Exploring a cave is great, but I sure as fuck wouldn't try crawling down a tiny hole going down at a 70 degree angle. Some spelunkers are straight nuts though, like they get to the end of a cave and say "wow, the wind is whistling through here!" and try expanding small openings with a hammer and chisel or even explosives. I went caving one time in a well known but very long cave, with experienced people, and that was really interesting. When i got back I read my friend's cave incident journal, which details all the rescues and deaths that happened in the last year, and it was... interesting. Shit like "oh, jimmy got stuck, so we had to break his ribs to get him out". Great.
Why do it
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squiblet@kbin.social 11 months ago
underwire212@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Yeah…I’m OK with going my entire life without doing any of that.
squiblet@kbin.social 11 months ago
We had some interesting times on the one expedition I did. It was fascinating and I would recommend trying it at least once... doesn't have to be dangerous. Even going to Carlsbad Caverns, which is a National Park and while not the real spelunking experience, pretty cool. I went to Wolf Creek Cave in Tennessee. Most of it was just like mountain hiking, but with a ceiling. Questionable parts included crawling in light mud on our hands and knees for 600 feet through an area where the ceiling was about 3 feet high. Also one part, you go through a 'door' and have to drop down ~5 feet onto some rocks... people told me "be sure to go left when you land!!" and wtf was to the right? This giant dark pit of rocks at least 20 feet deep. Okay... then at the very bottom, there was this area with a bunch of trickling water and awesome stalagmites where you could sit on rocks by this weird little stream and ponds. We split up and sat in different rooms... the guy from Kentucky I sat with, who I'd never met before, told me "sometimes when I'm down here... i listen to the water... and it sounds like people talking..." Uh, okay. But anyway it was an amazing experience and profoundly strange... the 'rooms' and 'hallways' are oddly reminiscent of human construction.
AnarchistsForDemocracy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s what Alice from Alice in Wonderland did.
SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I’m slightly claustrophobic, but it has never impacted my life. Elevator? Fine. Tiny closet? Fine. But a cave where you have to crawl for more than a few seconds? I’d die right there.
metaStatic@kbin.social 11 months ago
This hole was made for me
SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
That’s what she said
DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Just in case you’re not getting the reference, the full comic for your reading pleasure.
HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 11 months ago
In fairness, after I got bottom surgery I got a lot of laughs with that line.
justlookingfordragon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
… drr drr drr …
Gigan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Fun Fact: They never got him out, they sealed the cave with his body still there. Nutty Putty Cave is his grave.
flicker@kbin.social 11 months ago
Nutty Putty Cave is his Nutty Putty Grave sounds better for whatever reason.
victorz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Could you point to the fun part? 🙁
Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The fun part is that it’s called the Nutty Putty cave.
MrGooglyPants@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Yeah they say that in the article… Which was linked
samus12345@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If anyone wants some nightmare fuel, here’s what happened.
cRazi_man@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I searched for an watched a YouTube video about it…and I regret it immensely.
CluckN@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I can’t wait for someone in 2077 to make a documentary about this by plagiarizing an article that goes hour by hour.
Bathtubwalrus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
My god, my stomach hurts and my chest feels tight just from reading that. I went to Cave of the winds in Colorado a few years back and they had a smaller tunnel that you could crawl through to get a sense of what it was like. It was probably like 20ft long and big enough for the pretty hefty guide to get through. I got up to it and noped the fuck out.
randoot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
So sad they were so close to saving him.
samus12345@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I know, if that rock hadn’t crumbled, he would probably have survived.
SCB@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Brave people push boundaries so that less brave people can read things in books.
Zehzin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Brave people push boundaries, stupid people purposely shove their entire bodies into a hole and die
shasta@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Seriously. He could’ve shone a flashlight down there and seen it was a death trap before going down
Willer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Brave people push boundaries, stupid people purposely shove their entire bodies into a hole and
dieexpect to live
samus12345@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well, yes, but you can be brave and take precautions at the same time. He wouldn’t have died if he’d followed proper caving guidelines.
spirinolas@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Book title: How I fucked around.
Epilogue:?
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This isnt brave or pushing boundaries.
This is just an imbecile commiting suicide with extra steps.
WoahWoah@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And yet, here you are reading about it, reading others’ thoughts about it, and engaged in a conversation about it.
AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I remember seeing a video of a dude exploring a cave and he was crawling through some narrow ass space tighter than under my bed. Why would one want to do this??? What if it was a dead end? How tf are you gonna turn around? Crawl backwards? I just can’t with any of this
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You will never reap the rewards of being trapped under water for hours with that kind of attitude.
Rolando@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The Eternal Reward, that is.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
I’ve seen such video. The dude struggled to move because he just barely fit in enough to still be able to breathe. There was water in there, and he said he has to return because it’s starting to fill with water.
Fill with water? Nope. Nope. Why would I go in such space.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Funny thing is I’m terrified of spelunking, but actively working towards being certified for cave diving.
Fill it with water and I’m interested!
I think part of it is that I can’t get stuck as easily with scuba gear strapped on my back, and I don’t have to worry about gravity fucking me over.
And I’ll never go anywhere that requires squeezing my fat ass through a crack.
PopShark@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Those guys got blessed by the algorithm or something I recognize the channel and video. Don’t know why YouTube decided I would be interested in spelunking but their videos are pretty entertaining at least. Personally I’ll take heights over tight spaces anyday.
MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How about this, there’s people that do this underwater. They take the tank off their back, push it out ahead of them. If they get stuck, they don’t have 27 hours to try and figure their shit out, they have a couple hours at best
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s where I draw the line.
Normal spelunking, minimal vertical work, the occasional belly crawl no smaller than a manhole. That’s actually a pretty good time. You get wet, dirty, have a few laughs with your friends, and then shake it off with some beers back at the campsite. No need to go aggressive with ridiculously tight crawls and/or 100’s of feet of vertical work, etc.
Cave diving? Let’s take an activity where it’s very easy to loose track of time, and add SCUBA which requires time management down to the minute for your health and survival. Nevermind getting lost, disoriented, or wedged underwater somewhere. I get that this is very intrepid stuff, and the very distant corners of cave systems are being explored this way. But it’s a big no for me; the risk does not justify the reward, IMO.
UFODivebomb@programming.dev 11 months ago
I used to go spelunking… I honestly can’t answer you. Kinda neat but mostly just being in the total dark in a tiny space surrounded by rocks.
On the plus side i can basically fall asleep in an MRI
vsh@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Same as sky jumping
Adrenaline.
Kage520@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Don’t forget the spiders
ICastFist@programming.dev 11 months ago
I mean, the moment you see a passage that barely fits a child and you think to yourself “Hey, I should get in there!”, you’re just aiming to be the year’s winner of the Darwin Awards.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s what I think on the rare occasions I get a look at my wife’s genitalia.
StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 11 months ago
🤣
CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I love to watch caving videos: much better for someone younger and foolhardier than me to actually do the climbing and clambering with their gopros. I’ll continue to enjoy things like air, vast open spaces, and vicarious experiences.
People take a lot of safety precautions now, reasonably, but every once in a while the cavers on YT will do something just stupid and it baffles me. “The water’s ice cold and up to my nostrils, but I really want to see where this tunnel goes! Going to turn my lamp and camera off for now to save battery, see you in a few hours!”
squiblet@kbin.social 11 months ago
Some of the stuff describe in the spelunking journal is insane, like "okay, we'll rappel down this giant cliff, then there's a pond at the bottom, so we brought our scuba gear..."
MBM@lemmings.world 11 months ago
“okay, we’ll rappel down this giant cliff, then there’s a pond at the bottom, so we brought our scuba gear…”
… I’m split between being absolutely terrified of getting stuck, and thinking what you’re describing sounds awesome
bulwark@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I love caving videos as well but would absolutely not do it. I like these guys videos: ActionAdventureTwins
This video is wild, they drop down like a 600’ pit in a cave. youtu.be/eULp72P0pNM?si=mi6Wc3_aMBC7Xrdy
CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Im a fan as well, their videos are excellent and they often do trips with other cavers, so you can find other small channels through them if people want more “cave content.”
What trips me out is towards the end of each video where they’ll be like, “Alright, Brad is heading back so I’m going to wrap up too. We’ve been in the cave for 12 hours, probably a good time to head up.” 8+ hours of squeezing through cold, dark passages sounds like actual nightmares I’ve had!
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thank you for making me claustrophobic in my biggest room.
SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Well then you dont wanna hear bout my recurring dream about being burried alive unable to move my arm enough to protect my face from the rats gnawing at me
squiblet@kbin.social 11 months ago
This is reminding me, a few days ago I read an article telling the story of this guy who was trapped in a cave in Kentucky after rubble fell on his leg. This is the story: https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/tragedy-at-sand-cave.htm of Floyd Collins, though the article I read earlier was more engaging.
OrderedChaos@lemmy.world 11 months ago
So specific it might be a past life/death experience.
WashedOver@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
This photo gave me the heebee geebees… I’m left asking why and do I have claustrophobia now as a result?
Shapillon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m claustrophobic and shouldn’t have seen this post before sleeping…
AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 11 months ago
Spelunking is great fun when you prepare properly.
Squeezes are not advisable.
SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Hey spelunking is perfectly normal for anyone, spelunk all you want in the privacy of your own home. Just dont go into caves.
MrFappy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Ass-spelunking is the most fun. I was introduced to the practice by South Park BLaU.
suckaduck@feddit.nl 11 months ago
Always clear your browser history first
Rolder@reddthat.com 11 months ago
I’ll go in a cave no problem but anything where I can’t turn or move freely is a big old nope. And if it seems unstable or whatnot I’m out of there.
Agent641@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This hole… it was made for him
starbreaker@kbin.social 11 months ago
Why do it? For the same reason Mt. Everest is littered with human corpses, shit, and garbage. For the same reason there's an American flag and a plaque immortalizing Richard fucking Nixon on the goddamned moon.
Because it's there.
ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
God I hate the idea of that being your last days… Why do people just purposely wander deep into caves?
fox2263@lemmy.world 11 months ago
He most likely pissed himself on his face.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 11 months ago
SADDAM HUSSEIN
ultratiem@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
What I don’t get is neither path is very deep, so shining a light would reveal both dead ends. Can’t think of a worse way to go tho. And the fear and panic realizing you’re doomed.
NaoPb@eviltoast.org 11 months ago
The closest I’ll be getting to exploring a cave is playing Microsoft Adventure. I’m not getting into a cave, no sir.
Zehzin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s a crazy story, I hope someone makes an original video about it
Redfugee@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This video detailing the event was more uncomfortable to watch than expected, if you really imagine what it must have been like… Horrible way to go. www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-TaF2DbaWw
gatelike@feddit.de 11 months ago
nsfl
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Don’t go in the hole
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
That is not what it looked like at all, really. But yes. Dude super fucked up, and got an entire cave permanently shut down.
TootSweet@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Fucked up cave stories? Fucked up cave stories.
wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 11 months ago
Are tight crannies like this not what drones were invented for? Do cavers not use mini robots to scout out ahead?
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Going spelunking? Whatever floats your boat
Crawling into a small crack? Dangerous.
But why the fuck did he go into it head first?
Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Now imaging crawling into a cave, and being blocked by somebody else’s shoes.
AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Everybody has a vice.
This one was adrenaline.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You can explore a cave and not be a dumbass.
I like caves (been to like only 2 or 3 though, lol), but if I become stupid enough and trap myself in one, I hope no one would risk a life to rescue me. That’s what’s actually the worst thing about situations like this.
Vej@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I’ve seen too many memes as of late. I really thought this would have been Saddam Hussein without reading this first.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Image
Heres one to add to your collection. Its a bit old but still kinda amusing.