CUPS) and some office software (install LibreOffice). For internet access, Firefox and Thunderbird are good choices. LicreOffice, Firefox, and Thunderbird can all also be used on Windows if you want to check them out ahead of time. There are many lists online that can point you to equivalent software, so like if you use Lightroom on windows, you might try Darkroom on linux. basically you just need to make a list of what Windows software you use and then install a similar package in linux.
    
    Yes you will need some time to learn the new operating system and all the new software, very little will be 100% exactly the same, but they are “close enough”. You figured out how to use all these things once before, so you can do it again, and it will definitely be worth the effort.
    
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  - Grippler@feddit.dk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Then you have to install other software I have no knowledge of to make a bootable drive
    
    Eh, this is the same for windows as well, you always need some sort of installation medium to boot and install from regardless of OS.
    
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  - skizzles@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The process is actually simple.
    
    It can be a little daunting at first because it’s new, but don’t let that discourage you. You can mostly ignore the whole mirrors thing, just pick one that is geographically close to you to hopefully get a better download speed. Outside of that, all the mirrors lead to the same file just in a different physical location.
    
    Installing another software to make a bootable drive. You can use Rufus, which has a portable version so there’s no need to install it. I put a link below, there’s one in the downloads list that says portable.
    
    rufus.ie/en/
    
    There are plenty of step by step tutorials out there, however since Linux is very open, a lot of guides may give different advice and knowing what to/not to do can feel confusing. (For instance, if you have an SSD in your computer, you really shouldn’t use a swap partition unless you absolutely have to due to limited RAM.) In most cases though you can get by with the defaults when installing something like mint.
    
    That being said. You could simply make the boot stick and try out the live version of the OS before committing to wiping any of your drives to install the OS. Just know that running the live version from the boot stick will be slow, it may take a little time for things to boot which is normal since you are running the os off of a USB stick.
    
    If you would like some help I could try to give you some guidance. I would just want to know the specs/model of your computer so I can make sure I lead you in the right direction.
    
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  - Forester@yiffit.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Welcome to the Linux community. Most of the software is free and open source. Most of the people who utilize this software are good people who want to help you. However, there are a few people who are total dick heads and who want to fuck you over. So because of that we build security into most of the things that we produce. For instance, if you were confused by why it instructs you to run a checksum after you download the software, that is because the actual authors of the software want to make sure that you downloaded their legitimate software and not some hack bullshit posted by somebody else. A checksum is just comparison of what you have installed to what you’re supposed to have installed and your computer will tell you if things don’t match up.
    
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  - 474D@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It really seems more complicated than it is. I switched to a dual boot of windows and Linux mint about a year ago and it was super smooth, have basically never used the terminal. if you still want to try and have any questions, feel free to ask. Linux is really a nice feeling of being away from MS bullshit.
    
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  - PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Everyone always says Linux is easy these days. Until you start asking how to actually install it.
    
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  - Wet@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Ubuntu used to send you a CD-ROM ready to use free of charge back in the day.
    
    I’ve done this whole process hundreds of times and it’s straightforward now, but the first times where really confusing, I totally understand you.
    
    you basically want to put the installer file in a USB, but you can’t simply copy and paste it because it needs to be “bootable”, that’s why you use a tool like Etcher or similar.
    
    any link in the official Linux Mint page will point you to reputable sources so just pick the first one. the beauty of open source is that it’s not as centralized as a big corporation’s software, you have choices, confusing at first, I know, but it’s worth it once you get past the learning stage
    
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  - Vittelius@feddit.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If you don’t want to do that, then you can buy a bootable drive (for example here: www.shoplinuxonline.com/mint21-usb.html)
    
    Using a different tool to create a bootable drive is just a part of installing any operating system, not just Windows. If you ever need to install windows on a pc that doesn’t have it installed you will see the same process.
    
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  - GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    This is good feedback, the Mint team could definitely streamline things, maybe even with a “help pick”.
    
    Because it’s not immediately apparent which to use (Cinnamon/MATE/Xfce).
    I’m not sure how the resolve the mirror issue, sadly.
    The cost of serving the data directly would be very high, but doing so would avoid scaring people.
    
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  - Mechaguana@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Download any mirror. Accept any prompt. Where you are going, chaos is your friend, and the beautiful electric sizzling is your orchestra.
    
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- the16bitgamer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I too install Linux Mint, though Fedora Silverblue and Kinote is another good alternative.
  
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- NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Wow! Tell me more!
  
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  - MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Linux Mint or (Linux Mint Debian Edition), is one of the most user friendly Linux distributions out there. This is especially so for people used to Windows.
    
    You can run Mint on a bootable USB drive, fire it up, and get a sense of how it feels running on your home setup. I’d highly recommend trying this with a few different Linux distros, to find one that you like.
    
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- DharkStare@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is what I’m going to have to do as well since my computer isn’t compatible with Win11. The only thing I’m worried about is gaming.
  
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  - Kory@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Depends on what you are playing, but gaming in Linux has come a long way. Some games won’t work due to companies not enabling their (rootkit) “anti-cheats” for Linux, but other than that, there’s more and more games that simply work by the day. Check out www.protondb.com to get an idea of what’s working at the moment.
    
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  - CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Steam has built in Linux compatibility that you can turn on for all games and has been working great for me. Lutris and Wine provide other compatibility options.
    
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- PopShark@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Jokes aside I heard Fedora is good for gaming
  
  Yes, seriously lol
  
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  - hanrahan@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Arch is it, u know this :)
    
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nexussapphire@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Anyone who wants to switch to Linux we welcome you with open arms. Ask as many questions as you need. There are no stupid questions just bad answers. (You probably know the type)

If you can’t switch, that’s ok. Alot of us know what it’s like, especially us gamers, Nvidia card owners, and recovering adobe-holics. Life is tougher but a whole lot more rewarding. I moved from windows/Macos and I wouldn’t give it up for anything.

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- lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m actually gaming on nvidia! Didn’t take any tinkering either. I got the Nvidia version of Nobara, which many steam games “just work” on.
  
  That’s not to say I didn’t start tinkering anyway, but new games I install and just run work fine.
  
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  - nexussapphire@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s amazing how fast we got here though isn’t it. There were a ton of talented people, most of them working without pay just to make it happen.
    
    I love the sense of community from something like that even if all I could do is be a beta tester, request potential improvements, and donate to my favorite projects.
    
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- LoganNineFingers@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is the nicest way someone’s put it. I’ve tried to switch to Linux three or four times but until there is a distro that makes it plug and play like Windows or mac its going to be a tough sell. I consider myself tech savvy enough (I can google things, and for goodness sake at the bare minimum I can cut and paste into the terminal) but the barrier for getting Linux to work is too high right now for a very large part of the population.
  
  I have W10 computer running the arrs and my plex server that I’m going to have to figure out as I can’t get W11 on it.
  
  I want to do it so bad!.. but I think I’ll probably just end up getting a new, used computer that can run W11
  
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  - ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    the barrier for getting Linux to work is too high right now for a very large part of the population
    
    My elderly (late 80s) parents have Windows on their laptops and it would be impossible for them to use it without my regular intervention. I might as well take the plunge and set them up with Linux.
    
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  - BobGnarley@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Definitely give Linux Mint a shot!
    
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  - J4g2F@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Even if something like proxmox or a Debian install with docker is more customizable. It’s a steep learning curve.
    
    But isn’t something like truenas scale a option? I run Emby(as my media Server) and the arr’s on it. All the apps are already in the “software store” including plex. And setup of the arr’s is just the same as normal. All installs are basically automatic.
    
    I easy passthrough my intel gpu in the config page on the webportaal, but don’t how easy it is for Nvidia or amd. Especially with Nvidia due to drivers. But maybe someone here knows?
    
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  - Artaca@lemdro.id ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Also stuck on Windows but for specific software (Adobe & Revit). Zorin has looked like a promising distro for a little while now, at least coming from Windows.
    
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  - Zink@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Have you tried Linux Mint yet?
    
    I recently installed it on a Dell laptop (work) to dual boot, and it seemed pretty much as simple as installing windows.
    
    I’m a daily Linux user and had been using other distros in VMs, but I still wanted to try it.
    
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  - Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Isn‘t it very easy to spin up a Debian with Docker installed and just pull those Docker container yml files straight from freedesktop.org using docker compose? (Portainer would be a webGUI for the containers)
    
    Good luck! 😉 I think there is nearly no server task where windows is more easy than Linux 🤔 well, except proprietary ActiveDirectory/EntraID, of course.
    
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- littlecolt@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I need a PC that runs with no monitor and gets interfaced with through remote desktop only. I just installed Linux on that machine. It currently must have a keyboard and monitor because if it gets rebooted, it comes to the login screen. The login screen cannot be bright up via remote desktop (RDP through Remmina). I also have so far been unable to find a way to force it to automatically sign in “passwordless” like it used to do with Windows.
  
  This box runs Plex as well as whatever game server I want to run for friends and I at the moment. (Currently Minecraft, which is having trouble since th switchover with server lag, but that is far less important than being able to reboot the screenless server box and have it work with no further input )
  
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  - sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Configuring automatic login shouldn’t be difficult. Here are instructions on Ubuntu (should work on any GNOME system), and here’s how to do it with pretty much any KDE system. This is a feature of desktop managers (like gdm or sddm), not desktop environments (like GNOME or KDE), so if neither works for you, you’re probably using a different one. If that’s the case, reply with your distro and as much info as you can provide.
    
    That said, what exactly is the problem you’re trying to solve? It’s usually a lot easier to login remotely using SSH instead of remote desktop, and then use console commands to do whatever you need. To login with SSH:
    
    ssh <user>@<IP address>
    
    So if your username is tux and your IP is 1.2.3.4:
    
    ssh tux@1.2.3.4
    
    And then if you want to reboot:
    
    sudo reboot
    
    And if you want to shutdown:
    
    sudo shutdown -h now
    
    I use an app on my phone to login, so I can get it done while sitting on the toilet in like 10s (I use it to unlock my computer so my kids can use it). If you’re accessing from your computer and just need to run a single command, provide it after the command in quotes (note, sudo commands won’t prompt for a password and will just fail).
    
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  - Limonene@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I have three ideas: First, you could switch the desktop environment to one of the ones that has a GUI settings tool to set passwordless automatic sign in. I think Gnome 3 on Ubuntu, and Mate Desktop on Linux Mint have that feature. There are probably others.
    
    Second, you could switch your display manager to “nodm”. The display manager is the thing that runs the X server or Wayland, and it starts the greeter (the greeter is the program that shows the login screen). nodm is a special display manager that doesn’t use a greeter or ask for a password. It immediately starts the session using the username and desktop environment specified in its configuration file.
    
    I use nodm for my HTPC and it works very well. The only downside is that you have to edit its configuration file, /etc/default/nodm , using a text editor. I’m not aware of any GUI configuration tool for it. However, it’s pretty easy to configure.
    
    Third, you could abandon all display managers, and start the session manually, either from a shell script, or over SSH. This is a little more complex. You will probably want to get comfortable with SSH before trying this (SSH is the command-line analog of remote desktop).
    
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  - nexussapphire@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I think the first thing is actually recommend is enabling a daemon that launches Plex at boot without login. sudo systemctl enable plexmediaserver For something like a Minecraft server I’d recommend reading up on the setup process. (It’s a fair bit to summarize)
    
    If the application doesn’t come with a systemd service I’d recommend making a cron. They’re scary looking but actually pretty easy to use, I use it for automating maintenance on my server.
    
    It may feel counter intuitive but Linux servers don’t really need a desktop to manage them so most the tools don’t really come with graphical apps. If you want an interface to check on things I’d recommend installing and using cockpit web based graphical interface.
    
    If you want to do it proper on a systemd system make a systemd.service it’s not as easy to learn but you get extra tools to manage it.
    
    I’ve heard there’s a lot of work that has been done in kde and gnome to get rdp (remote desktop protocol) with remote login.
    
    I hope this helps! If not, almost everything can be done through the terminal and ssh(secure shell) makes that process really easy. I installed and setup my Linux laptop and my server that way.
    
    If you just want to transfer files there is sshfs(secure shell file system) and the ability to go to your file browser and type in an sftp(secure file transfer protocol) address. In kde dolphin for example you select network and type in the bar sftp://(IP address or hostname)@(user):(working directory). Make sure you have sshfs installed on both machines and sshd enabled on at least the system you want to access.
    
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  - dutchkimble@lemy.lol ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    What about SSHing into it?
    
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  - MehBlah@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I have a pi5 at work (upgraded this year) that I use to administer my work network from home. I use ubutnu mate with xrdp for the desktop. Works great, even the sound works. No monitor and even if you hooked one up it would just show a login prompt.
    
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  - tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah I also haven’t found a good alternative for a windows management host for RDP. I use my last remaining windows box as an “admin host” and the Linux alternative to this would be vnc or xrdp, both of which have their issues (no dynamic resize, clipboard issues, session restore issues)… I’ve also tried x2go recently which is closer but still not as slick/simple as a windows RDP session.
    
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  - amorangi@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Get a virtual hdmi dummy plug. A very cheap and easy fix. Because the machine now thinks a screen is attached it will create a desktop environment you can remote in to.
    
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- Cignul9@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I literally just went through an entire mental exercise of what do I “need” to run, and got stuck hard with my audio interface and DAW software. Cubase (by Steinberg) and IK Multimedia just do not provide support at all.
  
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  - J4g2F@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I use ardour as DAW, but only for recording on Linux. It’s also available for macOS and windows. So you can check if it fits your work flow.
    
    I mostly only use Linux, but sometimes you just need a program with out support. In my case it’s sometimes qlab, Linux show player is great(and I have used it for many shows). But it’s not feature compatibel with qlab
    
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- Cheskaz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is the first comment about switching to Linux that makes me feel positively about the idea
  
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- Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  People will switch once developers do. So far no luck on the music industry
  
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- SendMePhotos@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I asked a legit Linux question in Rizon - Linux and got banned.
  
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- Rekorse@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Both my PCs have nvidia cards, a 3080ti and a 970, and not run just fine with games and Linux. I dont quite understand the hate for nvidia cards. AMD cards must poop glitter or something too.
  
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- PopShark@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m a recovering Adobe-holic because their software is good at processing my drone photo DNG files
  
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- VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  ArchWiki makes it so much easier these days.
  
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- SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  There are no stupid questions just bad answers.
  
  I prefer saying:
  There’s no stupid questions, just stupid answers once in awhile.
  
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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
What’s crazy is the cybersecurity teams at big corporations actually hate this because its putting half their security in Microsofts hands.

Corporations hate this shit too because they want to be using their internal, domain-controller users, not Microsoft accounts that pass a ton of trade secrets to Microsoft.

So Microsoft is literally killing core competencies not just for end-users, but for businesses, too.

This will convince a lot of businesses the switch to an all Linux internal domain to be worth it, imho.

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- mark3748@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What’s even crazier is that corporate customers don’t actually deal with this in any way! There’s no Microsoft account required on an Active Directory controlled PC.
  
  Source: I am big corporate IT. Oh, and my personal AD deployment, outside of work
  
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- BassTurd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  As cool as it would be to see a big shift to Linux, I think you underestimate how deeply entrenched companies are with Microsoft, so unwilling to change, the lack of support for proprietary software, and probably most importantly, the lack of IT support to manage a Linux environment.
  
  I’ve been full Arch since December in my personal stuff and have been a Sys Admin+ for 9+ years. I would not say I currently have the skills to effectively administer a Linux environment. I could get there, and there is a lot of overlapping knowledge, like the network stack didn’t change, but I don’t think I’m an outlier.
  
  I recently switched from being the sole IT guy at a small/medium company so a place with about 2k employees. I have maybe met a couple of people within the company IT that I think could make the switch relatively well, and 70% of others that just don’t got it.
  
  Long term it would probably be fine, but that’s not how companies work in most cases. I just don’t think most places are willing to bite the bullet now to benefit later.
  
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- cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Are they Microsoft like suicidal or something? They are absolute madmen
  
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- bizarroland@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I really wish it would, but the people that are the decision makers at businesses simply do not care what Microsoft does as long as it doesn't impact their bottom line. Yes it's incredibly user hostile. Yes it's an administrative nightmare for the IT people, but for the suits that write the checks? It's just the cost of doing business and they literally could not give a fuck if you paid them.
  
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- MiltownClowns@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Its crazy their doing this while their CEO is being dragged on front of congress for their massive security breaches. Almost as if a monopoly is a bad.
  
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Assman@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Back in my day you could turn on the computer and operate it without anyone knowing. Our “internet connection” was demonic screeching from hell on the telephone and you didn’t need it to play solitaire.

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- A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I miss those early days.
  
  Computers were weird magic boxes
  
  Games were just graphically impressive enough to lose yourself in, while not needing a super computer to run them.
  
  The internet was a curiousity for nerds and not a corprotized information hoover adpocalypse hellscape for the exploitation of the masses.
  
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- vingetcxly@thelemmy.club ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Linux exists. Made for you, not money. For Microsoft user experience is just a side effect in getting profit. It can well be replaced with marketing, as Microsoft has demonstrated.
  
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- nexussapphire@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Microsoft world have done it back then if internet was more prevalent and computers were just a little faster.
  
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Pechente@feddit.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Recently set up my Win 11 gaming pc and despite being tech savvy, I couldn’t get around the requirement without googling. I needed to run a fucking command in order for the Windows installer to let me create an offline account. That’s just so scammy. Imagine paying money for Windows.

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- homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  When you realize that micro$quash has never not been incredibly scammy and skeezy from the get-go, the modern business landscape makes more sense.
  
  Also, every day is a good day to leave microsoft behind forever.
  
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- DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Remove Ethernet or internet. They cannot force you to sign in if you literally can’t. Anybody who doesn’t want to and yes they recently removed it from the system so fuck windows and Microsoft for continuously being the shittiest and most popular OS but this is impossible to circumvent unless they gave you a local database of every account.
  
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- Gerudo@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Just bought a ROG Ally. It’s my first forced use of 11 and the device is great, however Windows has never been more of a pain in the ass.
  
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- Boiglenoight@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  “Imagine people paying for Windows.” You had me up to the point that you explained why Microsoft might want to get rid of local accounts. You’re doing the thing that gives executives the idea of forcing online connectivity.
  
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- selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’ll just wait until Windows 10 reaches EOL. My expectative is that, by then, someone has created an ISO with the option of offline accounts enabled or Microsoft just gave up with this nonsense. IrIf not, I have Nobara already set up in dual boot. Proton is getting better and better by the day, anyway.
  
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JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Honest question: What does Microsoft expect people with no Internet access to do?

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- Grippler@feddit.dk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They’re poor…fuck 'em, who needs them!?
  
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- empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  People with no internet access obviously don’t exist.
  
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sunzu@kbin.run ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
At this point, the quicker people switch, the easier it will be for them.

You can learn linux today or you going to learn it next year. Choice is yours.

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UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
UpperBroccoli really wants Microsoft gone after it pisses him off everyday for years

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Iloveyurianime@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Can someone ELI5 why the us goverment is doing nothing against these anti consumer practises

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shortwavesurfer@monero.town ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Switch to Linux where all accounts are local accounts.

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kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The Microsoft cycle:

Microsoft does thing nobody likes -> people complain -> some people threaten to switch to Linux -> a few of those people do but most people don’t -> They make some excuse and claim that once Linux reaches some arbitrary milestone they’ll switch (Adobe support, better game support, better software support, etc) -> most of those people forget (they’re a minority, the vast majority of people never cared) -> Microsoft notices and they became even more emboldened to make their products worse -> repeat

If you want change then you need to break the cycle

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Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I just want Microsoft gone.

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Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Another reason to use Linux

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ppb1701@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
the better to farm your information to advertise too you and try to tie you in to more subscriptions.

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xenomor@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I had very modest needs for Windows. It was not my primary computing device, but there was one application that I ran on an older laptop all the time. All the recent drama pushed me to investigate a bit and I learned that the app is also on Linux. I was able to wipe and install Linux Mint easily despite not really knowing much about either OS. There are a lot of guides on youtube about the process that helped make it easy. Laptop is running well so far. I’m also using this as as a test to see if I can replace much of my Apple stuff with Linux as those devices start to age out. Thanks for the little push Microsoft.

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cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
In Soviet Russia: Microsoft account disappear you!

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bufalo1973@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The triumphant return of the NETWORK COMPUTER!!! On your screen… sorry, OUR screen if you install or upgrade to Win-dows 11.

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Pacmanlives@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Can’t you just you powershell and create a local user that way???

learn.microsoft.com/en-us/…/new-localuser?view=po…

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numanair@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I just want a consistent name for my home dir

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InvaderDJ@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It also feels like their insistence is doing nothing but hurting them. The average consumer who doesn’t know the difference between a local account and a Microsoft account won’t know or care about MS doing this.

But the users who do have a preference and do want a local account are just going to be irritated at it and give them bad press. They’ll eventually figure out how to make a local account anyway and it may be the push they need to migrate off of Windows.

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nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
three trillion dollars

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Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Here’s an updated way to bypass it. This Youtuber is a little cheerful-cheesy, but the info is good.

youtu.be/Mn9bhG4nWeI?si=Rw-q1HfDmsisLy30

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baronvonj@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
the stupid thing is I still have my children and I adding our MS accounts after creating the local accounts, because I like setting the parental limits once for all the computers. I just can’t stand the stupid email-based usernames it creates when signing into the MS account during account creation.

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