I feel like half the neighbourhood is on fire and everyone is carrying on like everything is normal

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The Untied States is literally becoming like nazi Germany and I don’t know if people understand that I’m not exaggerating. I legitimately can’t tell if people realize that America is now a fascist dictatorship, likely to soon go full on nazi Germany and make it illegal to be part of certain minority groups, at which point it may be too late fir people to leave. I don’t know if people around me understand that that’s not an exaggeration.

People just keep on going to Disneyland as if it’s perfectly safe. It’s like watching people go to a store that’s literally on fire and nobody is even trying to put it out. It’s like people think if the fire department isn’t reacting then it isn’t happening.

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Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨42⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
“Nazis” have always been a part of America, look at our founding and history.

It’s America as usual to me; I fully expect Democrats to win midterms and the next Presidential election, then they will pass a bare minimum of legislation (perhaps minimum wage, it’s getting comical); they will also do some unpopular things. This will somehow anger the Christians, who will again “take power”, and so on.

The Republican party does not want to eliminate the Democratic party. They both rely on the other, and they also both rely on corporate dollars. See Super PACs for further details.

I don’t see that changing any time soon, unless the dollar collapses, then it’s going to get weird.

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- TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  Yep. They just weren’t as visible.
  
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lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨52⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
I feel like a single nerve cell screaming out in pain while the rest of the body ignores everything until it’s bad enough to go to the emergency room.

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janus2@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
i live here, also feel like this & that everyone else isn’t taking it seriously, and am not exactly sure what the fuck to do

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Solano@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I feel paranoid that Night of 1000 Knives is coming, and it’s kept secret to only the facists, and they are all itching for the signal to start.

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- mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml ⁨47⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  Kristallnacht comes first. So keep an eye out for that. Then you can prepare for the knives.
  
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- FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It probably is
  
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frisbird@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
What helps is to recontextualize what you’re seeing. It makes you feel less crazy and helps to give you a sense of your place.

The reality is that the US is not becoming like Nazi Germany, but rather that Germany became like the United States through the Nazi movement, and then that Nazi movement was integrated into the United States, and now the United States is advancing the thing we know of as “fascism” or maybe more specifically “EuroFascism” or “North Atlantic Fascism”.

Racism as we know it today, is found all over the world. That’s NOT because racism as we know it coemerges naturally everywhere but rather because racism as we know it was invented by the European civilization and then imposed on 80% of the world’s population through imperial domination. This is important because it helps to understand what I mean when I say that Germany became like the United States.

Germany, like most Continental European countries, was not multicultural. The European nation states were generally monocultural and their techniques for survival involved the dominance of their one culture over another, often through the process of complete extermination or displacement. This expanded the boundaries of those states, but maintained them as a monoculture.

Settler colonialism started off this way - bring your culture and your people to a new land and begin the process of extermination and displacement until you have secured an outpost of your nation state in new territory. But this was incredibly inefficient, it turned out, and the Americas really showed that by being so goddamned big. A new way of colonial domination was invented in America and it drew on racial hierarchies articulated by European scientists to rationalize it. Did you know every single original medical university in the US had a huge role in the research and development of race science?

The integration of chattel slavery, reservation systems, child separation, cultural erasure, the creation of slave hierarchies where some slaves were masters over other slaves, the creation of inter-racial conflict between kidnapped and enslaved Africans and the indigenous… All of these advances were done here, in the Americas. The first gas chambers were invented by the French generals in Haiti, the same French generals that we look to as liberators and leftists in the US, because the Haitian slave revolt was so massive that the French needed efficient ways of killing large groups of them.

When you study the rise of the Third Reich and it’s leaders and philosophers, you find that they studied the US to learn how the Germans could achieve what the US had achieved. The Germans wanted to stop with this idea of just Germans owning and dominating nearby lands - there weren’t enough Germans! They needed to construct a cross-cultural race, the Aryan race, that could bind a disparate group of people together and build a greater violent force. Their intent was to invade the Slavic nations, invade Russia, and control all of the territory and resources there. To do this, though, they would need more than just extermination and displacement. They would need slave camps, reservations, they would need the Slavs to work and labor and toil but not revolt, they would need different groups to fight with each other, to fight for proximity to the Aryans for their own safety, they would need to advance the American system.

And they did. They made huge strides in developing what the Americans had made huge strides in developing from what the Americans had inherited from the British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Dutch. But, the Soviets won. The Soviets rallied every single ounce of self-preservation they could muster and they defeated the most powerful military ever fielded in Europe and marched all the way through Berlin.

And what happened. The Holy Roman Emperor - the Pope in the Vatican - to which we can trace the Doctrine of Discovery, the literal Pope started saving Nazis by getting them into monasteries and then relocating them to monasteries all around the world.

And the Americans helped. Truman oversaw the creation and execution of Operation Paperclip, which brought Nazis from all levels into the US and all over Americas. They were given money, property, jobs, security details, false identities, etc. And they were integrated into the US. The US put top Nazi officers in charge of NATO. The Allies put top Nazi politicians in charge of West Germany. It never ended.

The US isn’t becoming like the Nazis. The US inherits the fascistic empires of Europe, it advances that fascism to its highest known height, and then the Nazis emerge and extend the US’s program back into Europe, and then the Nazis are absorbed back into the US, and the US continues to develop the program, unhindered by any opponents, with a completely pacified and propagandized population.

When you realize this, you realize it’s no longer as crazy making. You have always been surrounded by Nazis or latent Nazis. The signs have always been here. You have been raised in text books worshipping genociders, slavers, rapists, human traffickers, drug dealers, and yes, fascists. The entirety of your upbringing, education, and social structures all conspire to integrate and obscure these things, because they are complicit in it. And up until such time as you realize what’s going on, you also are complicit in it

Now that you realize what’s going on, now the job is to figure out what to do about it. How to be less complicit, how to stop it, or how to build the momentum that will eventually stop it.

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- IronBird@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  seems like the easiest most immediate answer would be to remove murdochs propaganda empire. his daughters want to sell out for scraps, only his son wants to continue the family business of spreading fear and hate across fhe western world
  
  would some other parasite-grifter fill that power vacuum? probably, but i doubt they’re nearly as effecient
  
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  - frisbird@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Murdoch’s empire is the tip of the iceberg, my fine feathered friend. The US government has been producing propaganda for its entire existence. It continues the propaganda that was produced by the English, Dutch, French and Spanish before it. The US military is a propaganda machine. US military intelligence is a propaganda machine. The US State department is a propaganda machine. Nearly everything said by electeds and appointeds are part of the narrative, knowingly or not. Our education system is fundamentally built on propaganda. Our advertising landscape. Our video games. Our literature. Not just the rags, but the real thoughtful stuff too.
    
    It’s in the universities at every level, it’s in all the curriculum, it’s in the court system, in common law, in the jurisprudence. It’s in SCOTUS opinions. It’s in children’s rhymes and songs and school yard games. It’s in parenting. It’s in the churches and synagogues.
    
    It’s quite literally the narrative equivalent to the air we breathe. No. Getting rid of Murdoch’s empire would do nothing. MSNBC is propaganda. WaPo, NYT, NPR, CNN… It’s all completely integrated into a long running white supremacist narrative.
    
    Don’t believe me? Do you know about AIM? The American Indian Movement? When they were brought to court to face the state accusers the ultimate authority for the court’s decisions was none other than the fucking Doctrine of Discovery - literally a bulletin sent out by the Pope 600 years ago saying “Christianity must be spread. Save the heathens of the world. If they won’t be saved, enslave them, take their way of life from them and educate them, and if they fight back, kill them all”. Yeah. That’s what the court’s decided.
    
    But that was like 50 years. Surely it’s not the same? A, that’s not how law works and B, nope. In the 2000s the SCOTUS heard a case involving Indian territory and RBG, liberal bastion, wrote the majority opinion and the decision rested on the Doctrine of Discovery, with RBG stating that the US would not have a legal basis for its territorial claims without it.
    
    We are all living on land stolen under the decree of a fucking religious leader who said that genocide is OK because they weren’t going to be saved anyway. The Spanish were disgusting in a totally different way, choosing to interpret the decree as a license to rape as much as possible, steal children, and mix white blood with savage blood in an effort to bring the offspring of the savages closer to God.
    
    But you’ll never learn that in grade K - 12. You’ll never learn that a Thanksgiving was a victory prayer that the white settlers held after successfully destroying a village of natives, killing everyone there or running them off. They were giving thanks to God for their victory. Again, not something we’re gonna teach kids.
    
    Everything from the holidays we celebrate and don’t celebrate to the speeches given on those dates to the statues, paintings, poems, museum displays, historical markers on the highway.
    
    It’s all a fucking narrative to cover for the absolutely brutal country we live in and have always lived in. The fascism didn’t start with the Nazis and we’re not just emulating them for some abberation in time.
    
    This is who we are as settlers. This is our inheritance. This is what was done in our names, when our forefathers said “we need to make a better life for our grandchildren and their grandchildren and their grandchildren”. This is America. This is Canada. This what Europe unleashed on the world.
    
    And this is what we have to clean up, arrest, and heal.
    
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- FluorideMind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Jesus h, tldr
  
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  - Broadfern@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    TL;DR: Nazis copied USA, USA is evolving its own Nazism that’s always been here.
    
    “Don’t worry, it’s not new. Just getting worse ✨”
    
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zeca@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
People dont know what to do about it. Its as simple as that. They dont see any available action that they see any chance of being fruitful… plus they are too busy thinking about how theyre going to pay their next bills.

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- FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Yes but, if you live in Canada, it is very easy to NOT GO to the Untied States. One of my complaints is people in my country continuing to walk into the burning states as if they see nothing wrong or dangerous about it
  
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  - zeca@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Ah i see. Well i know im not going to the us anytime soon either. Simply having my phone searched and messed with at the border is already a big turn off. I have family members there that are still a valid reason to visit, but i agree that going to something like disneyland would be support for this degenerate state.
    
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  - pahlimur@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    People not coming to the US is already having an effect. Hotel occupancy is starting to drop off and prices are starting to drop.
    
    I know it’s anecdotal, but my Canadian coworkers all canceled their trips to the US. They all switched to Europe or Mexico.
    
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TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Because life is perfectly safe.

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- FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I live in Canada. And you wouldn’t be so insistent you were safe if you were a Latino person living in the Untied States
  
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  - TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    every latino person i know is highly educated and naturalized, so no they are not worried. they also live in very expensive areas where there is no ICE and they dont’ give rats ass about illegal immigrants being deported. they are for it.
    
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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
closer to becoming RUSSIA actually than nazi germany.

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- Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Here is the rabid Russophobe with the same nazi ideology anxious to go to the eastern front again.
  In case any of you are still deluded by the orange Russian asset BS:
  The US has forever been an enemy of Russia and Trum has supported, paid and facilitated the war againsqt them without interruption for 2 terms.
  We know which side the fascist are.
  
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  - MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Stay in your Russian basement, dumbass.
    
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  - BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Too delusional to even reply to.
    
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Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Those who support it, didn’t think that’s the case. They have been brainwashed to think this is all great stuff. I think a lot of them are psychopaths, having no empathy for anyone suffering. They simply don’t believe it until it happens to them and then they are outraged. It’s nuts.

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- psycotica0@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I don’t think it’s that they’re all psychopaths, or lack empathy. I think what it really is is faith, in a sense. They’ve been told bad things happen for a reason, that actions have consequences, and thus they have faith that the bad things happen to bad people who deserve it, because the world is a just place.
  
  But when things happen to them, or people close to them, then they know that it’s not justified. They don’t know about all those other folks, but they know their mom didn’t do any bad stuff, and they know they don’t deserve this outcome. So only when it happens to them do they go “this is bullshit” and then get angry that the system and/or universe gave them the wrong result.
  
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  - Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That’s kind of funny because you literally described a person that lacks empathy. If they had empathy they wouldn’t have to wait for it to happen to them.
    
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Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
The president doesn’t have the political capital or enough popular support to take America to war with Canada or the Danes for Greenland.

He can bluster, bitch, and whine but he’s pretty impotent.

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- 4am@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I’m willing to bet he’d try for Greenland. He’s certainly trying to get Venezuela to make the first move.
  
  He fucking sucks I wish there was actually an easy way out of this
  
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- lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  He will do it after a year of bombing Venezuela. He’s a big fan of hitler, so he will likely also start an unwinnable multi front war.
  
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  - FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Maybe he’ll also die like Hitler
    
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- BurgerBaron@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Living in Alberta, I think the plan is to take Alberta if their Republican backed/funded separatist plans work out with our traitor MAGA premier. I’m not too worried, even though they just ignored the Forever Canada petition. Except in the scenario of low progressive voter turnout if they manage to get the signatures for the separatist one.
  
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Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
The world has always been on fire.

You should really study history for context.

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- Zachariah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
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  - wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    “Made in Britain”
    
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- cheesybuddha@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  "The story of the human race is war. Except for brief and precarious interludes there has never been peace in the world…” - Winston Churchill
  
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  - Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    its mostly used as distraction from internal problems, wars, war on drugs, culture wars distraction from population issues, HCOL, healthcare, economy, enviromental problems , JOB PROSPECTS.
    
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brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
MAGA isn’t as competent as Nazi Germany though. That was a enonomically devestated country that voted in a dictator to fix things.

This is more like the fall of Rome or the Soviet Union: a country at the apex of power and efficacy, finally buckling under the weight of its decedance and delusions.

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- FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  Nazis were efficient; that was literally the point.
  
  No, they weren’t particularly efficient. In many cases they were bumbling idiots that got really, really lucky - just like the current US administration.
  
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  - snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yeah there were several make or break moments for the Nazis that could have easily halted the whole thing but they just kept being lucky.
    
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- RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  East Germany or the Soviet Union collapse makes the better comparison. Similar mass delusions among the public that all the debt, wars and breakdown in society is normal or will get better on it’s own. Loss of the rule of law and truth more broadly. Like after the Soviet collapse, you have oligarchs coming in to take over parts of the system and privatize them. This effect creates the authoritarian system that lead to Putin and those around him. The U.S. has its Gorbachev. Even in Soviet society they had a concept called Vranyo, which translated to the fact that the population largely knew the Government was always lying and corrupt, and the Govt knew the population knew they were all lying and corrupt, and anyone who tried to Plato’s Cave it was always shut down across the board from both sides. The mass delusions lasted until the collapse. And even after for many.
  
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  - brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Ugh, that is very compelling.
    
    Add in a bit more cyberpunk, with how the country uses tech these days.
    
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Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Canada isn’t much better.

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- braydan@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  glad i can block trolls. bye
  
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raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
You are not exaggerating, except that what you point out is not certain to happen, and way too many people think it’s a great strategy to stick their head in the sand, thereby making it more likely to end up catastrophic.

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- WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It’s already hopeless when you look at the reactionary people that think they are fighting it.
  
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Cruxifux@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
My uncle told me that canada is looking to expand its militia by 300k. If thats true I need to look into signing up. I like guns, my countries sovereignty, and I loathe American governments, ideology, and culture. I will absolutely die preventing my country from Being annexed or invaded or whatever other stupid thing Trump and the other drooling masses of the USA want to do.

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- Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Just while you're doing all that, don't stop paying attention to your own country's path. Regardless of what direction the US takes, other countries can also fall victim to the same things we did.
  
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- n0respect@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  American here … can I join?
  
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  - Cruxifux@feddit.nl ⁨44⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    If america ever tries to invade canada i would EXPECT you to revolt. I know this is setting me up for disappointment but still.
    
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- ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  If it helps, many Americans like guns, your country’s sovereignty, and loathe our current government. I’m really hoping we can start getting our shit together in 2026.
  
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  - Cruxifux@feddit.nl ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yeah well I don’t really see you guys doing anything about it and I have little faith that you ever will.
    
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cheesybuddha@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Grocery prices have gone up like 120% in the last 5 years. The cost of some items has doubled in the last year. There are items that I can’t order online because Canada refuses to ship to the US (I live closer to Canada than to most other states).

We are well and truly fucked my friends. Be prepared for things to keep getting worse. We will likely see things we haven’t seen since the Great Depression. Go watch “The Grapes of Wrath” and let old Tom Joad show you how it’s gonna be.

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- krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I heard they got some internet down californeee way
  
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  - cheesybuddha@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    Well sure, there might be a little internet, but how much you think they got out there? With everyone trying to use it at once, it’s gonna go real slow like.
    
    It blows my mind how much they cribbed from Grapes of Wrath for that episode. You can literally see John Carradine and Henry Fonda’s characters right there hanging out with Randy, same spots they were in in the film
    
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HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
While I don’t see us as nazi germany yet I do see us pretty far along. Even when stopped it just leads to other tactics. They went after the beuracy and with a bit of push back they are using the sychophants they have gotten into military and police entities to attack both internall and externally. There is a real question if there will be masked paramilitary “making it safe” at the next election. Absolutely everyone should be taking every opportunity to be in the streets.

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SuperEars@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Ditto

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