YSK TikTok Is Harming Children at an Industrial Scale. We know this because we obtained messages from TikTok engineers and executives

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• gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They tried warning us about fb over 10 years ago and nothing happened

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  • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t say nothing happened. Young people migrated off of it and it’s now the lead gasoline of the social media world

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    • gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah but young people didn’t migrate off it because it was harmful

      They migrated in part to instagram which Facebook bought and made even more harmful than Facebook itself

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• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m looking forward to the day when social media is heavily regulated and age-gated.

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  • RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or parents can do their job. We have to suffer with age verification bullshit laws that’s just there to have us all in a database.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not having it be regulated makes it a lot harder for parents to do their job, because the kids with responsible parents are getting peer-pressured by the kids with irresponsible parents.

      Or put another way: you’re not making parents do their jobs; you’re making their jobs impossible by forcing them to choose between ruining their kid’s mental health by letting her be exposed to social media, or ruin her mental health by forcing her to be ostracised for not using social media.

      The only way to have a successful outcome is to force everyone else’s kids not to use it, not just your own, and no amount of rugged individualist good parenting can accomplish that by itself!

      That said, I am extremely sympathetic to the arguments against age verification laws too, which is why my preferred solution would be to fucking outlaw and destroy corporate social media entirely, for kids and adults alike.

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    • Zoot@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh won’t someone think of the parents though?! How can they be expected to parent their own children, oh the humanity

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    • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Durable societies are unfortunately bound to have such inconveniences for some in exchange for the betterment of many.

      Tech companies have released the equivalent of digital opium so they and the government are accountable.

      When we look back at the opioid epidemic of the 90s we don’t blame the addicts or their families (well I suppose we did at one point, without the benefit of hindsight or a bigger picture view), we blame the Sacklers, pharmaceutical companies, doctors that took kickbacks etc.

      I’d hate for us to make the same mistake just because the drug is delivered in a way we don’t completely understand yet.

      It’s also not as simple as asking parents to simply be better at parenting, whatever that may mean. The drug is already out on the street, widely available, and ridiculously addictive. Keeping your child from it is not only depriving them of a dopamine hit that their brains are not developed enough to simply ignore (even most adults are addicted) and it is in many cases relegating them to social ostracization.

      This is far beyond what one parent or group of parents can fix. It requires a societal level change which generally needs to come from the government, whether we like it or not.

      Are we a society that collectively cares about the next generation? If we are then a solution is necessary. I’d be happy to hear out possible solutions and, as a parent, share what is viable and what isn’t. It would be nice to hear from other parents also.

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    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or parents can do their job.

      They don’t, which is why regulation is essential.

      And you’re already in the database.

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    • lemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Most parents won’t. People are people. Those that would want to have to ballance the risk of excluding their children from the collective.

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  • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Age gated? You’d submit your driver’s license or identity to these sites?

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  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, and that’s how you get shitty age verification laws.

    It’s a double edged sword

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    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bummer that they’re necessary, but they are.

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• AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Several folks owe me apologies.

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• floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The exact same thing happened with Instagram years ago.

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    and Facebook.

    and MySpace.

    and club penguin.

    and…

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• lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  skill issue

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