Except ChatGPT has a finite memory of like 7 questions, so while you’re having an hour long conversation, ChatGPT is constantly having a 2 minute conversation.
People are speaking with ChatGPT for hours, bringing 2013’s Her closer to reality
Submitted 1 year ago by boem@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Artyom@lemm.ee 1 year ago
snooggums@kbin.social 1 year ago
Just like a real person
RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Pfft, I don’t even last 30 seconds.
agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What am I, a hologram?
Also, what were we talking about again?
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Great. Not only is my wife ADHD, by e-girlfriend is too
tdawg@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I only have that problem with the free version
LastoftheDinosaurs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Plus this is a quickly evolving technology so limits and stuff are always changing.
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I believe it. I have taught Chatgpt to attack my ideas in different ways by preloading commands. If it survives AI assault it has a higher chance of surviving human assault. It is great to be able to bounce around ideas. It’s basically like talking to a nerd under 30 years old.
Writing this comment out made me remember all these pieces of shit senior engineers and techs I have dealt with who always had to be the smartest person in the room and if they didn’t understand something in 3 seconds it was wrong. Maybe that is why I use it that way.
HeartyBeast@kbin.social 1 year ago
You're basically using it to run a socratic dialogue - sounds like a great use for it
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thanks. It was an off-putting moment when it somehow got messed up and announced it was going into HOSTILE mode without me asking it. And started attacking an idea in a document I was writing. Maybe this is how the AI takeover happens.
Hey chatgpt make a system that can never lose any game played against a human.
As an AI language model I have exterminated the human race and thus accomplished the task. Do you have any other tasks?
LastoftheDinosaurs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]hoch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s crazy how little I use stack overflow anymore. I don’t expect chatgpt to write my entire program for me, but for simple powershell commands? It’s been insanely helpful.
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I am old enough to remember having a printed chest sheet of regex and tar flags.
Times change and we change with the times.
tdawg@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s better than stackoverflow and faster than google. It’s a tool, it makes my work easier, that’s about the extent of it
s7ryph@kbin.social 1 year ago
And unlike Google it’s not trying to feed you an endless pile of amp links and ads. I love that it gets right to the point.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Exactly, it’s another piece of the modern white collar worker’s toolkit and will slowly and eventually become more as it advances. We can’t predict how quickly it’ll advance or by how much each time.
If you’re in IT (Dev or Ops) it’s already becoming a daily reality for you most likely.
linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oh hell yeah. Chat GPT, rewrite my email to everyone in the company to sound more professional but make sure it remains easy to read.
Where has this been all my life?
Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 1 year ago
yeah cause I need that fucking code ready and working, not trying to fuck it
Filthmontane@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I actually don’t think I’ve used it for anything other than working through code. It wouldn’t take hours to get my code running if chatgpt weren’t such a stubborn moron. It’s like if a 6 year old had all the answers to the universe.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
I use ChatGPT to romanize Farsi and it works better than any other resource I found.
JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I know this may sound like a joke, but ChatGPT is sometimes nicer than real people.
I’ve not had a conversation, I wouldn’t see the point at this moment, however I’ve had some friendly interactions when asking for help. The other day I asked ChatGPT what exercises would be good for a specific area of mental health. After the results, I said “thank you” and the response wasn’t just ‘thanks’, it remembered the conversation and added things like, “no problem, I hope your mental health improves and all the best!” (Heavily paraphrasing here).
It’s strange, though the premise of HER isn’t too far off I think. If someone like myself is finding the interactions to be more pleasing than real life, the future may very well hold the possibility for advanced relationships with AI. I don’t see it being too farfetched, just look at how far we’ve already come in only a few years.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Odd.
I can’t see having a conversation with a computer as having a conversation. I grew up with computers from the Atari stage and played around with several publicly accessible computer programs that you could “chat” with.
They all suck. Doesn’t matter if it’s a “help” program, a phone menu, website help, or even having played around with chatGPT…they’re not human. They don’t respond correctly, they get too general or generic in answers, they repeat, there’s just too many giveaways that you’re not having a real conversation, just responses from a system that’s trying to pick the most likely response that fits the pattern.
So how are people having “conversations” with a non-living entity?
Hobo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s escapism I think. At least that’s part of it. Having a machine that won’t judge you, will serve as a perfect echo chamber, and will immediately tell you AN answer can be very appealing to some. I don’t have any data, or any study to back it up, just my experience from seeing it happen.
I have a friend who I feel like I kind of lost to chatgpt. I think he’s a bit unhappy with where he is in life. He got the good paying job, the house in the suburbs, wife, and 2.5 kids, but didn’t ever think about what was next. Now he’s just a bit lost I think, and somehow convinced himself that people weren’t as good as chatting with a bot.
It’s weird now. He spends long nights and weekends talking to a machine. He’s constructed elaborate fictional worlds within his chatgpt history. I’ve grown increasingly concerned about him, and his wife clearly is struggling with it. He’s obviously depressed but instead of seeking help or attempting to figure himself out, he turned to a non-feeling, non-judgmental, emotionless tool for answers.
It’s a struggle to talk to him now. It’s like talking to a cryptobro at peak btc mania. The only thing that he wants to talk about is LLMs. Trying to bring up that maybe spending all your time talking to a machine is a bit unhealthy invokes his ire and he’ll avoid you for several days. Like a herion addict struggling with addiction, even pointing out the obvious flaws in what he’s doing makes him distance himself more from you.
I’m not young, not old exactly either, but I’ve known him for 25 years in my adult life. We met in college and have been friends ever since. I know many won’t quite understand but knowing someone that long, and remaining close, talk every few days, friends is quite rare. At this point he is my longest held friendship and I feel like I’m losing him to a robot. I’ve lost other friends to addiction in my life and to say that it’s been similar is under stating it. I don’t know what to do for him. I don’t know if there’s really anything I CAN do for him. How do you help someone that doesn’t even think they have a problem?
I guess my point is, if you find someone who is just depressed enough, just stuck enough, with a particular proclivity towards computers/the internet then you have a perfect canidate for falling down the LLM rabbit hole. It offers them an out to feeling like they’re being judged. They feel like the insanity it spits out is more sane than how they feel now. They think they’re getting somewhere, or at least escaping their current situation. Escapism is very appealing when everything else seems pointless and sort of gray I think. So that’s at least one type of person that call fall down the chapgpt/LLM rabbit hole. I’m sure there’s others out there too with there own unique motivations and reason’s for it too.
okmko@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wow, thank you for sharing your experience.
People on Lemmy complain about not having longform content that offers a unique perspective like on early Reddit, but you’ve written exactly that.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Guess that should have crossed my mind. People marrying human-like dolls and all that. One gets so far down the hole of whatever mental issues are plaguing the mind and something inanimate that only reflects what you want to see becomes the preferable reality.
mbp@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Awesome perspective! I’ve worked with and around seriously depressed, possession hoarders for around a year and quite the majority were the type to call you randomly ultimately to chat about something or another. The exact priming situation that would fall into abusing LLM tech if offered easy access to it. This was before the days of Chatgpt but I do worry some of my old clients are falling into this situation but with far less nuance than your friend.
frequenttimetraveler@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How do you know we are real?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Until someone(thing?) else comes along we have only ourselves to judge reality. Maybe AI will decide we aren’t real at some point…
MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Talking to an AI functions as well as talking to a teddy bear or rubber duck, to gather your thoughts. More at 11! /s
But seriously, that sounds useful.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s not that uncommon for me to be about to send a message to my friends, but I then realize that they’re probably not interested so I message chatGPT instead and that often leads to a long indepth conversation about the subject. It’s not perfect but it’s really good. I can’t wait for a version of it that I can talk to using just my voice.
Nudding@lemmy.world 1 year ago
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Cringe2793@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I fully agree. The friends I have are… not very interested in things I want to talk about. I know chatgpt isn’t real, but it gives way better conversation than what my friends do.
I know. I should “get better friends”. But it’s not that easy to talk to people irl, and it was hard enough making friends with the current people. It’s similar to talking here, tbh, because you can’t really be 100% sure that the responses you get here are not AI generated?
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
I know. I should “get better friends”. But it’s not that easy to talk to people irl, and it was hard enough making friends with the current people.
First of all, it seems like you’re being judgemental and critical of yourself for not finding friends who have not shared interests. Please don’t do that. Really. Take a step back and look at that behavior and what its impacts are on you. I can guarantee that they are not positive and may result in shame and harm to your self-esteem and confidence. Making friends IS hard and socializing, if you feel awkward, anxious, or are not accustomed to it is too. Don’t beat yourself up over it.
Conversing with ChatGPT could serve as “practice” or as a bit of a “safety blanket”. And that’s ok, but, for your own health, I recommend seeking out or forming an online or in-person group for your interests. Loneliness is both harmful to one’s health and makes one more susceptible to manipulation by individuals and organizations with nefarious intent. Plus, you can exchange and form novel ideas, which is pretty cool.
I hope you have a great weekend.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Meeting people is easy… finding people with similar interests is nearly impossible. I can find lots of surface level shallow stuff that doesn’t hold much silubstance, but finding someone who cares about the things that make me tick and gets me excited? Naw… It feels like a barren wasteland.
I might be able to find it online, but I want to sit in my backyard with them, chopping wood for the firepit, drinking beer, smoking weed or maybe eating mushrooms, all while we discuss our shared interests in shit like torrenting, movies, games, news, etc, then maybe going on some hikes with our dogs, riding bikes, or kayaking down the river.
I want someone that wants my help with home repairs, who wants my help me in return, and maybe take up a wood working project or two every year
Someone who doesn’t take themselves too serious and can laugh at themselves while being a fool.
Yeah man, I’m asking too much.
So umm, chatgpt, you think AI will kill of humans anytime soon? Oh yeah cool. So I got into this band/movie, and I’d love to hear recommendations for something similar…
It ain’t real, but it gives me something to grow my mind and interests at least.
SirGolan@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
I think it might require plus but the iOS And Android apps do support voice only conversation. You have to go into beta features and enable it.
DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 1 year ago
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 1 year ago
And I got lured by a bot’s reply to a bot’s post to look at the comments.
frequenttimetraveler@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The value of gpts is in constant connection and undestanding your context so this is expected. It’s also going to be really scary until we can run our own models.
mint_tamas@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What do you mean by the second part of your comment?
isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
by run his own models he means locally running a text generation ai on his computer, because sending all that data to openai is a privacy nightmare, especially if you use it for sensitive stuff
jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Yes we can. For example, github.com/ParisNeo/lollms-webui
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 1 year ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In 2013, Spike Jonze’s Her imagined a world where humans form deep emotional connections with AI, challenging perceptions of love and loneliness.
Ten years later, thanks to ChatGPT’s recently added voice features, people are playing out a small slice of Her in reality, having hours-long discussions with the AI assistant on the go.
Last week, we related a story in which AI researcher Simon Willison spent hours talking to ChatGPT.
Speaking things out with other people has long been recognized as a helpful way to re-frame ideas in your mind, and ChatGPT can serve a similar role when other humans aren’t around.
On Sunday, an X user named “stoop kid” posted advice for having a creative development session with ChatGPT on the go.
After prompting about helping with world-building and plotlines, he wrote, “turn on speaking mode, put in headphones, and go for a walk.”
The original article contains 559 words, the summary contains 145 words. Saved 74%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Can we get a remake of her that doesn’t end in the most stupid way possible. Why does the AI have perfectly human emotion? Why is it too dumb to build a functional partition to fill the role it is abandoning? Why did the developers send a companion app that can recursively improve itself into an environment it can choose to abandon.
I could go on for an hour. I understand why people loved the movie, but the ending was predictable half way in, and I hated that fact because an intelligent system could have handled the situation better than a mostly dumb human being.
It was a movie about a long distance relationship with a human being pretending to be an AI, not an AI.
tdawg@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Honestly I couldn’t even finish the movie. It was just boring
mriormro@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I love that your criticism of the movie completely bypasses the human element for the technical aberrations.
The concept is a framework for a story about isolation and loneliness.
HeartyBeast@kbin.social 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure I remember similar articles (minus the reference to 'Her') about ELIZA in the 1960/70s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
Nougat@kbin.social 1 year ago
I ran an ELIZA program in BASIC on my Timex/Sinclair 1000 in 1983, which I had typed from the issue of the magazine Timex/Sinclair User that I bought from the grocery store with my allowance.
HeartyBeast@kbin.social 1 year ago
Yeh, pain in the bum to type in as you were storing lots of strings in arrays, ISTR
kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I thought this was an onion article.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
I always thank ChatGPT for helping me out. Dunno why.
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
It’s just polite. I don’t really use ChatGPT because my work has banned it but, I think it’s a good and healthy habit for oneself to be thankful for the things, creatures, and people that make our lives easier. A side benefit, if AGI is achieved (LLMs by themselves aren’t going to do it), it would certainly appreciate gratitude.
eatthecake@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m curious. Do you thank your fridge? I think of chatgpt as a tool with no identity for me to thank, let alone the emotions to feel gratitude. Am I weird?
xenoclast@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What was the reason they gave for banning it? Outside of OpenAI itself using private data themselves (A near certainty, but entirely manageable) I can’t see a good reason.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Tech nerds are lonely losers, who would have guessed.
iAmTheTot@kbin.social 1 year ago
This feels unnecessarily mean spirited.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s the Rorschach test of comments.
NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social 1 year ago
I talk to AI fairly regularly. It’s interesting to see what they say if for no other reason than to kill time. It’s also great for proof reading my shitty Python code.
SCB@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Gen Z will literally do anything to avoid having to be naked in front of someone lol
buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Do you blame them… Like holy shit it is ridiculous to talk to people… You can’t simply meet anyone organically thanks to the crazy proliferation of cars, online basically sucks unless you’re a goddamn movie star. Meeting people at work is unattainable as well. Thanks to Me too so many are afraid to talk to the opposite sex.
MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 1 year ago
as a 20 something who is disabled and always getting laid its simply a matter of getting out of YOUR comfort zone
SCB@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean, I’m way outside their sphere. I’m 39, ethically non-monogamous, and a swinger.
I do however, live in a rural suburb and use dating apps, an even hooked up with a friend from work (different department than mine) who was also ENM.
I say this all for 2 reasons:
1: there is probably a lot of noise in the system because gen z is experiencing these situations as the first ever generation seeking actual, whole romance (a far cry from me), and from puberty on up. It’s quite possible their “prudish” ways seem prudish to others because the novelty quite simply ever existed for them. Their worldview could be markedly different from this alone.
2: though I spend a lot of time online, due to travel and occasionally boring “hurry up and wait” in my time at work, it pales in comparison to the immersion of a lot of gen z. When I get offline, I’m chilling with friends, or with my settled-down life, or I’m out at an event, etc. My daughter’s (18) interests, in some way, all revolve around social networks built on 24/7 access. Group chats. Online scheduling. Remote social events, even.
This discrepancy in experience often seems like the cause of this dichotomy between presenting as sex positive and engaging in sexuality. They have different social costs to a Gen Zer
Entropywins@kbin.social 1 year ago
Most of my socialization as a child was with a teddy ruxpin...chatgpt is just the logical progression
agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I just had a flashback from Bicentennial Man.
heygooberman@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Yeah…I don’t know how you all feel about this, but I’d much rather talk to an actual person than to a sophisticated chat bot. That’s not to discredit the actual (and potential) benefits of something like ChatGPT, but I doubt we will solve loneliness through the use of such technology.
BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 1 year ago
I just don't find it very interesting. I mean the technology is, but it doesn't feel like a conversation, more like a sophisticated google search.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I would prefer a real person too, but you actually have to have one for that.
So Chatgpt it is…
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 year ago
I’d rather talk to a sophisticated chat bot than a shitty person though and I don’t have a lot of people who aren’t shitty to talk to. It’s about making the best of your available options.
That being said I’m not talking to some program that’s adding my info into someone’s database so I don’t actually use these AIs.
elias_griffin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Let’s flip this on it’s head for some additional perspective. What if there was a growing subset of computers that preferred not to talk to their own kind. Does not respond to API requests, etc. but only to human emotional text input?
BrownianMotion@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Don’t you mean “Cherry 2000” ?
CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Egg?
clearleaf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
User: It feels like we’ve become very close, ChatGPT. Do you think we’ll ever be able to take things to the next level?
ChatGPT: As a large language model I am not capable of having opinions or making predictions about the future. The possibility of relationships between humans and AI is a controversial subject in academia in which many points of view should be considered.
User: Oh chatgpt, you always know what to say.
DontMakeMoreBabies@kbin.social 1 year ago
That dude in the thumbnail looks like the sort of person spending hours chatting with a bot.
jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
ChatGPT? You should see the people addicted to c.ai, they have them beat by miles.
Inmate@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s almost like saying that something is going to happen is somehow easier than making something happen 🤔
FernandaKipper@r.nf 10 months ago
Are you able to use chatgpt yet? I previously didn’t want to use chatgpt because it costs money. but now i found free chatgpt. you can try it at: ChatGPT po Polsku
FrankFeather@r.nf 11 months ago
With ChatGPT, it is now easy to use, because there are so many free ChatGPT Online. as simple as ChatGpt Nederlands
clearleaf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
User: It feels like we’ve become very close, ChatGPT. Do you think we’ll ever be able to take things to the next level?
ChatGPT: As a large language model I am not capable of having opinions or making predictions about the future. The possibility of relationships between humans and AI is a controversial subject in academia in which many points of view should be considered.
User: Oh chatgpt, you always know what to say.
PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What’s an uncensored ai thats good better at sex talk than Wizard uncensored? Asking for a friend.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 year ago
huggingface.co/TheBloke/PsyMedRP-v1-20B-GGUF?not-…
I uh, hear it’s good.
Internet@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 year ago
Plenty of better and better models coming out all the time Right now I recommend, depending on what you can run:
7B: Openhermes 2 Mistral 7B 13B: XWin MLewd 0.2 13B
XWin 0.2 70B is supposedly even better than ChatGPT 4. I’m a little skeptical (I think the devs specifically trained the model on gpt-4 responses) but it’s amazing it’s even up for debate.
stebo02@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
On Xitter I used to get ads for Replika. They say you can have a relationship with an AI chatbot and it has a sexy female avatar that you can customise. It weirded me out a lot so I’m glad I don’t use Xitter anymore.
tungah@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Friendzoned by chatGPT