Deviantart died a very very long time ago. the creature currently wearing it's skin can fuck off and die for all I or any other actual artist cares.
DeviantArt’s Downfall Is Devastating, Depressing, and Dumb
Submitted 5 months ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to technology@lemmy.world
https://slate.com/technology/2024/05/deviantart-what-happened-ai-decline-lawsuit-stability.html
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metaStatic@kbin.social 5 months ago
Anon518@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
What do you use instead?
Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I was shocked to see this post. I honestly thought it was dead after 2015.
Anamana@feddit.de 5 months ago
All these news pieces about A.I. killed ancient company xyz
MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Most serious artists have switched to using ArtStation and/or Instagram a long time ago, not because of AI, but because of the weird stuff on DeviantArt.
This article also misrepresented Andersen v. Stability AI, you can read the judge’s opinion here:
…bakerlaw.com/…/ECF-117-Order-on-Motion-to-Dismis…
But basically, the judge’s opinion was scathing and dismissed all but one of the plaintiffs’ claims.
There is a very good reason you can’t copyright artistic styles.
Mango@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The weird stuff on deviant art is still better than people who direct link PDF files at law firm websites.
Sabata11792@kbin.social 5 months ago
Thinly veiled and successful porn site blocks porn. Everyone leaves. They killed themselves for money.
The lifers clinging to the site blame AI because the bots are the only thing keeping the lights on. All the humans left with the porn.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 months ago
My missus used to post drawings on there about 10-15 years ago.
Think all the actual art is on Twitter these days (although some have gone to Mastodon).
Just seems a bit of a niche social network when bigger ones exist with bigger audiences and more chance of people actually wanting something drawn. Even if it’s mostly really weird smut.
Toribor@corndog.social 5 months ago
Where will I get my pregnant Sonic fix now?
Sylvartas@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’d argue all the humans left when artstation became big. All my artists friends used to upload their (non porn)work to deviantart before artstation was popular. But banning the porn was the first nail in the coffin for sure.
Sabata11792@kbin.social 5 months ago
I haven't head of art station till now. What's the difference from diviant art? Seems like its a censored platform as well from 30 seconds of googling.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Sabata11792@kbin.social 5 months ago
Who decides if that's porn or not? The rule says no porn and I can only imagine she has less on for the account only images.
As a hypothetical potential user, I see "no porn" from a site I seen a lot of porn on in the past. The first thing I think is a big corpo bough them and milked it dry. Even if it's not enforced the perception is "we caved to censorship for profit over letting our users do whatever doesn't break the law". They killed trust.
SaltySalamander@fedia.io 5 months ago
"sexy" is not automatically porn.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 months ago
When did DA ever allow porn?
Sabata11792@kbin.social 5 months ago
Wasn't it years ago? I'm starting to think I'm just making a big dumb now.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Thinly veiled and successful porn site
All I ever came to DA for is wallpapers.
coriza@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It is sad that so much of technological advancement is not freeing people from labor has the opposite effect, making people fight to pay rent and necessities everyday and never having free time to live. There is so much to like in these new Ai technologies but they being wielded by capitalists to extract a little more money. I highly doubt that visual arts is a big expensive in movies and films since usually half the budget is marketing and another big chuck to secure big stars to the project.
In any case everyone already lost and the Internet is a little bit worst. Reading about this class actions I think no good will come out of it, or the draconian copyright laws will be even worst and small artists will already have lost to the prior models using their content or a “fair use” exception will be made but only for big companies AI and not help small artists and content creators that battle with DMCA abuse taking down fair use vídeos from YouTube and content from over the net anyway.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Technological advancement, thus power, is sometimes used against other people to reduce their power.
We live in a society.
I think what we still have is a lot. Saying it’s all dead is a huge exaggeration.
I’ve just installed Encarta 98 for nostalgic feelings, and found it quite lacking (as in being false and on the side of the criminal and not his victim) on a few points. Wikipedia is better on those.
We are also taking some things for given.
RandomGuy79@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There should always be a home for you degenerates to enjoy whatever category of poorly drawn unicorn porn one likes
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Didn’t forget Sonic inflation comics
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’m more of a Pegasus guy myself.
IWTCIRD
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 months ago
wow I had forgotten about this website for such a long time. Like maybe 15-20 years ago it was a great resource for fantasy themed drawings and inspiration for rpg games
StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
That’s a site I haven’t heard of in a while.
LucidNightmare@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ah, man. I remember when I went to this site to get themes for windows cursor, windows themes, and even skins for some of the programs I liked at the time. They went downhill quite some time ago, maybe around 2014 or 2015, as I stopped using that site as much because of the increase in pornographic stuff that showed on the front page. It will be missed though, either way.
Plopp@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Coincidentally, I remember starting using that site in 2014 or 2015.
LucidNightmare@lemmy.world 5 months ago
How was it? What was your use-case for it? The software/theme part of the website started to get drowned out by furry stuff, and the occasional live nude models or just scantily dressed models, which is fine but not what I went there for.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I stopped using the site in 2014. Used to post regularly but got sick of all the porn. I stopped posting art online for a long time. Then I stopped drawing for a while. Now I’m trying to get back into it. Posted on the artshare community a while back and the feedback was nice.
DFWSAM@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s obvious, generative AI could not exist without human work on which to train and rather than ask, or pay, for access to it, tech companies (and the assholes running them) feel free to appropriate it as they see fit.
Fuck them running.
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
The coolest AI work these days is open source, and developed by enthusiastic communities across the world.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 months ago
It fell ages ago, all the artists I follow went to FurAffinity ages ago.
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 5 months ago
I didn’t really move to another platform when I stopped using deviantart a few years ago, I just started sharing my work with small circles and local galleries instead.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Worse still, DeviantArt showed little desire to engage with these concerns
Well. There it tis.
stoy@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Welp, I had no idea about this, time to delete my gallery I have had for 20 years.
Stopped using it last year as it was just so slow.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Is there really a point? It’s likely already been scraped into the data pool
stoy@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Sure, I may be too late now, but removing real content makes their platform less valuable overall.
Stern@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Both disappointing and expected.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Angelo ran da into the ground long before this. Not gonna lie, I’m not surprised. Not even disappointed.
sfantu@lemmy.world 5 months ago
To take it from the publishing industry, A.I. is already decimating once-common job prospects. An April report from the Society of Authors found that 26 percent of the illustrators surveyed “have already lost work due to generative A.I.” and about 37 percent of illustrators “say the income from their work has decreased in value because of generative A.I.”
I have to say … I LOVE THIS !
Adapt or else …
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Deviant is probably having the best time of its existance thanks to generative models.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Could still be the antithesis to AI bullshit, but don’t think there’s an easy way to tell now.
haywire7@lemmy.world 5 months ago
AI generated content is great and all but it drowns out everything else on there. Anyone can type a prompt and generate a great looking image with a couple of attempts these days it seems.
The people spending days, weeks, months and more on a piece can’t keep up.
hellothere@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
It’s almost like low quality mechanisation is something that should be resisted. I wonder where I’ve heard that before…
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
You heard it from traditional artists when the camera was invented
Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
― Charles Baudelaire, On Photography, from The Salon of 1859
TheBat@lemmy.world 5 months ago
yOuRe GaTeKePiNg!!!
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I don’t know for what product that’d be desirable. What did you have in mind?
lurch@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
there’s some stuff image generating AI just can’t do yet. it just can’t understand some things. a big problem seems to be referring to the picture itself, like position or its border. another problem is combining things that usually don’t belong together, like a skin of sky. those are things a human artist/designer does with ease.
tal@lemmy.today 5 months ago
There’s a lot.
Some of it doesn’t matter for certain things. And some of it you can work around. But try creating something like a graphic novel with Stable Diffusion, and you’re going to quickly run into difficulties. You probably want to display a consistent character from different angles – that’s pretty important. That’s not something that a fundamentally 2D-based generative AI can do well.
anlumo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It‘s even hard to impossible to generate the image of a person doing a handstand. All models assume a rightside-up person.
100@fedia.io 5 months ago
think of an episode of any animated series with countless handmade backgrounds, good luck generating those with any sort of consistency or accuracy and you will be calling for an artist who can actually take instructions and iterate
admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 5 months ago
Almost 10 years old now, more relevant than ever: Humans need not apply.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I’m a bit surprised about how quickly I got tired of seeing AI content (mostly porn and non-nudes) Somehow it all just looks the same. You’d think that being AI generated would give you infinite variety but apparently not.
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
The same way people using shovels can’t keep up with an excavator.
Technology changes the world. This is nothing new.
Soundhole@lemm.ee 5 months ago
People spending that much time one their work can and should create things in meat space.