Discord users are cancelling their Nitro after new mobile layout update::undefined
Personally, I think the update is a genuine improvement. Everything is more intuitive, and labels for the UI was very much needed.
Discord users are cancelling their Nitro after new mobile layout update
Submitted 11 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
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rockSlayer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Yeah, same. I didn’t even touch the friends tab at all, so having it as DMs works better for my purposes. But Discord is trying to be the app for so many purposes I’m not surprised people are upset by a major UI change and having it be different to the desktop layout.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 11 months ago
works better for my purposes
For yours, not others. That’s kind of the crux of the issue with most UI changes nowadays. They’re made for the “average user” and the average user has the most basic needs, utilizes few advanced options, and takes advantage of the least functions. And when your primary goal developing software is to serve that audience, you will end up inevitably prioritizing aesthetic over functionality. And every time you do that, your pissing off your power users a little more.
As with most issues with UI changes, they could be solved by giving the user options to customize their experience a bit, but the idea of customizable UI is verboten nowadays.
Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I dislike a couple things – swipe to reply in general, hiding the server member list within search, and the way they laid out the new tab that combined DMs and friends list. Making the friends list horizontal profile pictures to scroll through is just annoying. Other than that it’s fine.
NoisyFlake@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Yeah, it finally feels like a mobile app that you can use without having to know the layout of the desktop version first. A friend of mine that never used the desktop app really struggled with basic tasks on the old mobile app.
catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Yes, it finally makes some goddamn sense. It’s still awful, but I find it genuinely easier to find the things I want.
marx2k@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Every time I open discord it just generates popups about features.
Its fucking annoying.
RealFknNito@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Making a separate button for patch notes like everyone else would take too long.
Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 11 months ago
Imagine paying for Discord in the first place
mememuseum@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t pay for Nitro but I don’t have a problem for people that do. Servers aren’t free so it’s that or ads.
LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I swear Lemmy is against paying for anything. So many freeloaders in this world.
Serinus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I pay when it’s half off, mostly for streaming quality. Their full price is kind of insane.
sneezymrmilo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t really get this take. If you don’t like Discord Nitro, simply don’t buy it. If you enjoy the features Nitro adds and don’t mind paying the monthly fee, then buy it. I don’t really understand what shaming people who pay for Nitro accomplishes.
FrostKing@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Odd, I was pretty happy when I got the update. I always thought it was odd that servers and PMs were mixed somewhat in the UI, and hard to distinguish between.
People just don’t like things being different than they were ig.
Or is there another change I didn’t notice that had people bothered?
Zyrxil@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t dislike all the changes but the removal of the left swipe gesture to access current channel information and pinned message is a huge negative change to me.
CrabLord@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I agree, this throws me off more than anything else with the changes.
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh OK, I guess this seals it, I don’t have whatever new version people are complaining about, left swipe still works for me. I was reading through the posts trying to figured out what changed, and none of it sounded familiar. I got a discord patch yesterday, but maybe the fold phones don’t have the same version as bar phones do.
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Before it was better because all of the messages were in one place.
I mostly use discord for dms and now for some reason I have to switch to a different tab to access them, it’s annoying and unnecessary.
App is also slower now.
Legge@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The two big problems for me are (1) increased slowness and lag, and (2) phantom notifications (a red 10 dot in the bottom notifications but I click in and see that it’s empty)
FrostKing@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Having used it a bit more, I can definitely agree on the lag. Crazy bad.
BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev 11 months ago
Been a while since I used the new thing, immediately hated it. All on mobile.
First of a, the bottom scroll thing on my phone to select a server or whatever it was just ain’t it. I didn’t use it much, but it seemed extremely annoying to move between dm and servers, especially if they weren’t the top ones. You can get lists and such by swiping.
Second was that server channels turned into a huge mess. Showing the last message makes absolutely no sense on any server I use. Especially on bigger game server like destiny group finding one’s already long lists turned into miles long lists. Absolutely unusable. I need things compact and clean personally, having the channels big and wide wastes so much space, and again long lists.
Being in a server hides any notifications and dms too.
Everything that was close at hand before is now far away. And that sucks for me.
AzureRT@reddthat.com 11 months ago
“PMs and servers were hard to distinguish with”
Uh, no they weren’t.
GTG3000@programming.dev 11 months ago
I’m not sure anyone is complaining specifically about the DM button, that’s the one change that’s probably good? Like it doesn’t do much for me, and I wouldn’t care if they didn’t also change how the DM window works. Or how the swiping works in the server.
jadedwench@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wait, the new UI I got yesterday? With the servers and messages finally finally separated? I like it personally. I struggle to find my DMs on the desktop app vs servers and never found it intuitive. I am ok with an extra tap that was going to
Armand1@lemmy.world 11 months ago
One problem I have with it is that it’s harder than ever to get to the members list. You have to click a thing at the top of the screen rather than just swiping from the right.
Otherwise I’m mostly happy.
jadedwench@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have no idea how we got to it before at I mostly use smaller channels and friends, but I just tapped on the # channel-banner-name at the top, without having to think about it too hard. I have never seen this screen until now, but having separate tabs for all the shared links, media, pins, and members is something I wish more apps did.
I hope they can find a happy middle ground for users, or give users enough customization options where they can configure what works for them. I hate that only 3rd party apps for things like Reddit and Lemmy actually give you control over your interface. Is it too much to ask to have customization options like the old days? 😥
laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Wait, really? It’s not even that big a change! That’s a hell of a thing to cut and run for
kattenluik@feddit.nl 11 months ago
It’s quite a massive change and significantly impacts usability in a lot of cases and it also makes Discord no different from any other app.
If they had just kept the server list in the direct messages view this would’ve been way less worse.
locuester@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
I’m so confused. When I got this unexpected change I was so excited. This is exactly what’s been wrong with the UX in that app. It’s so much clearer now
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 11 months ago
it also makes Discord no different from any other app.
Seems to be the consistent theme now. Legitimately, no app seems to want to have its own visual identity anymore, it’s all the same shit, in white or black. It’s depressingly lifeless and Corporate Memphis levels of inauthentic.
chitak166@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I just looked at the change, fully-prepared to feel outraged and claim they’re changing things just to change them.
Nah. It’s a fantastic, logical change imo.
ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 months ago
Discord was never usable for almost all handicaps
Source I work with blind developers
vox@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
puttin buttons at the top is a terrible ux for mobile apps
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Wait what change are we talking about? I don’t see any huge changes on iOS.
laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Outside of a minor appearance change, they moved direct messages out of the server list and into their own space (never understood why they did it that way before), and added a way to quickly reply to a message at the expense of having to tap the channel name to see the member list instead of swiping… I’m missing how this is a massive change here and how it significantly impacts usability…
aaaa@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You should have seen how mad people were over the time Discord slightly changed the shade of the icon
vox@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
discord users are snowflakes
RealFknNito@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sure thing grandpa, let’s get you to bed. Joe Biden can’t hurt you there.
Octopus1348@lemy.lol 11 months ago
They’ve just seen this as an excuse to stop paying Nitro.
laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
They could just stop anytime, they don’t have to justify it
the_q@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Discord offers subscriptions and micro transactions in a chat app. This is the future of everything thanks to people going “oh it’s not so bad”.
tja@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I mean, they have to make some money some way…
the_q@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And who determines how much money they need? Some c-suite asshole who wants a 3rd mansion?
Dippy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I like nitro for the audio and stream quality benefits. It’s not much money and makes the experience with friends better.
Doesn’t seem much different than streaming services asking for more for 4k streaming.
the_q@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Then they ask for a little more… Then a little more… This is why Netflix is $20/mo now because not enough people have the will to do without. These companies make you feel as if you’re missing out or that you can’t survive without their services, and when that happens they own you.
vox@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
except stream quality is controlled client side.
you don’t need nitro for streaming at any quality you want to, just any client modkofe@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have shit internet so the audio and stream quality does matter to me - its the universal emojis and sound board that keeps me paying. I’m not ashamed
simple@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Considering how much is free and how much of a better experience it is compared to competitors, yeah, it really is not so bad.
vox@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
“oh, at least there are no ads”
except they’re shoving microtransaction ads literally everywhere.
Profile decoration shop ads everywhere.
There’s even a dedicated nitro gift button on the message bar.dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
What discord client are you using? Mine never hits me up for MTX’s. I know nitro is there, but there’s no intrusive pop ups.
anon232@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Imagine getting peer pressured because of emojis. Seriously if you dont want to shitpost with emojis, you’re not missing anything.
ramsgrl909@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I always initially hate UI changes, will make my decision in a few days if I like it
0xD@infosec.pub 11 months ago
Look at you with your emotional maturity and introspection.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh look, we’ve finally hit the “this place is full of morons except me and the people who think like me” point. I guess we’re on our way to being a reddit alternative after all.
Vytle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is honestly just people hating it because its different? There is no feature removal, its just built differently. Also i find it disgusting that THIS is why people are boycotting nitro. Imagine being comfortable supporting probably the largest service hosting CSAM (and not doing much about it) but drawing the line at it taking an extra tap to view server members.
Sup3rlativ3@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I mean they’ve broken the app for me. After about 15 minutes the message window won’t refresh regardless if I change channels or servers. Notifications take me nowhere so I need to go find the event myself. I’m only a light user so I’m sure there is more. It’s not just because it’s different, I actually like the new UI better.
ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 11 months ago
CSAM?
misophist@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“Child Sexual Assault Material”. An alternate name for “Child Porn” (CP).
corvidae@leminal.space 11 months ago
although i use a different mobile client that’s built on older code (aliucord for those curious!), i still tried out the new update and it isn’t terrible imo. what i mainly don’t like is the server list and dms being completely seperate now, how spaced out things are, the swipe to reply feature, the members + pinned messages list being moved, how messages don’t have a smooth little transition/animation when you send them. there are some things i like, like how in the members/pinned messages list theres a media and links tab now… and other things i don’t remember right now lol, but the cons outweigh the pros for me… back to aliucord i go :p
gaael@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Have they stopped banning accounts that use 3rd party clients ?
corvidae@leminal.space 11 months ago
i haven’t noticed any activity on my end, but i think it might be cus im only active on like a handful of servers. im thinking the more active you are in more places, or the more active you are in the community, the more likely they’ll notice you and stuff, yk? im thinking that’s why even though i use 3rd party clients on both pc and mobile, they haven’t done anything to my account
laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
I actually hadn’t noticed the tabs, I really like that
ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The UI changes are horrible. They make it so it takes more taps to get to places. Idk who is in charge of that but they need to reevaluate things. Also paying for discord is hilarious. But people unsubscribing is the only way they might roll back.
catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
It’s always been a mess. This is imo at least a bit better. Crazy that a company of this size does UI so horribly.
Prethoryn@lemmy.world 11 months ago
One Google search on Dextero and I will pass one using it as a source of information.
dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
People pay for nitro?
RealFknNito@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah I like being able to shitpost with meme emojis from other servers and keep the one platform me and my freeloading friends use, alive. I ain’t going back to Skype and god bless the souls on Teamspeak.
chitak166@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You could always switch to Matrix.
Don’t fool yourself into thinking that you paying for nitro is adding to discord’s longevity.
DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Mumble, mumble.
wahming@monyet.cc 11 months ago
I’ll never understand why companies try to force major changes without giving users the chance to opt out, at least for a while.
owlboy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
huh, I opted into the new layout months ago. I got use to it quickly.
ademir@lemmy.eco.br 11 months ago
Yeah it is bad.
qooqie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I cancelled my nitro years ago because what exactly is the benefits that I can’t do with being a freeloader? Besides I’m sure they scrape all my data anyways
jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
I’m glad I can use a custom client on Android.
tory@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I dont understand the outrage. It’s slightly different, oh no. Back in my day, we used a shitty bright white Windows 95 style UI called ventrillo, and WE LIKED IT.
blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It already took too long to go to DMs from the base screen. They really need the ability to have a favorite list that includes both.
g33z@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How do I persuade my friends to switch to Mumble? x]
Lesrid@lemm.ee 11 months ago
What I hate is the new button art or icon style or whatever, it’s more bubbly and less readable at a glance now.
Mandy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Discord design team has been utterly useless since they changed to the dark theme being the default in like 2016
they just tried to justify their overstay and over-payment by changing shit for the sake of changing it
if people werent lazy such lazy apathetic blobs i could have left the platform years ago.
I managed to get barely a hundred people to switch from a 3k server and after a couple of weeks most stopped talking altogether, internet communication sucks man.
Melt@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I fucking hate UI changes
shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Is it bad if I liked the change? I don’t use discord too much though
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Updated today, don’t see a difference.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Who cares
EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If you want to destroy my ~~sweater ~~ app, hold this thread, as we walk away
AzureRT@reddthat.com 11 months ago
Don’t get how anyone likes the new UI. I downloaded the regular discord app (I use Aliucord,fortunately still on old UI) real quick and literally could not figure where anything was.
aesen1@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Source: like 7 people on
twitterXMelastSB@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Ye, but it’s significant since that’s 80% of the Nitro subscribers
Prethoryn@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Make it 70. I am a Nitro sub actually make it 40 I have 3 other friends that are as well. Well now technically 30 because I have an additional friend in Sweden who pays for it. I have fiber my friends and I stream games the higher streaming quality is worth it. I also use Vencord to add some additional features.
More people pay for things that I think are given credit for. I don’t mind spending money on a product I enjoy with my friends.