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If God (or any creator of the universe) exists would he be made out of atoms?

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Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨zqueeze@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨nostupidquestions@lemmy.world⁩

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  • BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The great thing about your imagination is that anything can become true if you believe it.

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  • chocrates@piefed.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We simply cannot answer that. Nothing in our models can lead to omnipotence, so there is no way to theorize about it.

    We would need someone to propose an explanation that we could test.

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  • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    To have created the universe, God has to exist outside of / independently of it. Therefore probably not made of atoms.

    Fun fact - according to most christian thinkers/speakers I’ve listend to, this makes Christianity incompatible with pantheism (the belief that God is the universe, often referred to as “we are the universe experiencing itself”).

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    • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Look into the kabbalistic concept of tzimtzum, it’s an interesting take.

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  • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    According to the bible, God has created light, space, time, matter etc. This is a strong hint that he is not made from such things.

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      God was created by the Old Ones, silly.

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    • Fleppensteijn@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The Bible also says God walked the earth like a regular man

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  • notreallyhere@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    your mom is made of atoms

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  • atropa@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    God does not exist.

    This being was created to give people something to hold on to and was also intended to oppress people and women.

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s not what the question was about, but thank you for your perspective, fedora neckbeard redditor

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      • atropa@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Prefer  open suse and arch based distros

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    • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As with most things, I assume religion was originally created with an intent to understand the world and to improve things for everyone. Ignorance reinforced the beliefs, and eventually someone figured out that they could use it as a tool to control people.

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      • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Religion is a series of documents that conveyed safety regulations and fictional stories about morality which were eventually misconstrued as divine guidance.

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    • kelpie_returns@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The implication that women are not people is fuckin nuts dude

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      • atropa@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Thanks for reporting, thinking in 1 language and writing in another language lead to errors ,I correct it

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Clearly he would be made entirely out of Higgs-Bosons.

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    • Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It was never meant to be called the god particle.

      The Higgs boson is popularly known as the “the God Particle”. The name originated from Nobel Prize-winning physicist Leon Lederman’s book on the particle which he titled the “Goddamn Particle” – owing to frustration over how difficult it was to detect.

      ndtv.com/…/what-is-higgs-boson-and-why-it-is-call…

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  • node2527@lemy.lol ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You take one part determinium, spin it causationally, add two parts euphorium (seasoned to taste), mix well in a negative space-time bowl, finally sprinkle with sarcasm spice. Boom. Done. Easy.

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  • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’d rather doubt it. I tend to think of God as the original uncaused action.

    But the most important thing is to have a healthy scepticism towards anyone who claims to have definitive knowledge of God.

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      God was created by the Old Ones, silly.

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    • QuestionMark@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The religion book we studied at school literally argued that God exists because everything must have a creator.

      Like… what? Then who created God?

      I wouldn’t believe this comment if I hadn’t read that book with my own two eyes.

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  • jflorez@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s made of unicorn farts

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    • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How many of those can dance on the head of a pin?

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not unless He becomes Incarnate, which He did. So Jesus is God and is made out of atoms, but God The Father isn’t made of atoms or any created thing.

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  • Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Did you just assume gods gender?

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      God’s pronoun is 祂¹

      God has no genders, and God is all genders simultaneously

      (¹pronounced the same as 他 (he/she) and 她 (she), [tā], but used for diving beings only)

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Glad to see someone else repeat this obscure fact about Chinese that I knew. It’s what I live for.

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  • OwlPaste@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If i had to pretend to be religious id say dark matter/energy has the best chance so far

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    • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      dark matter/energy

      These are just holes (or errors) in our current physical formulas LOL

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Literally “god of the gaps”

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  • FooBar@szmer.info ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No, if we consider classical theism (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, not sure what else but It should be quite universal), then god has no physical properties such as mass or shape. No mass would mean no atoms.

    So, would it be a phenomenon then? Like weather? Some say God is unchanging, so not the same as weather…

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    • rollerbang@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Except that one can’t have weather as a phenomenon without atoms.

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    • deadcream@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It does have cock and balls though, and goes by he/his pronouns.

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    • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Judaism, Christianity, Islam, not sure what else but It should be quite universal), then god has no physical properties

      Buddha and all the wooden gods in various jungles would like to have a word with you

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You cannot compare God to anything physical; He doesn’t have atoms

      Except of course Jesus who is God Incarnate, through Whom the world was made

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    • kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Photons don’t have mass.

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      • remon@ani.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, so no atoms.

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  • ProfessorScience@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This seems to me like the same kind of question as the one about werewolves in space. If you’re going to make up some lore, make up whatever you want!

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  • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Of course not, that’s a property of our existence, of spacetime. God, the Creator, is necessarily outside of the universe, not subordinate or contained by it. This was already addressed and understood by many throughout history, like Levantine and Mediterranean philosophers, but the Romans made anthropomorphic deities and Roman Catholicism did the final heresy and straight up made a man a deity, lol, so the wisdom of the ancients was replaced by state propaganda and Western hedonistic nihilism. 🥲🤷

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bruh…

      Fucking ridiculous and western centric as fuck to say Jesus was the first person labeled “god personified”…

      Like, the current Japanese emperor is “believed” to be the descendant of a literal god. And that shit took off long before AD or Jesus. But it undoubtedly happened much earlier all over, we just don’t have evidence of pre-historic times, that’s literally why we call that period “before history”.

      Doesn’t mean nothing happened, just that we don’t know what was happening, yet.

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      • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And the christians stole most of their lore from the Hindus and Buddhists anyway.

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      • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Well, they also committed the ultimate heresy as well, the difference is that one is still ongoing while the other ones are largely ridiculed and understood as nonsensical. 🤷

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh wow, you must have evidence if you’re this confident that you’re correct and everyone else is wrong…

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      • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Conceive THE GOD and tell me how it’s inside and constrained to its own creation… Go ahead, do the work and post it here.

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    • lath@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bish please. Man made deity is the most common thread all major civilizations share.

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      • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s easy to worship men, most just choose to worship themselves from the lot. It also means nothing. 🤷

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Christianity teaches Jesus is God. Not just Roman Catholicism. Jesus claimed to be God Himself. Jesus isn’t a separate deity, he is God (YHWH) incarnate.

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      • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My man, we will never agree because I am fundamentally a monotheist and your deity is a man. Act good deeds and I’ll act good deeds and maybe we’ll argue in the afterlife. 👋

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  • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes. All of them.

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  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Divine entities could just be an energy, that would technically not be "made of atoms’.

    Or it could be a process

    Like fire

    Or like consciousness

    which are not really made of atoms, but a byproduct of atoms interacting

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Isn’t that pantheism?

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  • Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We simply have no idea. The laws of physics began when the universe began as far as we know. Nothing before need necessarily be party to any laws, compromised of matter or exist in time.

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  • Triumph@fedia.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You'll first have to define "God".

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  • darkdemize@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What are the thoughts in our heads made of? I’d imagine any god to be made of much the same.

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    • remon@ani.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They are made up of electrical impulses. If god is the same then you need some kind of device to run god on.

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No. More like fundamental particles or even just energy waves.

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  • SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If god were real, and created the universe, I’d think that its existence would be described as something that just is. There is no start or end, no body to observe, nothing to communicate with. In the way that this supreme power would exist, there is no way for us to quantify it.

    Maybe it’s excited oxygen molecules?

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    • sanguinepar@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In the way that this supreme power would exist, there is no way for us to quantify it.

      So, dark matter, then?

      /jk

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  • Drbreen@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I believe they would be made out of something that we do not know if they were even of anything.

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      God is made of God. He just was, is, and is to come. He transcends all time and space.

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  • Lawyerator@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I figure that God is the universe and it’s laws. An all knowing and all powerful being doesn’t require deliberation to act, would u derstand all permutations of their action, and isn’t limited in any way physically. A big bang would be one such way that could manifest.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why even add the concept of a god then? Why add anything supernatural if you’re only talking about natural processes. It’s completely unnecessary, and impossible to prove or disprove

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  • lath@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you consider the universe as the body of said creator, then sure.

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