This is salt in the wound for my friends who miss launch Overwatch.
Overwatch 2 Is Just 'Overwatch' Again And Five New Heroes Arrive Next Week
Submitted 2 days ago by simple@piefed.social to games@lemmy.world
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ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 days ago
ulkesh@piefed.social 2 days ago
I’m right there with you. I miss having 6v6 with like half the characters they have now (so I can actually learn them all), with Jeff Kaplan keeping me excited to play. What a fun time that was.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’m right there with you. I think the hamster was the last new hero I played with.
Those were good times.
Now they’re adding a cat with a jetpack, which I would love if they have her a better name than Jetpack Cat.
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Jetpack Cat was the original name of the cat though. It’s a tough corner they’ve backed themselves into there.
It was originally the model for Pharah, before they decided (Jeff Kaplan) that it should be more serious and not include actual animals in it (you have Winston, but he talks and acts like a human).
So they reworked the Jetpack Cat into Pharah and released her as the daughter of Ana.
Jetpack Cat is owned by Brigetta and is one of her emotes that she picks it up and cuddles it.
If they had named it anything else, it would have ruined the 10 years of lore they built up around it, so I understand why they did it.
The issue for me is that it’s a support character.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I mean, to be clear, I never liked Overwatch. Back when it was new, my friends were so into it that playing it with them was the only way we’d spend any time together. They’re the ones who miss that launch game, lol.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
They are mocking us.
enterpries@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Fuck whatever morons think dumb shit like this is acceptable:
I swear, everybody is such a goddamn sellout these days.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This dumb shit isn’t acceptable, and if I see something like this I just don’t go to the website.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Why are they storing that content in a third party cookie?
Seems like their webmaster needs to update it.
The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 2 days ago
I gave up on this game a long time ago. It took me longer than it should’ve to realize that “old blizzard” is gone and not coming back.
magiccupcake@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I took a long break from overwatch after the release of overwatch 2, but they have been made some big changes that have brought me back.
No more heros locked behind battle passes, free loot boxes, 6v6, great performance, sound design and the new perk system is nice. The game is more balanced than it ever was as overwatch 1, even it it’s still not perfect.
I don’t agree with everything, paid skins are absurdly expensive, and heros do seem designed to sell skins, but that’s really not new either.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 days ago
You seem knowledgeable about modern blizzard. What are the women who work there saying about equality? Would the breast milk thing happen again today?
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Years for me. I spent years before realizing that I’m never getting a good matchmaker
grueling_spool@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Blizzard openly admitting that they scammed players into buying Overwatch 1 twice:
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Still dead to me.
JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m still grateful that Blizzard did the Overwatch free weekend so I could determine for myself that it sucks ass.
PrinceOfSloth@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
why does this game ask for my phone no. to play?
rigatti@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Because it’s free to play and it’s supposed to be a deterrent to smurfing.
PrinceOfSloth@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
man, games are taken so seriously these days that they resort to smurfing.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Smurfing was probably a side-effect. I remember their main reasoning was to ban people who trash talk in voice comms/chat so they cant just create new account using same number.
criss_cross@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Activision does that with all their games now.
It’s the reason I won’t buy a new COD game.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
I hate that shit. But there is actually a reason for. It’s part of their ongoing battle against cheaters or bad actors, as the game is free to play.
justsquigglez@leminal.space 2 days ago
I think I actually took psychic damage reading that. Just… why.
Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
just play TF2 or marvel rivals at this point
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
I play Marvel Rivals almost every day. Compared to Overwatch, it’s more casual and fun oriented, not that balanced at all. And its in third person, not first person. While Rivals has some Overwatch energy and can be played as a replacement, it is not a full replacement. And no other of these games will probably reach peak Overwatch and does not have the same charm.
BTW I recently installed Team Fortress 2 Classified, a mod that got its own Steam store page. It has lot of stuff from early TF2 days recreated and looks very interesting. Still need to try it out.
Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
And its in third person, not first person.
ohhh yeah i forgot
it’s more casual and fun oriented, not that balanced at all
Yeah fair enough
BTW I recently installed Team Fortress 2 Classified, a mod that got its own Steam store page. It has lot of stuff from early TF2 days recreated and looks very interesting. Still need to try it out.
i think its also Team Fortress classic and maybe scraped tf2 features aswell
Jumi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
TF2 is a different game and Rivals is definitely not as good in areas that matter like gameplay and maps
vogi@piefed.social 2 days ago
Overwatch is close to being a decade old btw.
It’s so unfortunate what they did to Overwatch, wonder how Jeff Kaplan and the original Team feels about all that.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
IIRC he just washed his hands and moved on from it, which probably was the right call given the Acti-Blizz merger and Microsoft buyout.
Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
“Microslop”
Poopfeast420@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
As great as Jeff was, he’s the one that did all the stuff to Overwatch.
As far as I’ve heard/read he was never really interested in making a PVP game, he wanted to make Titan, the MMO. Then he got another chance with OW2 and the PVE mode, and even got an offer to make a separate dev team that would focus on PVP, so he could put his all into PVE, but declined, so the game was left to die (even though it never really died). Then PVE in OW2 was a bust again and he left.
vogi@piefed.social 1 day ago
Oh, I have never heard of that. Also forgot that he was still around when OW2 launched. Still believe it sucks big time to see a project go down this route especially after being such a big success. It might not be dead, but it definitely is just a shell of its past.
MolochAlter@lemmy.world 2 days ago
“Jetpack cat”? Really? That desperate, huh?
enterpries@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
These look like generic Chinese-overwatch characters.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 days ago
snooggums@piefed.world 2 days ago
I laughed out loud at Overwatch x Hello Kitty and Friends.
yeather@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Pochacco my beloved
vogi@piefed.social 2 days ago
actualaccount@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
No thanks. I have 1000 hours in OW, but I’ve moved on.
HollowNaught@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I hatwcwhen guess try to add too many characters
Earlier on, it felt like I could competently play all characters and, when i saw another in the field, knew what to expect from them
Now, I feel like constantly learning new characters is a chore at best
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Isnt every sequel “just the previous thing again?”
lemming@anarchist.nexus 2 days ago
Headline is trying, poorly, to say they are renaming it to just ’Overwatch’ without the 2.
snooggums@piefed.world 2 days ago
That is how I read it, what else could it mean?
zewm@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Quake and Quake 2 would like a word.
ulkesh@piefed.social 2 days ago
Diablo and Diablo 2 entered the chat.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I love both (personally like Quake 2 better) and consider Quake 2 to be “Quake 1 again.”
Though the visual tone of the game changed, it was still a fast paced action shooter with an identity that was different enough from Doom to be called “just Doom again.” Many improvements were made, but at its core it still felt like Quake. It didn’t feel like I was suddenly playing Mario, or even another shooter at the time like Turok, Heretic/Hexen, or GoldenEye.
I guess I am trying to say I understand what the headline is trying to say, but it doesn’t really do that good of a job.
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org 2 days ago
Sequels are meant to be drastic improvements from the first game. Like everything. Visuals, story continuation, character development, new mechanics and features .etc
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 days ago
Not good sequels, no.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 days ago
IMO, a good sequel doesnt have to change too much to be good, and is usually close enough to be called “more of the same.”.
A good sequel is good because of its similarities to the first. Otherwise you end up with Zelda 2, which is widely regarded as the worst of the Zelda games because it changed so much (outside of a small but very vocal minority that liked it). Many movie sequels also try to change too much and end up suffering because of it. Return to Oz was an interesting movie, but I wouldn’t ever call it as good as the original. Aliens and Terminator 2 are both similar enough to their respective originals while still having minor tweaks that led to a good follow up.
So in the sense of a sequel, Overwatch 2 isn’t the worst, but I think it changed too much from the original and suffers because of it. And Blizzards decision to overwrite the original obviously plays a big part in many people’s dislike of the game.
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
There used to be an r/EmreMains when the name first appeared in lore. That must have been almost 5 years ago, and now they’ve finally released the hero. I don’t know what they expected, but I’d figure that almost everyone who was there previously has moved on, I certainly have.
Durandal@lemmy.today 2 days ago
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org 2 days ago
Did this guy live under a rock?
thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 2 days ago
Overwatch 2 isn’t ‘Overwatch again’ until its copies are disabled and replaced with Overwatch 3, which has the monetisation model of Overwatch 2 made free. 1 was the cost of the game, 2 would be premium skins I guess
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 days ago
It is kinda hard to call yourself a sequel when you’re basicslly the same exact game and literally the original game doesn’t even exist anymore.
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org 2 days ago
The developers who made Terraria contemplated on a Terraria 2 and they were faced with the decision; continue developing Terraria as is or just try to make a Terraria 2.
Seems like they've instinctively chosen to keep supporting Terraria as is, because what can you do with a Terraria 2? When so many ideas and creations have been poured into one game? It sounded like Terraria 2 was going to be the same.
popcar2@piefed.ca 2 days ago
Well… They did try to make Terraria Otherworld, but that game got cancelled and they fell back into supporting Terraria because it keeps printing money.
RickyRigatoni@piefed.social 2 days ago
What if someone made the hytale of terraria?
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Counter-Strike would like a word.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
You can still play the old counterstrike games
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 days ago
I don’t like CS2 either; but Global Offensive had already killed CS for me long before it was converted to CS2.